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| 03:24.20 | calamari | hi |
| 03:27.41 | calamari | has anybody been able to make a BootX configuration file? |
| 03:28.10 | calamari | it always gives me an error.. I figure if I could just get one, then I could hexedit it to do what I need |
| 03:42.21 | simonrvn | with bootx it's easy ;) |
| 03:48.13 | dclarke | simonrvn : is there some well defined process whereby I cna submit packages upstream for the Debian etch powerpc users? A lot of the software seems out of date |
| 03:48.18 | simonrvn | dclarke: it's stable, things tend to get "old" |
| 03:48.30 | dclarke | fair enough |
| 03:49.11 | simonrvn | only updates are security bugs and really bad bugs. people tend to use backports.org and volatile for fast moving targets |
| 03:49.47 | simonrvn | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile etch/volatile main contrib non-free |
| 03:49.47 | dclarke | I was thinking that something like tar should be at least .. up to date .. it can be very well tested |
| 03:49.52 | simonrvn | deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free |
| 03:50.03 | dclarke | or I'll just use Jorg Schilling star .. which rocks |
| 03:50.43 | simonrvn | a lot of the backports.org stuff is now maintained by DDs |
| 03:50.56 | dclarke | DD ? |
| 03:50.59 | simonrvn | !dd |
| 03:51.02 | simonrvn | @dd |
| 03:51.03 | dclarke | Dungeons and Dragons |
| 03:51.04 | ravenbird | well, dd is man dd or dd if=/foo/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 to produce a bootable floppy, or a Debian Developer |
| 03:51.24 | dclarke | I think it is probably Dungeons and Dragons |
| 03:51.57 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 03:52.42 | simonrvn | debian has a strict package policy. there's drawback, but there's also advantages |
| 03:52.48 | simonrvn | drawbacks* |
| 03:53.49 | simonrvn | stable is good for a server, workstations tend to track lenny (currently testing) or sid (unstable; often used by testers and developers) |
| 03:54.38 | simonrvn | sid is also only recommended for experienced debian users, as things can break |
| 04:11.07 | dclarke | sorry .. got distracted |
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| 18:36.42 | docelic | Hey folks. Is Debian on iMac G5 supported well? I'm considering a used one for a desktop |
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| 19:27.24 | f_-microsuxx-bot | hi all im xmb |
| 19:27.52 | f_-microsuxx-bot | simonrvn, hi |
| 19:27.56 | f_-microsuxx-bot | why is the chan so empty |
| 19:28.26 | simonrvn | o_O |
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| 19:36.09 | simonrvn | oh, i remember you now. hi f_-microsuxx-bot/xmb |
| 19:36.42 | simonrvn | f_-microsuxx-bot: not sure why, some people are here, some in the OFTC #debianppc, and some in both |
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| 19:36.57 | f_-microsuxx-bot | i see, cool |
| 19:37.34 | simonrvn | the "official" debian channels moved to the oftc network, and a debianppc one was started there too |
| 19:38.13 | f_-microsuxx-bot | i see |
| 19:38.35 | simonrvn | that was a long while ago, heh |
| 19:39.03 | f_-microsuxx-bot | im on gprs now, in psychiatries since nearly years,i lost a touchscreen phone, ill maie a 1x4 to 4x4 linux hoster for free, shells, servers, unlimited traffic and processes etc, and my laptop was stolen for 2 months or so |
| 19:39.05 | f_-microsuxx-bot | so the news here |
| 19:39.42 | simonrvn | ouch |
| 19:40.30 | simonrvn | my life has been pretty eventful too, some of it private ;) |
| 19:40.42 | f_-microsuxx-bot | gggg |
| 19:44.40 | f_-microsuxx-bot | its all private |
| 19:44.42 | f_-microsuxx-bot | !wc |
| 19:44.45 | ravenbird | wc is, like, a POSIX program to count words, lines and characters. In Debian GNU/Linux, the wc program is part of the GNU textutils. |
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| 19:44.59 | f_-microsuxx-bot | i figured many times and things in the meantime tillnow |
| 19:45.02 | f_-microsuxx-bot | and it continues |
| 19:45.09 | f_-microsuxx-bot | it could be as well that i be god |
| 19:45.11 | f_-microsuxx-bot | but funny thing is |
| 19:45.42 | f_-microsuxx-bot | i could say, souls made me god - a god since long years - then.. one week later, i went against my will to psychiatry, cause of parents [and i didnt tell anything about god or something around] |
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| 19:46.51 | f_-microsuxx-bot | i figured important time dependant and depending and related lessions and other things |
| 19:47.10 | f_-microsuxx-bot | like the stuff you say, breath, and write on the net, may be recorded |
| 19:47.25 | f_-microsuxx-bot | depends if you get highlighted, to who, and how [what kind of highlighting] |
