| 00:04.53 | Deformative | Anyone around? The isntaller dies when I want manual partition management |
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| 04:26.35 | Gnuman | Anyone here know what might be happening with the sound on a Mini? |
| 04:28.08 | Gnuman | Symptoms: I get a volume control for PCS (dsp?), none of my music players work, flightgear dies with alut errors (sound device busy or does not exist). . . |
| 04:28.37 | Gnuman | this is with the stock kernel and with a hand rolled one.\ |
| 04:31.10 | Gnuman | scanning dmesg now for clues. . . |
| 04:33.57 | Gnuman | OK, I found the sound init. . . gives ALSA version. . . |
| 04:34.31 | Gnuman | found layout 58, using GPIOs, can use this codec. . . |
| 04:34.49 | Gnuman | ALSA device list: 0:soundBylayout |
| 04:35.18 | Gnuman | can't see any errors in that. . . |
| 05:01.46 | Gnuman | hmmm, cat /dev/sndstat shows the audio device to be 0: (DUPLEX) |
| 05:02.00 | Gnuman | but aumix shows no audio devices. . . |
| 05:02.21 | Gnuman | any ideas out there yet? |
| 05:02.33 | Gnuman | worse, am I alone in here? |
| 07:01.49 | simonrvn | nope |
| 07:02.04 | Gnuman | heya simonrvn !! |
| 07:02.10 | simonrvn | hey dude |
| 07:02.27 | Gnuman | so, looking at scrollback. . . Any Ideas? |
| 07:02.32 | simonrvn | running udev on it? |
| 07:02.42 | Gnuman | udev? |
| 07:02.51 | Gnuman | not that I know of |
| 07:02.58 | simonrvn | look at mount, do you have a /dev/.static/dev there? |
| 07:03.56 | Gnuman | udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) |
| 07:03.58 | simonrvn | lsmod gives what, see the usual snd_powermac there? that's a codec FYI, has several drivers in it |
| 07:04.03 | simonrvn | yeh ok |
| 07:04.30 | simonrvn | udev didn't see it, try udevtrigger as root/with sudo, see what happens |
| 07:04.46 | Gnuman | I'mnot using snd_powermac |
| 07:04.51 | simonrvn | well, wait, try lsmod first ;) |
| 07:05.00 | simonrvn | not? another sound card? |
| 07:05.18 | Gnuman | Tonnie chip |
| 07:05.28 | simonrvn | eh? |
| 07:05.28 | Gnuman | this is a mini |
| 07:05.42 | Gnuman | sound by layout |
| 07:05.43 | simonrvn | they don't use powermac? i thought they did |
| 07:06.32 | simonrvn | well, once udev sees the module get loaded, it should create the /dev/snd/* entries |
| 07:06.45 | simonrvn | just gotta figure out what to load now |
| 07:06.57 | Gnuman | Oh, I have those |
| 07:07.22 | Gnuman | i had those all along |
| 07:07.26 | simonrvn | ok |
| 07:08.08 | simonrvn | try that udevtrigger thing |
| 07:08.41 | Gnuman | SND_AOA |
| 07:08.58 | Gnuman | they are built in in this hand rolled kernel; |
| 07:10.45 | simonrvn | ah. it's better to have them modular (for problems like this ;) |
| 07:10.54 | Gnuman | Felicity:/usr/src/linux-2.6.23.12# udevtrigger |
| 07:10.54 | Gnuman | Felicity:/usr/src/linux-2.6.23.12# aumix |
| 07:10.55 | Gnuman | aumix: no device found |
| 07:10.55 | Gnuman | Felicity:/usr/src/linux-2.6.23.12# |
| 07:10.56 | simonrvn | oh yeh, i remember now (snd_aoa) |
| 07:11.27 | Gnuman | did not work any better/different with the modular kernel |
| 07:11.46 | Gnuman | in Gnome: |
| 07:11.47 | simonrvn | weird |
| 07:12.08 | Gnuman | I get teh volume control, and it has a slider that goes up and down. . . |
| 07:12.17 | Gnuman | that much works |
| 07:13.25 | Gnuman | but I get no sound. . . |
| 07:13.43 | simonrvn | speakers/whatever turned up? :P (j/k) |
| 07:14.36 | Gnuman | yup. |
| 07:17.36 | simonrvn | eh, imma outta ideas... i'm googling right now ("mac mini sound problems linux") |
| 07:18.15 | simonrvn | there's a few geek stuff for multimedia on the mini, so you're in good company |
| 07:18.50 | Gnuman | This is new also. . . |
