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| 02:31.11 | simonrvn | argile: that's probably gdm beeping |
| 02:31.32 | simonrvn | argile: alt-f7 then ctrl-alt-backspace |
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| 16:44.36 | Gnuman | OK, the laptop is connected, so I know there is signal out there. . . |
| 16:44.51 | Gnuman | but the bcm43xx does not seem to see it. . . |
| 16:45.34 | Gnuman | I get no link at all, and the /etc/network/interfaces files are the same |
| 16:49.07 | Gnuman | anyone here know these cards? |
| 16:57.44 | Bor_Ed | I have bcm43xx in use, wintel hardware though on that box |
| 16:58.00 | Gnuman | sigh is anyone here even at thier computers? |
| 16:58.05 | Bor_Ed | no |
| 16:58.22 | Gnuman | Bor_Ed: what kernel? |
| 16:58.37 | Bor_Ed | 2.6.20 |
| 16:58.48 | Gnuman | and do you have it as modules of built in? |
| 16:58.53 | Bor_Ed | module |
| 16:59.20 | Gnuman | Hmmm. . . |
| 16:59.43 | Gnuman | I tried with 6.22.7, built in. |
| 17:00.05 | Bor_Ed | you're sure you have a working firmware for the chip? |
| 17:00.34 | Gnuman | can you dcc me a copy? |
| 17:00.49 | Bor_Ed | sure |
| 17:00.55 | Gnuman | I found mine on the net, but I had to look several places to get it. |
| 17:01.12 | Gnuman | the place in teh .deb is 404 |
| 17:01.36 | Bor_Ed | pick up |
| 17:01.55 | Gnuman | try again, I didn't even see it |
| 17:02.24 | Bor_Ed | you're identified to nickserv? |
| 17:02.34 | Gnuman | Ummm, no |
| 17:02.41 | Bor_Ed | you need to be for dcc |
| 17:02.52 | Gnuman | Hmmm |
| 17:03.11 | Gnuman | email? |
| 17:03.24 | Gnuman | have a place I could grab it? |
| 17:03.46 | Bor_Ed | I can drop it to my server |
| 17:04.43 | Bor_Ed | http://fi.homelinux.net should work |
| 17:08.09 | Gnuman | 0 bytes. . . |
| 17:09.11 | Bor_Ed | not really suprising... still haven't got the server all way up from hardware update |
| 17:10.26 | Gnuman | nod |
| 17:10.43 | Gnuman | should I /msg uyou my email? |
| 17:10.50 | Bor_Ed | sure thingy |
| 17:10.59 | Gnuman | actually, it is the same as my nick here. . . |
| 17:11.04 | Gnuman | only atgmail |
| 17:12.18 | Bor_Ed | delivered |
| 17:12.29 | Gnuman | cool. . . |
| 17:12.46 | Gnuman | I'll cut a new firmware and see if that helps. . . |
| 17:14.59 | Gnuman | when gmail ever gets the package. . . |
| 17:15.28 | Bor_Ed | <gnuman@gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[66.249.93.27] said: 552 5.7.0 Illegal Attachment e23si8453453ugd (in reply to end of DATA command) |
| 17:15.37 | Bor_Ed | I need to rename the extension apparently |
| 17:16.55 | Bor_Ed | it's got extension .tgz but rename that to .sys |
| 17:17.36 | Bor_Ed | illegal attach again |
| 17:17.57 | Gnuman | hmmmm. . . |
| 17:18.24 | Gnuman | do you have im? |
| 17:18.27 | Gnuman | IM |
| 17:19.34 | Bor_Ed | .png seems to go through |
| 17:20.14 | Bor_Ed | yup, didn't barf |
| 17:23.31 | Gnuman | ~/Desktop# bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware bcmwl5.sys ,= Right? |
| 17:23.40 | Gnuman | err |
| 17:23.49 | Gnuman | ~/Desktop# bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware bcmwl5.sys <= Right? |
| 17:23.56 | Bor_Ed | I'd guess so |
| 17:24.03 | Bor_Ed | been a while since I installed :) |
| 17:25.22 | Gnuman | still no joy. . . |
| 17:26.42 | Bor_Ed | buggr that |
| 17:27.11 | Gnuman | brb |
