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| 11:46.36 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 11:46.53 | Mazingaro | please I need someone to help install debian ppc on an old performa 6400/200 of 2.0 |
| 12:00.13 | pahartik | Mazingaro: I have always started Debian installer on OldWorld PowerMacintosh by using BootX... |
| 12:32.07 | Mazingaro | pahartik: ok, and then? |
| 12:32.31 | Mazingaro | pahartik: I put in bootx dir vmlinux and initrd.gz |
| 12:32.59 | Mazingaro | pahartik: It stars with linux kernel, then panic on scsi devices |
| 12:35.55 | pahartik | Mazingaro: It needs boot parameters or custom kernel... |
| 12:36.29 | Mazingaro | pahartik: I used vmlinux file to boot |
| 12:37.11 | pahartik | Mazingaro: Did you define ramdisk image on BootX? |
| 12:37.30 | Mazingaro | yes |
| 12:37.32 | Mazingaro | I told you |
| 12:37.33 | Mazingaro | it boots |
| 12:37.50 | Mazingaro | but panic after a while |
| 12:38.44 | pahartik | Mazingaro: Did installer run, or does kernel give up before starting that? |
| 12:39.14 | Mazingaro | before mounting root |
| 12:39.46 | Mazingaro | after detecting scsi bus peripherals |
| 12:40.30 | Mazingaro | Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 [#1] |
| 12:41.27 | pahartik | Mazingaro: Try another kernel version then... |
| 12:42.13 | Mazingaro | is it possible boot directly from linux? |
| 13:19.12 | Mazingaro | no way |
| 13:19.36 | Mazingaro | I ever think that macs are expensive pieces of crap, now it's the proof |
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| 14:01.59 | epifanio | hi to all |
| 14:02.09 | epifanio | i'm new here |
| 14:03.16 | epifanio | i've installed for the fist time a debian testing netinstall on my new ("old") ibook g4 1,4 ghz 14.1 '' |
| 14:03.32 | epifanio | can you help me to configure the hardware ? |
| 14:03.54 | epifanio | i do not know how setting up my video card :-/ |
| 14:04.12 | epifanio | thanks for any suggestion! :-) |
| 14:05.13 | pahartik | epifanio: Are you having problem with X.org server? |
| 14:06.26 | epifanio | no all woks fine, but in standard mode (e.g. a fresh netinstall installation, gnome works fine), but i'm not able to use the 3d graphics otion |
| 14:06.49 | epifanio | like it don't have the right hardware-drivers support enabled |
| 14:08.38 | epifanio | *option, these is actually my xorg.conf : http://rafb.net/p/TiTYKs40.html |
| 14:09.17 | epifanio | it is automatic generated by the netinstall installation process |
| 14:12.21 | epifanio | it is possible to enable or install the right driver for my video card ? |
| 14:13.59 | pahartik | epifanio: Do you have "/usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so"? |
| 14:14.36 | epifanio | checking just a sec |
| 14:15.53 | epifanio | pahartik: no i haven't it |
| 14:17.45 | epifanio | there isn't any directory "dri" in /usr/lib |
| 14:19.08 | pahartik | epifanio: On my iBook G4 "libgl1-mesa-dri" provides it |
| 14:20.30 | epifanio | ok ill'try to onstall it using : apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri , right ? |
| 14:20.36 | epifanio | *install |
| 14:22.24 | epifanio | i'm downloading it right now, when it finsh, need i to rebbot , to have it working ? |
| 14:24.12 | pahartik | epifanio: Not necessarily... No need to even restart X.org server if things are otherwise in order |
| 14:25.41 | epifanio | so i need to stop gdm (i forghet the command to do it) and then restart it using : startx ? |
| 14:27.49 | epifanio | pahartik: apoligize me for these newbie questions, you're giving me a perciouse help, thanks! |
| 14:27.52 | pahartik | epifanio: No, you can check what "glxinfo" says about "direct rendering" after installing |
| 14:28.48 | pahartik | epifanio: You are welcome |
