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| 16:39.55 | johnficc1 | Hi I installed debian on a imac g3 233mhz 150mb ram, and when I boot try to boot it up I get an bonobo error code: 3 and gnome setting daemon failed to start...is there a way to fix these? |
| 16:40.11 | johnficc1 | gnome will not boot up as well |
| 16:40.29 | johnficc1 | I just get the errors and a grey screen. |
| 16:42.45 | johnficc1 | and I need setup my repo list |
| 16:47.27 | johnficc1 | is anyone here |
| 16:47.33 | pahartik | johnficc1: You have X11 server running but somehow GNOME environment fails? |
| 16:48.07 | johnficc1 | I don't know...I can login to twm and that works. |
| 16:50.12 | pahartik | johnficc1: So X11 server works... Maybe "~/.xsession-errors" would reveal some details... |
| 16:51.12 | johnficc1 | ok so I just got it to login to gnome I had to set the date before logging in |
| 16:51.27 | johnficc1 | the screen res is bad |
| 16:51.46 | johnficc1 | only 512x384 |
| 16:51.57 | johnficc1 | is there a way to fix that? |
| 16:52.10 | johnficc1 | should i switch the driver to vesa |
| 16:52.16 | johnficc1 | or to radeon? |
| 16:57.35 | pahartik | johnficc1: Definitely not |
| 16:58.09 | johnficc1 | vesa should work right? |
| 16:58.18 | johnficc1 | right now its on ati |
| 16:58.18 | pahartik | johnficc1: But 1024x768 should work |
| 16:58.56 | pahartik | johnficc1: Which version of X11 server? |
| 16:59.11 | johnficc1 | how do I check that? |
| 17:00.48 | johnficc1 | there are some updates to the kernel that I need to do |
| 17:00.55 | johnficc1 | two of them |
| 17:01.04 | johnficc1 | I think that might help |
| 17:01.28 | pahartik | johnficc1: I assume that you are new to Debian GNU/Linux |
| 17:01.58 | johnficc1 | yes to debian not to linux I use ubuntu |
| 17:02.34 | johnficc1 | it is online but an error occured with the updates |
| 17:02.49 | johnficc1 | W: Failed to fatch |
| 17:03.02 | johnficc1 | bla bla bla |
| 17:03.25 | johnficc1 | I think I need to set up my source.list |
| 17:03.39 | pahartik | johnficc1: Yes... That is correct |
| 17:03.49 | johnficc1 | is there a how to ? |
| 17:04.00 | pahartik | johnficc1: "/etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 17:04.25 | johnficc1 | there is not much in there |
| 17:05.40 | pahartik | johnficc1: Look at document at "http://www.debian.org/mirrors/list"... |
| 17:07.22 | johnficc1 | this is the one I am using ftp.egr.msu.edu |
| 17:09.16 | pahartik | johnficc1: "man sources.list" is also useful |
| 17:10.18 | johnficc1 | the method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http// could not be found |
| 17:10.39 | johnficc1 | thats what i get when i try apt-get update |
| 17:12.35 | johnficc1 | ok fix that |
| 17:12.45 | johnficc1 | I fixed it I mean |
| 17:13.56 | pahartik | johnficc1: Very good... I assume that URL was broken |
| 17:13.57 | johnficc1 | couldn't stat source package http://biglongaddress |
| 17:14.05 | johnficc1 | yes it was |
| 17:14.12 | johnficc1 | now I get that |
| 17:15.13 | johnficc1 | I C I'm not online |
| 17:15.27 | johnficc1 | but it says I am in the networkmanager |
| 17:17.02 | johnficc1 | is there something I need to install |
| 17:17.14 | johnficc1 | I was online when I install |
| 17:17.35 | johnficc1 | it had to download all of the packages |
| 17:17.36 | pahartik | johnficc1: I am busy right now... But stay on channel, if you want assistance... Yes, we can be idle for hours or days, but that does not mean someone is not watching |
| 17:17.48 | johnficc1 | ok |