| 07:19.05 | Gnuman | it was working before, but I was running sid. . . |
| 07:19.16 | Gnuman | and an update killed my X. . . |
| 07:19.41 | Gnuman | and I could not get to a terminal screen |
| 07:20.02 | Gnuman | so I had to wipe and reinstall. . . running etch now |
| 07:20.25 | simonrvn | i'd do lenny on that thing, esp. being a desktop (i'm assuming it is) |
| 07:20.28 | Gnuman | bleeding edge indeed. . . |
| 07:20.32 | simonrvn | heh |
| 07:20.36 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 07:20.49 | Gnuman | it's a mini. . . |
| 07:20.54 | simonrvn | i have a couple of bug reports to file still hehe |
| 07:21.06 | Gnuman | halfway between a desktop and a laptop |
| 07:21.22 | simonrvn | mm, i meant in the sense of "workstation" |
| 07:21.50 | Gnuman | uses a laptop combo drive (slot load), a laptop HDD, Desktop RAM, has an AirPort. . . |
| 07:22.04 | Gnuman | it is my only computer. . . |
| 07:22.12 | Gnuman | I gave up my clamshell |
| 07:22.28 | Gnuman | Heh, even got a hundred $ out of that thing |
| 07:22.40 | simonrvn | at least it's more recent than my beige g3 ;). heh |
| 07:22.42 | Gnuman | so I'm not complaining. . . |
| 07:22.52 | simonrvn | it's a nice little box for sure |
| 07:23.10 | Gnuman | well my clamshell was a G3 @ 366Mhz |
| 07:23.17 | simonrvn | so you doing ok in that trailer i guess, eh? |
| 07:23.30 | Gnuman | this is a G4 at 1.42Ghz. . . |
| 07:23.35 | simonrvn | nice |
| 07:23.44 | Gnuman | Yeah, real nice. . . |
| 07:23.56 | Gnuman | say, are you in a place that can get dcc? |
| 07:24.19 | simonrvn | i think my iptables is configure for it yeh |
| 07:24.24 | simonrvn | *d |
| 07:25.07 | simonrvn | (conntrack_irc, etc.) |
| 07:25.16 | Gnuman | Better yet, a link. . . |
| 07:25.20 | Gnuman | http://picasaweb.google.com/gnuman/ComputerStation |
| 07:25.36 | Gnuman | this is how I set up the mini. . . |
| 07:26.08 | Gnuman | You will also see my "Assistant" in some of those shots. . . |
| 07:26.21 | Gnuman | her name is Sasha |
| 07:27.01 | simonrvn | wow neat |
| 07:27.08 | Gnuman | Yeah. . . |
| 07:27.09 | simonrvn | yeh, noticed ;). |
| 07:27.22 | Gnuman | I still have a few small bugs to iron out. . . |
| 07:27.52 | simonrvn | like the sound :P |
| 07:27.53 | Gnuman | I need to move the monitor about 5" aft |
| 07:28.35 | simonrvn | towards us in that last pic? |
| 07:28.51 | Gnuman | I tried using the speakers in the monitor, but they are too small to do any good, and not well amplified. . . |
| 07:29.01 | Gnuman | other way |
| 07:29.04 | simonrvn | ok |
| 07:30.36 | Gnuman | I have to turn the keyboard tray to the side and swivel the monitor aft to use the chair, else I'm looking at the left edge of the screen unless I crane my neck hard right |
| 07:31.44 | Gnuman | see the base that the monitor hangs from? |
| 07:32.02 | Gnuman | that is right up against an outlet on the other side. |
| 07:32.26 | Gnuman | if I put the monitor on the far side of that outlet, everything fits. . . |
| 07:33.26 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 07:34.01 | simonrvn | yeh, 100_0658 shows it well |
| 07:34.03 | Gnuman | Well, the monitor hits the dome light on the desk if I swivel it aft, but everything else is good |
| 07:36.02 | simonrvn | 638 shows a debin install going on =) hehe |
| 07:36.06 | simonrvn | debian* |
| 07:36.07 | Gnuman | which one is that? |
| 07:36.25 | Gnuman | well of *course8 it does. . . |
| 07:36.35 | simonrvn | hehe :) |
| 07:36.43 | Gnuman | what do you think I would put on it? XP? |
| 07:37.31 | simonrvn | heh |
| 07:38.42 | Gnuman | you think runing a modular kernel will fix this? |
| 07:39.07 | Gnuman | let me reboot into the install kernel |
| 07:39.11 | Gnuman | brb |