| 14:43.18 | pahartik | epifanio: Any progress? |
| 14:43.54 | epifanio | strange, i don't reboot , i done an updatedb |
| 14:44.13 | simonrvn | @reboot |
| 14:44.14 | ravenbird | Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$? |
| 14:45.03 | epifanio | but : http://rafb.net/p/oABArM96.html |
| 14:46.04 | epifanio | glxinfo is not fond on my system |
| 14:47.11 | pahartik | epifanio: My "dpkg --search glxinfo" says "mesa-utils: /usr/bin/glxinfo" |
| 14:50.23 | epifanio | :-/ i haven't it : http://rafb.net/p/8TvVCa23.html |
| 14:52.37 | pahartik | epifanio: You need to install "mesa-utils" package to get it |
| 14:53.21 | epifanio | ok, i'm installing it |
| 14:55.02 | epifanio | yep! http://rafb.net/p/l8m2LM63.html now i've it :-D |
| 14:56.05 | epifanio | i'm happy for these :-) , what's the next step ? |
| 14:56.30 | epifanio | need i to reconfigure the xorg.conf file ? |
| 14:57.18 | pahartik | epifanio: What do you mean by "3d graphics" though? Some specific application? |
| 14:59.59 | epifanio | as first i need that my debian ibook, use the right hardware when running generic opengl applications |
| 15:00.15 | epifanio | as second, i want try to enable visual effect on my desktop (mybe its name is compiz) |
| 15:03.19 | pahartik | epifanio: I see... |
| 15:04.16 | pahartik | epifanio: Are you new to Debian GNU/Linux? |
| 15:04.30 | epifanio | yes |
| 15:05.01 | epifanio | i've used for little time an ubuntu7.10, on a deskpc |
| 15:05.34 | epifanio | but i want to use debian, as suggested from the most linux users |
| 15:06.06 | epifanio | is a difficoult task what i need ? |
| 15:08.49 | pahartik | epifanio: I do not know much about OpenGL and 3D... I have not needed it for anything, but every now and then I check if "glxgears" still spin... |
| 15:10.43 | epifanio | maybe to have it working, (ot to see if it works) can i try to enable the desktop effects? |
| 15:11.05 | epifanio | just to see is xorg are using the right configuration file |
| 15:14.24 | pahartik | epifanio: I like to try things |
| 15:16.00 | epifanio | pahartik: what i need to try ? ( unluky ... my englesh ... is like my linux knowledge) |
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| 15:21.21 | simonrvn | etch wouldn't be much help, you'd have to use backports since compiz nor compix-fusion aren't in etch, or upgrade to lenny (testing) |
| 15:21.35 | simonrvn | i suggest the first option |
| 15:23.48 | simonrvn | @backports |
| 15:23.48 | ravenbird | a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port , http://backports.org/ , http://www.apt-get.org/ , ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 15:24.30 | epifanio | maybe i'm on lenny , i'installed the testing netinstall so it is lenny, right ? |
| 15:27.01 | simonrvn | @version |
| 15:27.02 | ravenbird | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a |
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| 18:01.06 | epifanio | hi, apologize me for these gpa-time, |
| 18:01.15 | epifanio | *gap-time |
| 18:01.25 | epifanio | i just come back from a personal issue, |
| 18:01.35 | epifanio | these is the log about my system : http://rafb.net/p/6fgwzT42.html |
| 18:02.01 | epifanio | i also enabled the backports repository in source.list |
| 18:02.26 | epifanio | now in synaptic i've a lot of compis-xxx packages |
| 18:02.36 | epifanio | *compiz-xxx |
| 18:03.31 | epifanio | which package i need ? compix-core and more others ? |
| 18:08.16 | epifanio | ok i installed the most option eg. compiz-cre and compiz-fusion |
| 18:09.25 | epifanio | but now how can i enable it ? |
| 18:12.43 | epifanio | i'll try a log-out and log-in |