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| 17:32.57 | Gnuman | Bor_Ed: still no joy |
| 17:33.45 | Bor_Ed | works for me(tm) |
| 17:33.58 | Gnuman | heh |
| 17:33.59 | Bor_Ed | your hardware idetifies as dell wireless yadayada or something else? |
| 17:34.21 | Gnuman | with iwconfig? |
| 17:34.25 | Bor_Ed | lspci |
| 17:35.34 | Gnuman | 0001:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) |
| 17:35.35 | Gnuman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.35 | Gnuman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.35 | Gnuman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.36 | Gnuman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.02 | Bor_Ed | aww, the AE is that old chip... no wonder the file didn't work |
| 17:36.29 | Gnuman | do you know where a file that will work resides? |
| 17:36.53 | Bor_Ed | if I'd know, would've given the link at the start |
| 17:37.11 | Gnuman | Hey, better late. . . |
| 17:37.28 | Gnuman | the one I found online was the same one you sent me BTW |
| 17:37.45 | Gnuman | I recognised it |
| 17:37.55 | Bor_Ed | hmm, could be... mine though is copied from the suxpee side on the box |
| 17:38.54 | Gnuman | suxpee. . . Now that is a name that brings images. . . |
| 17:39.13 | Bor_Ed | straight from the redmond... |
| 17:39.36 | Gnuman | so do you have a good link for this chipset? |
| 17:39.55 | Bor_Ed | not better than the firmware I gave |
| 17:44.01 | Gnuman | do you have a place to look for firmware for the 4306/ |
| 17:44.04 | Gnuman | ? |
| 17:44.14 | Bor_Ed | not really... google might know |
| 17:54.53 | Gnuman | Been looking. . . |
| 17:55.11 | Gnuman | got one from Apple's install. . . |
| 17:55.15 | Gnuman | still no go |
| 17:55.31 | Bor_Ed | sounds like there's something really wrong with the setup |
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| 18:18.06 | Gnuman | Bor_Ed: what was the last thing I said (that was seen here) |
| 18:19.58 | Bor_Ed | [20:55] < Gnuman> | still no go |
| 18:22.41 | Gnuman | . |
| 18:22.41 | Gnuman | <Gnuman> still no go |
| 18:22.41 | Gnuman | <Bor_Ed> sounds like there's something really wrong with the setup |
| 18:22.42 | Gnuman | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.42 | Gnuman | <Gnuman> Bor_Ed: you mean with teh kernel config? |
| 18:22.43 | Gnuman | <Gnuman> I can rebuild that if you wanna walk me through it. . . |
| 18:22.44 | Gnuman | <Gnuman> or I can tell you what I selected (that relates, anyway) |
| 18:22.46 | Gnuman | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.56 | Gnuman | that is where I dropped out. . . |
| 18:26.30 | Gnuman | I have about a half hour to live, tehn I disappear to reboot. . . |
| 18:26.37 | Gnuman | rebuilding as modules |
| 18:26.40 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I just used the stock kernel shipped with this install, didn't have to do a thing to get the driver working |
| 18:27.08 | Gnuman | that did not work for me either. . |
| 18:27.25 | Bor_Ed | this is ubuntu kernel... |
| 18:27.27 | Gnuman | I may have to go to sid. . . |
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| 19:15.53 | Gnuman | OK, let's see what a fresh kernel gives us. . . |
| 19:18.50 | Gnuman | can I paste my dmesg output (cut for relevance, only the BCM stuff will be posted) to see if there is any clue there? |