| 07:39.12 | simonrvn | makes it easier to reload the sound drivers. built-in you have to reboot :/ |
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| 07:46.07 | Gnuman | Felicity:/home/sanjay# udevtrigger |
| 07:46.07 | Gnuman | Felicity:/home/sanjay# aumix |
| 07:46.07 | Gnuman | aumix: no device found |
| 07:46.08 | Gnuman | Felicity:/home/sanjay# |
| 07:46.13 | Gnuman | still no go |
| 07:47.24 | simonrvn | damn |
| 07:48.21 | Gnuman | banshee takes a long time to init audio. . . |
| 07:48.28 | Gnuman | I thionk it fails on that |
| 07:49.52 | simonrvn | dunno, man :/ |
| 07:50.00 | Gnuman | actually, it seems to be hanging on that.. . |
| 07:50.30 | simonrvn | old thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12748.html |
| 07:50.36 | Gnuman | I tested the sound card while I was rebooting 9went into Tiger and played a bit of audio there) . . . |
| 07:50.42 | Gnuman | the hardware works. . . |
| 07:52.35 | simonrvn | so it's the old "issues with the linux drivers" again |
| 07:53.05 | Gnuman | well it was working before! |
| 07:53.08 | simonrvn | it's supposedly fixed starting from 2.6.12-XX so 2.6.18 it's already there |
| 07:53.11 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 07:53.30 | simonrvn | you running esd or something in gnome? try killing it |
| 07:53.39 | Gnuman | could be this is just a buggy install. . . |
| 07:53.58 | simonrvn | possible; you culd always fetch a newer kernel |
| 07:54.01 | simonrvn | co |
| 07:54.08 | Gnuman | when I installed, it only gave me "standard system" in tasksel. . . |
| 07:54.26 | Gnuman | I did that this morning. . . |
| 07:54.41 | simonrvn | ok |
| 07:54.47 | Gnuman | simonrvn: where are you again? |
| 07:54.54 | simonrvn | montreal |
| 07:54.59 | simonrvn | brb |
| 07:55.25 | Gnuman | so i think the repository was buggered at the time. . . |
| 07:56.15 | Gnuman | 2.6.23.12 is the kernel I rolled up |
| 07:59.04 | Gnuman | ya'know? I have my $backed up on a seperate disk. . . |
| 07:59.18 | Gnuman | err, my $HOME |
| 07:59.38 | Gnuman | as well as my sources.list |
| 07:59.56 | Gnuman | I may just wipe this and start over. . . |
| 08:00.03 | Gnuman | again. . . |
| 08:00.12 | simonrvn | back |
| 08:00.26 | Gnuman | anything new? |
| 08:00.36 | simonrvn | aaw. no, was making the bed |
| 08:00.59 | simonrvn | (partner, she's going to sleep soon) |
| 08:01.23 | Gnuman | Ahhh |
| 08:01.55 | Gnuman | hmmm, should probably rebackup though. . . |
| 08:02.32 | Gnuman | as I just put a bit of new data on the drive. . . |
| 08:02.53 | Gnuman | and I want to clean a few things up that I do not want |
| 08:02.54 | simonrvn | well, i'd hold off on reinstalling... sound daemons always hog the sound device, and if an app expects to go directly for it, then it'll bugger |
| 08:03.39 | Gnuman | it is hung on startyup at the moment |
| 08:03.46 | simonrvn | where at? |
| 08:03.57 | simonrvn | banshee? what is that anyway? |
| 08:04.04 | Gnuman | last I saw was initalising audio. . . |
| 08:04.16 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 08:04.17 | Gnuman | now I have a white box in the middle of my screen |
| 08:04.55 | Gnuman | so I would have to reboot anyway |
| 08:05.00 | simonrvn | ...one that's not gdm :P |
| 08:06.01 | Gnuman | no the box is from the splash screen from banshee |
| 08:06.05 | simonrvn | ok |
| 08:07.36 | Gnuman | I think this is a buggered install . . . |
| 08:07.48 | simonrvn | oh yeh, i remember using that before... had to reinstall this box, th lvm decided to die on me |
| 08:07.56 | Gnuman | ftp.us.debian.org gets marginal for ppc from time to time |
| 08:09.01 | simonrvn | yeh, it's round rboin bet. 4 machines |
| 08:09.06 | simonrvn | robin* |