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| 17:43.28 | johnficca | having trouble getting online |
| 17:43.51 | johnficca | in the networking it says it is active |
| 17:45.38 | johnficca | I know it works because I used the netboot install cd to install |
| 17:51.47 | johnficca | ok now I got it online but the networkmanager apply says I'm off |
| 18:18.44 | johnficca | I got my screen res working but I had to turn done my color to 16, it there a way to get it up to 24? |
| 18:22.01 | simonrvn | @drxx johnficca |
| 18:22.02 | ravenbird | johnficca: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 18:24.44 | johnficca | every time I have run the reconfigure xserver thing I have had a lot of bad luck |
| 18:26.06 | simonrvn | first do dpkg-reconfigure debconf set that to low |
| 18:26.28 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:27.01 | simonrvn | it'll ask you more questions |
| 18:27.30 | johnficca | debconfig is not installed |
| 18:27.44 | johnficca | spelled it wrong |
| 18:28.04 | johnficca | what interface do i use? |
| 18:28.42 | simonrvn | uh, debconf. i did not say debconfig, and you run that as root |
| 18:28.53 | simonrvn | stick with the default |
| 18:28.59 | simonrvn | (interface) |
| 18:29.02 | johnficca | dialog? |
| 18:29.12 | johnficca | readline? |
| 18:29.17 | johnficca | gnome? |
| 18:29.21 | simonrvn | dialog |
| 18:29.21 | johnficca | kde? |
| 18:29.28 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:29.49 | johnficca | high? |
| 18:29.54 | johnficca | medium? |
| 18:29.56 | johnficca | low? |
| 18:30.19 | simonrvn | low |
| 18:30.29 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:30.30 | simonrvn | ...i did say that before |
| 18:30.37 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:31.03 | johnficca | now what do i do? |
| 18:31.16 | simonrvn | do the xorg one |
| 18:31.21 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:31.44 | johnficca | I'm running etch I think |
| 18:32.05 | simonrvn | yes |
| 18:32.31 | johnficca | so this one |
| 18:32.32 | johnficca | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 18:33.36 | simonrvn | yes |
| 18:33.42 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:34.24 | johnficca | autodetect yes or no? |
| 18:34.50 | simonrvn | do you know what you need? if so, don't |
| 18:35.32 | johnficca | I have know Idea what i need |
| 18:35.35 | johnficca | no* |
| 18:35.42 | johnficca | so yes then? |
| 18:35.48 | simonrvn | lspic should tell you |
| 18:35.52 | simonrvn | lspci* |
| 18:36.09 | simonrvn | do lspci | grep -i video |
| 18:36.24 | simonrvn | er, vga not video |
| 18:38.01 | johnficca | ati technologies inc 3D rage IIC 215IIC [Mach64 GT IIC] (rev 3a) |
| 18:38.06 | johnficca | that is what I get |
| 18:38.19 | simonrvn | choose ati |
| 18:38.30 | simonrvn | er, say no then choose ati |
| 18:38.36 | johnficca | so don't do autodetect? |
| 18:38.40 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:39.16 | johnficca | Identifier for my card? |
| 18:39.51 | simonrvn | leave it as is |
| 18:39.56 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:40.22 | johnficca | ok now something about busid |
| 18:40.55 | simonrvn | the crucial steps would be selecting your resolution, usefbdev (should be set to no) |
| 18:41.11 | simonrvn | you have only video device there, right? |
| 18:41.41 | johnficca | it says video card's bus identifier: |
| 18:41.55 | johnficca | PCI:0:18:0 |
| 18:42.09 | simonrvn | answer my question please |
| 18:42.29 | johnficca | I don't understand the question |
| 18:42.40 | simonrvn | simonrvn> you have only video device there |