| 19:19.43 | Gnuman | it seems the driver turns off the radio, just before SoftMAC tries to associate. . . |
| 19:20.45 | Bor_Ed | paste to some of the nets pastebins rather than to here |
| 19:20.56 | Bor_Ed | www.mandrakehelp.com has one for example |
| 19:25.15 | Gnuman | unable to connect to database. . . |
| 19:25.22 | Gnuman | sigh |
| 19:26.01 | Bor_Ed | got to give some feedback to the site admin |
| 19:28.37 | Gnuman | is there annother? |
| 19:29.12 | Gnuman | or can I email you (reply to the mail you sent me) with a txt file of the relevant parts? |
| 19:30.28 | Bor_Ed | pastebin.ca should do too |
| 19:31.01 | Bor_Ed | this chan has sleeping ppl which might be able to help when seeing the prob, that's why I prefer paste services instead of private ones |
| 19:35.44 | Gnuman | http://pastebin.ca/718880 |
| 19:35.59 | Gnuman | that one worked. . . <G> |
| 19:37.03 | Bor_Ed | radio goes down for setting up the params |
| 19:38.17 | Gnuman | but does not go back up untill after softmac bombs |
| 19:38.56 | Gnuman | give me a command that will generate useful info then, and I'll get teh output from it |
| 19:39.10 | Bor_Ed | true... try modprobing the driver by hand for a starter |
| 19:41.48 | Gnuman | OK, it is up to 71887 now |
| 19:42.04 | Gnuman | ummm 718887 |
| 19:42.37 | Gnuman | http://pastebin.ca/718887 |
| 19:42.51 | Gnuman | module is already loaded. |
| 19:43.37 | Bor_Ed | ieee80211_crypt_tkip 12032 3 |
| 19:43.37 | Bor_Ed | ieee80211softmac 31360 1 bcm43xx |
| 19:43.37 | Bor_Ed | ieee80211 34760 2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac |
| 19:43.37 | Bor_Ed | ieee80211_crypt 7040 2 ieee80211_crypt_tkip,ieee80211 |
| 19:43.48 | Bor_Ed | I do'nt tend to have many loaded either |
| 19:43.59 | Bor_Ed | 119 lines on lsmod :o |
| 19:45.09 | simonrvn | 'only' :P |
| 19:45.10 | Gnuman | I have 6 (7 if you are counting teh labels) |
| 19:45.29 | Gnuman | heya simonrvn |
| 19:45.34 | simonrvn | hi folks |
| 19:46.02 | Gnuman | I remember your name from when I was on here a lot before. . . |
| 19:46.11 | simonrvn | yup |
| 19:46.15 | Gnuman | (years ago) |
| 19:46.16 | simonrvn | same here |
| 19:46.21 | simonrvn | heh |
| 19:46.26 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: ubuntu... everything outside the kernel (which isn't really bad thing imo) |
| 19:46.38 | Gnuman | any experience with the BCM43xx? |
| 19:46.39 | simonrvn | distro kernel |
| 19:46.45 | simonrvn | none at all Gnuman |
| 19:46.47 | Bor_Ed | yup, too lazy nowadays |
| 19:47.38 | simonrvn | i still build mine out of necessity. distro kernel wouldn't boot the machine properly |
| 19:47.52 | simonrvn | ...and, leave out certain things |
| 19:48.24 | Gnuman | I build mine because I need a solid kernel. . . |
| 19:48.49 | Gnuman | trying to make everyone happy only makes everyone frustrated. |
| 19:49.07 | Gnuman | so I build mine to meke me happy |
| 19:49.36 | Gnuman | one of these days, I should really learn how to type |
| 19:49.37 | simonrvn | they do a decent job most of the time, but eh, when it won't boot and you need it soon... ;). for sure |
| 19:49.57 | simonrvn | (wrt 'make me happy', not 'learn how to type' hehe) |
| 19:50.00 | Bor_Ed | I haven't had a need to build own kernel in around 5-6 years... the distro kernels just have worked on both deb and on ubu |