| 08:09.12 | Gnuman | do you have a mirror that is solid? |
| 08:09.45 | simonrvn | i use .ca., .nl. .at. those are stable and fast and the packages are ok |
| 08:09.51 | Gnuman | Yeah, and the one I hit had a broken ppc tree |
| 08:10.03 | simonrvn | though i'm not sure which supports ppc |
| 08:10.16 | Gnuman | what are you running now? |
| 08:10.24 | simonrvn | mix of x86 machines and ppc |
| 08:10.29 | Gnuman | or do you mean lately? |
| 08:10.41 | simonrvn | my workstation is currently x86 :/ |
| 08:10.55 | simonrvn | the ppc machines perform better on i/o |
| 08:11.10 | Gnuman | have you put debian on the new intel macbooks or towers? |
| 08:11.27 | simonrvn | me? no, i can't afford anything new |
| 08:11.29 | Gnuman | that is from better hardware. . . |
| 08:12.07 | Gnuman | KK, I was just wondering if there were any real bad 'gotchas" |
| 08:12.46 | Gnuman | OK, gonna log off now |
| 08:12.46 | simonrvn | no, etch is running ok, so is sid, lenny there's a coupld of missing things, but nothing horrendous |
| 08:12.55 | simonrvn | g'night/day |
| 08:12.57 | Gnuman | will you be here tomorrow night? |
| 08:13.23 | simonrvn | i'll probably be in bed, going out for drum practice and healing circle, if they happen |
| 08:13.58 | Gnuman | nod |
| 08:13.58 | simonrvn | fri would be much more likely |
| 08:14.06 | Gnuman | during the day? |
| 08:14.23 | Gnuman | or at night? |
| 08:14.32 | simonrvn | yeh, around 12-14h EST (UTC-5) |
| 08:15.14 | Gnuman | I'm UTC-8 |
| 08:15.20 | Gnuman | PST |
| 08:15.38 | simonrvn | so it's just past midnight for you =) |
| 08:15.51 | Gnuman | right now? yeah |
| 08:16.45 | simonrvn | so around then, i'll be at the keyboard even, so just ping me |
| 08:16.46 | Gnuman | and there? 03:00? |
| 08:16.52 | simonrvn | 3:16 now |
| 08:18.08 | simonrvn | ok, bed time for me... good luck with that. take care |
| 08:18.56 | Gnuman | so you will be on 09:00 to 11:00 my time right? |
| 08:19.19 | Gnuman | Oh, and drop me a line at my gmail. . . |
| 08:19.24 | Gnuman | same user as here. . . |
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| 11:19.31 | Deformative | Anyone know why dhcp cannot configure on the netinstall? |
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| 11:39.26 | sacarde | heelo |
| 11:41.05 | Deformative | Anyone know why dhcp cannot configure on the netinstall? |
| 11:41.20 | sacarde | exist gridcomputing for powerpc ? |
| 11:41.37 | sacarde | client |
| 12:38.07 | sacarde | projects like BOINC? |
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| 20:18.18 | calamari | hi |
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| 20:38.42 | Deformative | Anyone know why dhcp cannot configure on the netinstall? |
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| 20:41.58 | simonrvn | you don't have a dhcpd listening? |
| 20:42.08 | Deformative | Sec. |
| 20:42.49 | Deformative | No DHCP client found. THis package requires pump or dhcp-client. The DHCP configuration process will be aborted. |
| 20:43.33 | simonrvn | eh? should have installed one. how are you installing? |
| 20:43.50 | Deformative | netinstall |
| 20:43.51 | Deformative | cdrom |
| 20:44.44 | simonrvn | weird. go back to where you chose installation components, might have to change debconf priority |
| 20:45.06 | simonrvn | (btw, you shouldn't have to do this...) is this the etch netinst? |
| 20:45.07 | Deformative | Uhh. |
| 20:45.11 | Deformative | This is during the installation. |
| 20:45.21 | simonrvn | yes, i know |
| 20:45.23 | Deformative | It is a netinstall, so I never get to pick the packages to install. |
| 20:45.34 | Deformative | It just tries to conmfigure the network after I pick the language and stuff. |