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| 18:28.49 | epifanio | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.56 | simonrvn | is the opengl working? did you check with glxinfo | grep direct rendering ? (should say yes) |
| 18:30.19 | simonrvn | er, 'directct' should suffice |
| 18:30.33 | simonrvn | direct even *sigh* |
| 18:31.14 | epifanio | glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" > direct rendering: Yes |
| 18:31.41 | epifanio | it give me "yes" |
| 18:32.36 | simonrvn | ok, and what's the video card? |
| 18:35.04 | epifanio | actually all the ibook hardware's parts are note well recognized , that's my lspci and xorg.conf : http://rafb.net/p/0YKIIk11.html |
| 18:35.51 | simonrvn | ok, try doing update-pciids as root first, then lspci |
| 18:36.16 | epifanio | the sound card is not recognized too, maybe the netinstall-cd hasn't install all the needed drivers |
| 18:37.42 | epifanio | i've : http://rafb.net/p/P0KcMs46.html |
| 18:39.12 | simonrvn | ok, what do you get from grep -i video /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 18:44.27 | epifanio | it give me : http://rafb.net/p/eSa4JV39.html |
| 18:45.33 | simonrvn | hm, technically it should support compiz |
| 18:45.55 | simonrvn | you have enough video ram and i *think* that card is supported. |
| 18:48.12 | simonrvn | well, also you'll have to enable the composite extension.. did you do that? |
| 18:48.32 | simonrvn | sec, i'll give you some stuff to put in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 18:49.33 | simonrvn | eh, i'll have to look it up |
| 18:54.12 | epifanio | sorry, i don't know where-how can i "enable the composite extension" |
| 18:54.33 | epifanio | thanks for the xorh.conf :-) |
| 19:03.01 | simonrvn | http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency # look down the page, look for the Section "Extensions" |
| 19:03.37 | epifanio | so, it do not works beacouse i haven't enabled the composite extension :-/ how can ii do it ? |
| 19:03.46 | simonrvn | read that link |
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| 19:33.01 | epifanio | i can do it in the xorg.conf, right ? |
| 19:34.37 | simonrvn | yes, that's where you're supposed to put it ;) |
| 19:37.30 | epifanio | now i need to know how modify it :-/ |
| 19:41.18 | epifanio | i'm looking some web page , but are a bit complex for me, something like : http://mij.oltrelinux.com/ibook/step_step/index.html ? |
| 19:41.58 | epifanio | need i to folllow similar steps ? like rebuild the kernel :-( ? |
| 19:43.12 | simonrvn | no |
| 19:44.28 | simonrvn | just put that in, restart x server, and try launching the composite manager like that ^^^ page says |
| 19:44.54 | simonrvn | (the page i gave you, not the one you put) |
| 19:45.47 | simonrvn | to edit it, do editor /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:46.40 | epifanio | simonrvn: can you repaste the page please, i can't find it thanks :-) |
| 19:47.05 | simonrvn | .:14:03:00:. <simonrvn> http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency # look down the page, look for the Section "Extensions" |
| 19:50.18 | simonrvn | i GTG.. good luck with that |
| 19:51.06 | epifanio | need i to add only these : http://rafb.net/p/Pt3Zml96.html |
| 19:51.38 | simonrvn | yes |
| 19:51.44 | epifanio | thanks for the help , i'll try you'r suggestioin |
| 19:53.27 | epifanio | done, i'll try to restart x |
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| 20:03.40 | epifanio | i added it, but i can't see improvements :-/ , nothing changes in my |
| 20:03.48 | epifanio | desktop options |
| 21:18.17 | epifanio | i described what i don until now in a single paste http://rafb.net/p/aixsMA26.html until now i haven't it working, video and audio device are not recognized :-( |
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