| 19:50.09 | Gnuman | that is my situation. I need the BCM to work soon. . . |
| 19:50.29 | Gnuman | I'm using my old laptop as a router, and I already have it sold. . . |
| 19:50.38 | Bor_Ed | get sid kernel and try with that |
| 19:51.03 | Gnuman | got a new box (G4 Mini 1.42Ghz). . . |
| 19:51.13 | Gnuman | so upgrade to sid? |
| 19:51.27 | simonrvn | g4 mini? nice |
| 19:51.35 | Bor_Ed | naa, just get the sid kernel .deb and it should install to etch nicely |
| 19:51.39 | Gnuman | I did notice that there was a version problem in wireless tools |
| 19:51.49 | simonrvn | now that would be a nice server, even better if a dual proc was available |
| 19:52.09 | Gnuman | it is my desktop. . . |
| 19:52.16 | Gnuman | I'm in a 10m caravan |
| 19:52.18 | simonrvn | cool |
| 19:53.32 | Gnuman | Articulate arm keyboard tray, the mini is strapped to the bottom of the cabinet where my desk is going to be, and the monitor is on an undercabinet mount beneath the cabinet above |
| 19:54.31 | simonrvn | nice. i saw you talk about in scrollback, er, last week? neat stuff |
| 19:54.53 | Gnuman | http://picasaweb.google.com/gnuman/ComputerStation/photo#5112042281157326882 |
| 19:55.36 | Gnuman | when you live in 2mx2mx10m, everything is built in. . . |
| 19:55.56 | Gnuman | I actually live in just under that |
| 19:56.11 | Gnuman | wide and tall are kust under 2m |
| 19:56.49 | Gnuman | err, just |
| 19:56.58 | simonrvn | cool, man. hehe "assitant" :). our cat does that sort of thing too. |
| 19:57.06 | simonrvn | assistant* |
| 19:57.14 | Gnuman | damn, and i have no excuse now that I have diitched the laptop keyboard. . . |
| 19:57.50 | Gnuman | Have you seen the "printer Problems" movie? |
| 19:58.17 | simonrvn | no |
| 19:59.08 | Gnuman | "when I try to print, teh paper comes out shreaded, crumpled, sometimes wet and smeared. . ." |
| 19:59.30 | Gnuman | send me an email, I'll reply with it. . . |
| 20:00.29 | simonrvn | heh |
| 20:04.41 | Gnuman | you will love it |
| 20:06.28 | Gnuman | do you have the address from above? |
| 20:07.21 | Gnuman | <my username here> at gmail dot com |
| 20:07.56 | Gnuman | perhaps that should be "the username I have in here" |
| 20:10.05 | simonrvn | mine's simon dot raven ... btw, that's for everyone |
| 20:10.40 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed, you, chrisa, pahartik, etc. |
| 20:13.25 | simonrvn | yup, but nuit.ca is dead now ;) |
| 20:13.34 | Bor_Ed | gah |
| 20:13.58 | Gnuman | http://pastebin.ca/718935 |
| 20:14.28 | Bor_Ed | mine's <nick> at wippies dot se nowadays... free mail addy, hella lot of web disk space and free roaming on the wlans of the service, similar to fon |
| 20:14.37 | Gnuman | simonrvn: is that at gmail? |
| 20:15.17 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 20:15.36 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: with the _ ? |
| 20:15.43 | Bor_Ed | with the _ |
| 20:15.48 | simonrvn | 'k |
| 20:16.17 | Bor_Ed | found finally a service that handles underscores too |
| 20:16.39 | simonrvn | :) |
| 20:16.57 | Bor_Ed | oh, and if you happen to drop by to this area and have same providers free mail addy, you can use my AP for free :) |
| 20:17.04 | simonrvn | technically (IIRC anyway) _ is supposed to be, at least in user name |
| 20:17.12 | simonrvn | ooh |
| 20:17.36 | Bor_Ed | I've got fon and wippies APs running here nowadays... |
