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| 14:16.37 | [wrd] | hey can someone help me with this particular problem? |
| 14:18.36 | [wrd] | i am trying to install debian on my iBook G4, first of all i tried to install it via my external firewire drive (internal broken) and all installers i tried from different distributions fail to boot up yaboot. i also tried to run it via harddrive (placing the nessessary media files on my hard drive) and try invoking yaboot per hand. |
| 14:19.00 | [wrd] | i only get a strange error message: DISK-LABEL: LOAD (noninterposed) not supported load-size=0 adler32=1 |
| 14:19.39 | DelTree | CD is really the easiest boot... |
| 14:20.31 | [wrd] | my internal drive is broken -> my external drive won't boot any install cds .. |
| 14:20.36 | [wrd] | except the tiger install dvd |
| 14:20.48 | DelTree | damn... |
| 14:21.24 | DelTree | you boot the install dvd and not a CD ? |
| 14:21.26 | [wrd] | and it seems as if yaboot fails to run on my OF |
| 14:21.33 | [wrd] | i tried both |
| 14:21.58 | [wrd] | i tried debian-4.0r1(dvd,cd), finnix-0.90 (live-cd) |
| 14:22.18 | DelTree | strange... |
| 14:22.31 | DelTree | not an oldworld box... |
| 14:22.40 | DelTree | early newworld with broken OF ? |
| 14:22.53 | [wrd] | first iBook G4 ... |
| 14:23.05 | DelTree | ooch... |
| 14:23.08 | [wrd] | if i remember correctlty |
| 14:23.23 | DelTree | those had trouble to boot linux... :/ |
| 14:23.43 | [wrd] | is there a fix ? |
| 14:24.01 | DelTree | there must be some trick... but I don't know it... |
| 14:24.12 | [wrd] | ok |
| 14:24.17 | DelTree | quite a bit of a google session to find it on the net... |
| 14:24.33 | [wrd] | uhm |
| 14:24.55 | [wrd] | i have to go shopping now, i will try to patch OF later. |
| 14:25.20 | [wrd] | if i find a solution, do want a report? :) |
| 14:25.33 | DelTree | the thing is probably a OF command sequence to have it finally boot that damn cd... |
| 14:26.09 | DelTree | yeah... not a "full report"... but earing you made it would be great... ;) |
| 14:26.24 | [wrd] | hehe,ok see you later |
| 14:27.05 | DelTree | see you... |
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| 16:45.47 | pahartik | DelTree: I do not remember noticing any specific issues reported about first iBook G4 models... |
| 16:46.43 | [wrd] | pahartik: still Openfirmware fails to run yaboot :/ |
| 16:46.48 | [wrd] | on my iBook |
| 16:46.59 | pahartik | DelTree: Then again, my personal experience is limited to iBook G4 (late 2004) model |
| 16:49.20 | pahartik | [wrd]: Booting from IEEE-1394 device is tricky for "yaboot" |
| 16:49.34 | [wrd] | pahartik: i also tried to boot from hd:0 ... |
| 16:50.14 | [wrd] | didn't change a thing ... |
| 16:52.02 | pahartik | [wrd]: Someone could send you image of fresh install that you could just "dd" to disk on MacOS X... |
| 16:57.04 | [wrd] | pahartik: i don't think that will work, since loading yaboot from harddisc already fails .. |
| 16:58.34 | pahartik | [wrd]: How did you install "yaboot"? |
| 16:59.43 | [wrd] | pahartik: i downloaded the hd installer files |
| 16:59.45 | [wrd] | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-powerpc/20070308/images/powerpc/hd-media/ |
| 16:59.52 | [wrd] | copied them to root |
| 17:00.07 | [wrd] | and tried to boot yaboot from OF-console. |
| 17:00.52 | [wrd] | thats the way the debian documentation tells me to do it, if i want to install debian. |
| 17:01.06 | [wrd] | as i said my optical drive is broken |
| 17:01.58 | pahartik | [wrd]: If you would like to experiment, I could send you image of... First 831.5 KiB of my iBook G4 harddisk... It contains partition map and "yaboot" |
| 17:02.43 | [wrd] | can you post me your /etc/fstab ? |
| 17:06.33 | pahartik | [wrd]: Sure... Old one has expired from service at "http://pastebin.ca/", I have to submit again... |
| 17:08.02 | [wrd] | does pastebin offer binary pasting? |
| 17:13.29 | pahartik | [wrd]: Output available at "http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/kiara-disktype" |
| 17:17.32 | pahartik | [wrd]: And now I notice that it is actually not what you asked for, but still... |
| 17:18.47 | [wrd] | pahartik: what is it |
| 17:19.46 | [wrd] | it is a ascii file ... |
| 17:20.16 | pahartik | [wrd]: It represents partition table on iBook G4... |
| 17:20.46 | pahartik | [wrd]: ...in human-readable form... |
| 17:21.28 | [wrd] | ah |
| 17:21.32 | [wrd] | i just read it |
| 17:21.43 | [wrd] | when i typed what is it, i hexdumped your file |
| 17:21.57 | pahartik | [wrd]: You did not yet say whether you wish to try and see if my installed "yaboot" works for you |