| 20:46.19 | DelTree | is there a dhcp server on the network ? |
| 20:46.39 | Deformative | Dhcp works on all my other computers. |
| 20:46.40 | simonrvn | you can't change debconf? scroll down in the main menu. and you still haven't answered me on it being etch netinst or not |
| 20:47.12 | Deformative | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/testing/current/powerpc/iso-cd/ |
| 20:47.18 | Deformative | That one |
| 20:47.21 | simonrvn | figures |
| 20:47.26 | Deformative | ? |
| 20:47.26 | simonrvn | use the etch one |
| 20:47.37 | Deformative | Where is that? |
| 20:47.50 | simonrvn | it's *testing*... use the stable one unless you have a *good* reason to use lenny's |
| 20:47.59 | simonrvn | stable |
| 20:48.14 | Deformative | I want testing because I need the gdc package. |
| 20:48.24 | DelTree | daily-builds... not a good idea... |
| 20:48.27 | simonrvn | @info gdc |
| 20:48.40 | DelTree | install etch and upgrade if you *really* need to... |
| 20:48.49 | ravenbird | gdc: (The D compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4.1.2-12 (sid), Packaged size: 0 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
| 20:49.16 | simonrvn | yes, what DelTree said |
| 20:49.21 | DelTree | and you probably can install just this package on an etch base... |
| 20:49.25 | simonrvn | @info gdc lenny |
| 20:49.46 | simonrvn | 32 kb package size? probably not even a binary in there |
| 20:50.00 | simonrvn | oh installed size, haha |
| 20:50.11 | Deformative | It is a gcc extension. |
| 20:50.17 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 20:50.37 | Deformative | So I can upgrade from stable to testing? |
| 20:50.50 | simonrvn | of course; /msg ravenbird etch->lenny |
| 20:51.36 | Deformative | Alright. |
| 20:51.44 | Deformative | So I need to download another iso. |
| 20:51.56 | Deformative | Sigh, putting linux on this thing is taking much longer than expected. |
| 20:52.38 | Deformative | I installed crux, but there were far too few ports, then I installed gentoo, but it compiled way too slow, then archlinux had some issues in the repository, poorly maintained. |
| 20:52.47 | Deformative | Then debian kept failinh. |
| 20:53.56 | simonrvn | well you were using testing daily-build, it's only for testing it and debugging |
| 20:54.27 | Deformative | I was using some other cd before, and it failed on partitioning. |
| 20:54.35 | Deformative | Do not remember which. |
| 20:54.42 | simonrvn | what kind of box is this? |
| 20:54.48 | Deformative | imac g3 |
| 20:55.02 | simonrvn | oh yeh, should be *no problem* using etch on that |
| 20:55.09 | simonrvn | the etch netinst |
| 20:55.20 | Deformative | url to that iso? |
| 20:55.34 | Deformative | I cannot understand this weird naming scheme. |
| 20:55.36 | simonrvn | same, but go to stable |
| 20:55.47 | simonrvn | cdimage/... |
| 20:56.26 | Deformative | http://saimei.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/4.0_r2/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-40r2-powerpc-netinst.iso |
| 20:56.28 | Deformative | That one? |
| 20:56.37 | simonrvn | that'll do |
| 20:56.58 | simonrvn | r2's the latest |
| 20:58.57 | Deformative | Alright. |
| 20:59.18 | simonrvn | enjoy |
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| 23:54.38 | suppaman | hi |
| 23:54.58 | suppaman | is there a way to change the initial (first stage?) yaboot menu? |
| 23:55.24 | suppaman | actually it asks for linux (l) macosx (x) or cdrom (c) |
| 23:55.35 | suppaman | I'd like to change this |
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| 23:55.55 | suppaman | er... rebootinh |
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| 23:59.40 | suppaman | back |