| 20:20.36 | Gnuman | Bor_Ed: I sent to you at the location that you sent to me from |
| 20:21.04 | Gnuman | elisanet.fi |
| 20:21.17 | Bor_Ed | that's my isp addy |
| 20:21.32 | Gnuman | Hope not a problem? |
| 20:21.57 | Gnuman | Oh, and check your mails |
| 20:22.00 | Bor_Ed | naa, just not too anxious on media attaches |
| 20:22.18 | Gnuman | smallish file |
| 20:23.07 | Gnuman | Oh, 1.9Mb |
| 20:23.19 | Gnuman | I guess not so smallish. . . |
| 20:23.21 | Gnuman | sorry |
| 20:24.53 | Gnuman | my latest pastebin shows the kernel .config, as well as the modules list |
| 20:26.15 | Gnuman | Oh, and aside from the WiFi, do either of you know how to get teh OpenGl up to speed? |
| 20:26.41 | Bor_Ed | it has ati R280 chip? |
| 20:26.55 | Gnuman | yes |
| 20:27.04 | Gnuman | 32Mb |
| 20:27.05 | Bor_Ed | it's slow |
| 20:27.15 | Bor_Ed | you can increase agp speed but that's about it |
| 20:27.29 | Gnuman | not 1fps in FlightGear slow, I know that much! |
| 20:27.51 | Gnuman | that is almost as bad as the clamshell iBook!! |
| 20:28.09 | Bor_Ed | here radeon 9200 does around 14fps on fgfs with p3/866 |
| 20:28.13 | Gnuman | it is acting like the acceleration is not working at all |
| 20:28.29 | simonrvn | glxinfo | grep direct |
| 20:28.44 | Gnuman | and I'm using a G4 at 1.42Ghz |
| 20:31.15 | Gnuman | when I had FG running, it returned Direct Rendering Yes |
| 20:31.31 | Gnuman | but this install seems to be buggered. . . |
| 20:31.47 | Bor_Ed | just some bad kernel options on the build |
| 20:32.08 | Bor_Ed | stock kernels work nowadays 99.9% of the time as I said already earlier |
| 20:32.48 | Gnuman | OK, bbias. . . |
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| 20:37.48 | Gnuman | Nope. Still no. . . |
| 20:41.21 | Gnuman | the modules seem to be losded. . . |
| 20:42.40 | Gnuman | sanjay@Felicity:~$ uname -a |
| 20:42.40 | Gnuman | Linux Felicity 2.6.18-5-powerpc #1 Wed Sep 26 17:26:40 UTC 2007 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 20:43.53 | Gnuman | uninorth_agp 10888 1 |
| 20:43.54 | Gnuman | agpgart 37212 2 drm,uninorth_agp |
| 20:44.16 | Gnuman | radeon 129448 1 |
| 20:44.16 | Gnuman | drm 80600 2 radeon |
| 20:44.25 | Gnuman | all there, I think. . . |
| 20:46.45 | Gnuman | dri and glx modules are loaded. . . |
| 20:46.52 | Gnuman | using the ati driver. . . |
| 20:47.00 | Gnuman | perhaps go to the radeon? |
| 20:50.49 | Gnuman | am I still connected? |
| 20:54.41 | simonrvn | yes |
| 20:55.55 | Gnuman | with how flakey my networking has been, I was not al that sure. . . |
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| 21:08.42 | ada | hi all |
| 21:10.11 | Gnuman | heya ada . . .bye ada. . . |
| 21:10.24 | Gnuman | I'm gonna go for a while. . . |
| 21:13.01 | ada | :) |
| 21:13.40 | simonrvn | hi ada |
| 21:15.01 | ada | hi simonrvn |
| 21:17.40 | ada | to install e17 ? does it exist any .deb repository ? |
| 21:17.45 | ada | or should i must use cvs way |
| 21:18.04 | simonrvn | there's some .debs around... dunno how recent they are |
| 21:19.02 | ada | okok |
| 21:19.31 | ada | and i found some quite old docs on howto install deb on powerbook g4 12"... do you know any other good doc, faq, tips... |
| 21:20.12 | simonrvn | not really :/ install guide? :) |
| 21:21.34 | ada | yep... |
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