| 18:42.43 | simonrvn | ? |
| 18:43.17 | johnficca | I don't understand what that means? |
| 18:43.21 | simonrvn | nm, leave it as is |
| 18:43.48 | johnficca | ok now its asking for amount of memory |
| 18:44.30 | simonrvn | ignore it |
| 18:44.42 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:45.03 | simonrvn | put it blank, or leave it blank if it is already, doesn't matter |
| 18:45.14 | johnficca | use kernel framebuffer device interface? |
| 18:45.18 | johnficca | yes or no? |
| 18:45.22 | simonrvn | no |
| 18:45.25 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:45.50 | johnficca | autodetect keyboard layout? |
| 18:45.55 | johnficca | yes or no? |
| 18:46.09 | simonrvn | sure |
| 18:46.14 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:46.43 | johnficca | XKB rule sat to use:? |
| 18:46.48 | johnficca | xorg |
| 18:46.50 | johnficca | ? |
| 18:47.26 | simonrvn | it's the only choice |
| 18:47.35 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:48.08 | johnficca | keyboard model? |
| 18:48.13 | johnficca | pc104? |
| 18:48.55 | simonrvn | is that what you have? (you can always change it later by doing this again) |
| 18:49.05 | johnficca | I don't know |
| 18:49.15 | johnficca | its a imac g3 keyboard |
| 18:49.19 | simonrvn | leave it then |
| 18:49.28 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:49.42 | simonrvn | that doesn't mean very much, it's asking for keyboard layout |
| 18:50.03 | johnficca | keyboard options? |
| 18:50.18 | johnficca | just leave it blank? |
| 18:50.35 | simonrvn | yeh, unless you know what you want |
| 18:50.59 | johnficca | mouse port:? |
| 18:51.09 | johnficca | /dev/input/mice? |
| 18:51.12 | simonrvn | yes |
| 18:51.20 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:51.33 | johnficca | mouse protocol ? |
| 18:51.39 | johnficca | Imps/2 |
| 18:51.51 | simonrvn | yes |
| 18:51.52 | johnficca | ExeplorerPS/2 |
| 18:51.55 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:52.42 | johnficca | X.0rg server modules that should be loaded by default? |
| 18:52.58 | johnficca | and there is a list |
| 18:53.20 | simonrvn | unselect glcore and add any other ones not checked |
| 18:53.46 | johnficca | glcore is not there |
| 18:53.56 | simonrvn | ok |
| 18:54.00 | johnficca | the ones not ckecked are dbe |
| 18:54.05 | johnficca | record |
| 18:54.10 | johnficca | v4l |
| 18:54.21 | simonrvn | oh leave v4l off |
| 18:54.29 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:54.38 | johnficca | turn on the others? |
| 18:54.41 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 18:55.17 | johnficca | write default file section to configuration file? |
| 18:55.25 | johnficca | yes or no? |
| 18:55.27 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 18:55.36 | simonrvn | and yes to dri |
| 18:56.01 | johnficca | attempt monitor autodectection ? |
| 18:56.05 | johnficca | yes or no? |
| 18:56.18 | simonrvn | what's the machine? |
| 18:56.22 | johnficca | didn't see anything about dri |
| 18:56.33 | johnficca | imac g3 all in one |
| 18:56.42 | simonrvn | dri is probably after this |
| 18:56.46 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:56.50 | simonrvn | uh, yeh try |
| 18:56.54 | johnficca | ok |
| 18:57.22 | johnficca | identifier for the monitor? |
| 18:57.24 | johnficca | iMac |
| 18:57.26 | johnficca | ? |
| 18:57.32 | simonrvn | that's fine |
| 18:57.59 | johnficca | video modes to be used by the X server ? |
| 18:58.29 | johnficca | max res for this monitor is 1024x768 |
| 18:58.37 | simonrvn | 1024x768 800x and 832x |