| 17:22.48 | [wrd] | so i have to get at least the first 831.50 kb of your hard disk .. |
| 17:23.33 | pahartik | [wrd]: Are you familiar with "dd"? |
| 17:24.02 | [wrd] | pahartik: never used it but i know what it does. |
| 17:25.06 | [wrd] | i guess dd if=in-image of=disk-partition should be fine .. |
| 17:28.06 | [wrd] | so feel free to send me your boot sector + first partiton |
| 17:28.06 | [wrd] | s |
| 17:28.25 | pahartik | [wrd]: "<disk-device>" instead of "<disk-partition>", but otherwise yes... As I do not care about your partition table, I will just make image of first... 1664 sectors of my harddisk... That should be enough to boot "yaboot" |
| 17:30.08 | pahartik | [wrd]: "sectors" as in "blocks" |
| 17:31.43 | [wrd] | yes go ahead :) |
| 17:37.27 | pahartik | [wrd]: Results of "sudo dd if=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc of=/tmp/kiara-yaboot-image bs=512 count=1664" at "http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/kiara-yaboot-image" |
| 17:39.37 | pahartik | [wrd]: Back up beginning of your harddisk if you want to easily revert experiment... |
| 17:40.12 | [wrd] | just a moment |
| 17:40.45 | [wrd] | i intend to destroy the content of my harddisk anyway :) |
| 17:41.32 | [wrd] | i dont know wheter there is a restore shell at the tiger install dvd |
| 17:44.31 | pahartik | [wrd]: But you can easily use internal harddisk of iBook G4 (or any PowerMacintosh that came with IEEE-1394) as external IEEE-1394 harddisk |
| 17:47.16 | [wrd] | i don't have any toshiba screw driver :) |
| 17:47.36 | [wrd] | i think it'll be cheaper to reinstall macosx via firewire |
| 17:48.44 | pahartik | [wrd]: Are you aware of "target-disk-mode" of OpenFirmware? |
| 17:49.40 | [wrd] | yes i know |
| 17:49.57 | [wrd] | but it only makes sense if i have at least another mac or fire wire port ;) |
| 17:50.48 | [wrd] | if you mean that you can easily boot from another mac via firewire feature ; ) |
| 17:51.21 | pahartik | [wrd]: If you have workstation without IEEE-1394, you need IEEE-1394 adapter... |
| 17:52.45 | pahartik | [wrd]: Yes, one can boot from it or access disk otherwise as usual block device |
| 17:52.55 | [wrd] | ok |
| 17:53.43 | [wrd] | i have a backup of my notebook data, except installed files and i still got that tiger dvd so i dont care and i try to overwrite my harddisk (i am aware of that risk :-)) |
| 17:56.32 | [wrd] | ok |
| 17:56.47 | [wrd] | dd fails to rewrite my disk -> resource busy |
| 17:56.47 | pahartik | [wrd]: I am fan of IEEE-1394 |
| 17:58.37 | [wrd] | my other hardware is pretty old in comparison to my 4 year old iBook ... |
| 17:59.14 | [wrd] | so i can't overwrite the first parts of my disk ... |
| 17:59.49 | pahartik | [wrd]: You need MacOS X skills? |
| 18:01.28 | [wrd] | might come in handy ( i basically don't know a lot about my mac) |
| 18:02.05 | [wrd] | but dd fails to run and tells me /dev/disk0 is busy |
| 18:02.11 | [wrd] | and i was root :) |
| 18:12.38 | pahartik | [wrd]: I do not know if "disk0" is proper device... Could be, but I am not sure... |
| 18:13.08 | [wrd] | mac os x style for disks looks like this |
| 18:13.45 | [wrd] | /dev/disk0s0 is / accourding to mount .. and /dev/disk1s2 is volumes the tiger install dvd |
| 18:14.27 | [wrd] | but fdisk fails on all those disk devices |
| 18:17.05 | pahartik | [wrd]: I concur, it was expected device... |
| 18:17.57 | [wrd] | but it still fails maybe because its mounted .. |
| 18:18.24 | pahartik | [wrd]: That is possible |
| 18:19.54 | pahartik | [wrd]: Try to boot to single-user mode and try again? |
| 18:20.28 | [wrd] | heh |
| 18:22.33 | [wrd] | as expected doesnt change a thing |
| 18:22.38 | pahartik | [wrd]: As described in chapter four of document at "http://www.fatsquirrel.org/veghead/wot/macosx.php"... |
| 18:23.20 | [wrd] | didn't know that there is another single user mode |
| 18:24.13 | [wrd] | still states resource busy |
| 18:25.36 | pahartik | [wrd]: Damn that... |
| 18:26.39 | [wrd] | ok last try is from usb :) |
| 18:27.33 | pahartik | [wrd]: That I do not know anything about... |
| 18:27.49 | [wrd] | me neither but the debian installation manual does know something about it :) |
| 18:30.48 | [wrd] | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch04s04.html.en |
| 18:31.31 | pahartik | [wrd]: I would have just written "yaboot" image and probably root filesystem on another workstation by using IEEE-1394 target disk mode... |
| 18:50.06 | [wrd] | ok loading yaboot from usb doesnt work either |
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