| 18:59.00 | simonrvn | (might not have 832x) |
| 18:59.12 | johnficca | yeah it doesn't |
| 18:59.47 | johnficca | method for selecting the monitor characteristics? |
| 18:59.54 | johnficca | simple ? |
| 19:00.00 | johnficca | medium ? |
| 19:00.01 | simonrvn | sure |
| 19:00.04 | simonrvn | simple |
| 19:00.06 | johnficca | ok |
| 19:00.54 | johnficca | I think its 15" |
| 19:01.09 | simonrvn | yes |
| 19:01.29 | johnficca | write monitor sync rangs to the config file? |
| 19:01.33 | johnficca | yes or no? |
| 19:01.39 | simonrvn | yes |
| 19:01.51 | simonrvn | (even though it doesn't do anything... ;) |
| 19:01.51 | johnficca | color depth? |
| 19:01.56 | simonrvn | 24 |
| 19:02.04 | johnficca | ok |
| 19:02.18 | johnficca | now I think its done |
| 19:02.25 | johnficca | it closed |
| 19:02.47 | simonrvn | fire it up see what happens |
| 19:02.58 | johnficca | should I reboot? |
| 19:03.03 | simonrvn | no |
| 19:03.11 | simonrvn | why woould you reboot? |
| 19:03.31 | johnficca | I am already running gnome |
| 19:03.57 | simonrvn | log out of gnome, restart gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm restart) as root |
| 19:04.06 | johnficca | just i would like to run the color depth at 24 without it turning my monitor res down |
| 19:04.20 | johnficca | ok |
| 19:05.05 | simonrvn | that thing should handle it fine |
| 19:06.45 | johnficca | opps I think it just crashed |
| 19:06.52 | johnficca | booting up again |
| 19:07.00 | johnficca | 1 sec |
| 19:07.06 | simonrvn | tyt |
| 19:09.35 | johnficca | ok now it shows nothing |
| 19:09.48 | johnficca | the monitor just goes off |
| 19:12.15 | simonrvn | last resort... go see dotfiles.com and look for imac g3 xfconfig-4. cp it to /etc/X11, backup your old xorg.conf first; rename it to xorg.conf; change the xfree86 in the keyboard section to xorg, restart gdm. make sure you get the right revision imac, and you'll be ok |
| 19:12.36 | johnficca | ok |
| 19:12.40 | johnficca | thanks for the help |
| 19:12.43 | simonrvn | np |
| 19:13.30 | simonrvn | you can get the revision from cat /proc/cpuinfo IIRC |
| 19:13.59 | simonrvn | good luck, see you later |
| 19:14.25 | johnficca | yeah you too |
| 19:15.19 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 19:24.01 | johnficca | revision says it 2.2 so would that be B |
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| 22:06.42 | epifanio | hi |
| 22:07.20 | epifanio | i'm on ppc ubuntu7.10 , i'm tring to search a package like "remastersys" that works on ppc too |
| 22:08.08 | epifanio | can you suggest-me what i need, unluky i can't resolve remastersys's dependancies |
| 22:32.02 | epifanio | ok now it works, i downloaded a .deb from debian repository |
| 22:37.59 | simonrvn | you shouldn't mix distros like that |
| 22:40.20 | epifanio | that's only solution i find :-/ ... i done these procedure for openscenegraphic (debian have 2.x , ubuntu 1.2) .. and it works |
| 22:41.04 | simonrvn | ok |
| 22:41.26 | epifanio | i love debian, i tried it first |
| 22:41.51 | epifanio | but i'm a linux noob, debian gived me problems to configure my hardware correctly |
| 22:42.32 | epifanio | i'm on ibook-g4 1.4ghz |
| 22:43.12 | epifanio | now that i've a linux box working with ubuntu i decided to make a backup cd (installable) |
| 22:43.23 | epifanio | using remastersys, |
| 22:43.36 | epifanio | so i can try a new installation using debian |
| 22:43.52 | epifanio | if i'll have problems ... i can come back |
| 22:44.03 | epifanio | and reinstall the backupped cd |
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