| 19:47.38 | f_-microsuxx-bot | also if u're on any major list, eg on the fbi computers or whatever machines |
| 19:47.40 | f_-microsuxx-bot | maknoppix@Knoppix:~/.weechat/dcc$ sh infobash 0 |
| 19:47.42 | f_-microsuxx-bot | CPU[7447A clocked at 1249.999995MHz Mhz] Kernel[Linux 2.6.24 i686] Up[-3:18-] Mem[-242.4/2024.5MB-] HDD[-118GB(97%used)-] Procs[-79-] Client[Shell] |
| 19:47.44 | f_-microsuxx-bot | sorry |
| 19:47.46 | f_-microsuxx-bot | may get you killed |
| 19:47.52 | f_-microsuxx-bot | or hyped and|or then killed |
| 19:48.03 | f_-microsuxx-bot | whatever, the point is the recording... |
| 19:48.08 | f_-microsuxx-bot | ill continue in a bit |
| 19:48.12 | simonrvn | ok, please keep it on topic though |
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| 19:49.24 | f_-microsuxx-bot | oic ill make it short |
| 19:49.37 | f_-microsuxx-bot | see, you may or would or want to or not leave traces |
| 19:49.42 | f_-microsuxx-bot | data in other ways seen |
| 19:49.46 | f_-microsuxx-bot | its all you can |
| 19:49.48 | f_-microsuxx-bot | and its essential |
| 19:49.51 | f_-microsuxx-bot | for you, for your friends |
| 19:49.55 | f_-microsuxx-bot | for history, and for the future |
| 19:50.03 | f_-microsuxx-bot | i stopped writing 08, i write 8 |
| 19:50.15 | f_-microsuxx-bot | only in the 19th till 21th [yet] we have computers |
| 19:50.25 | f_-microsuxx-bot | so if someone in 1k years diggs up my files, he gets the date prolly |
| 19:50.49 | f_-microsuxx-bot | and if someone diggs you up without traces in 10k years, you wont exist much he will see, and who knows figure what |
| 19:50.54 | f_-microsuxx-bot | depends on what hes about to digg you up |
| 19:50.57 | f_-microsuxx-bot | understand some? |
| 19:51.17 | simonrvn | not really, sorry |
| 19:51.55 | f_-microsuxx-bot | isi |
| 19:52.00 | f_-microsuxx-bot | u will, prolly, somewhen |
| 19:52.01 | f_-microsuxx-bot | =] |
| 19:52.05 | f_-microsuxx-bot | eof from me to that |
| 19:56.37 | f_-microsuxx-bot | know why the deb channel split to oftc? |
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| 22:27.27 | ekl | where can i find something about installing debian on a powermac 4400 ? i'm not new to ppc, but it's my first oldworld |
| 22:28.01 | simonrvn | !ig |
| 22:28.03 | ravenbird | Installation Guide .. see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0 (Stable as of August 15, 2007) .. or see http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is Testing! |
| 22:28.07 | ekl | uh |
| 22:28.29 | simonrvn | there. also, like that ^^^ says, you'll need to do a floppy install |
| 22:29.04 | ekl | so, it can run the same normal net-install that i use for my ibook ? |
| 22:29.56 | ekl | all the stuff i found untill now was about sarge or woody, i was even wondering if using latest debian could be possible |
| 22:30.04 | simonrvn | floppy install implies floppy install, implies, fetching most of the install components via network |
| 22:30.14 | ekl | uhm |
| 22:30.15 | simonrvn | yes |
| 22:30.53 | ekl | so there is no way at all to do a cd installation ? i mean, even using bootx ? |
| 22:31.48 | simonrvn | you could try that, but i doubt it'll work... |
| 22:32.43 | ekl | for floppy install, you mean doing the whole installation using floppies ? |
| 22:33.10 | simonrvn | of course |
| 22:33.14 | ekl | mhmh.. |
| 22:33.33 | ekl | my idea was to boot using a floppy, then use the normal net-install cd |
| 22:33.40 | ekl | but i guess there's no way |
| 22:34.25 | ekl | thanks anyway, i'll read more and eventually be back asking later :) |
| 22:34.46 | simonrvn | no, because you can't specify the boot device with the floppy (unless you rebuild d-i yourself) |
| 22:35.04 | simonrvn | np. good luck. FWIW, those 4400 work good with linux |
| 22:35.12 | ekl | well |
| 22:35.53 | ekl | it's really similar to a normal pc, at least a lot more similar than other macs from that age |
| 22:36.21 | ekl | i choosed it for my "oldword linux box" for that reason |
| 22:36.27 | simonrvn | heh |
| 22:36.39 | ekl | then, i discovered that it's my only oldword ppc |
| 22:37.01 | ekl | after giving life to the 4400 with debian, my goal is AUX on quadra 610 |
| 22:37.20 | simonrvn | funky :) |
| 22:37.33 | ekl | then i'll be happy because all my ancient macs still have a reason to exist |
| 22:37.34 | simonrvn | linux on m68k is fucking slow |
| 22:37.46 | simonrvn | even 040 |
| 22:37.58 | ekl | never tried |
| 22:38.19 | simonrvn | tried it on a Q800 once... took all night to get halfway through the install... and that was woody |
| 22:38.29 | simonrvn | er, potato i think, actually |
| 22:39.29 | ekl | 1 week ago |
| 22:39.54 | ekl | i saw a slackware running on a pentium 133 laptop with no battery |
| 22:40.05 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 22:40.11 | ekl | 16 mb ram with 3 shared to video card |
| 22:40.15 | ekl | 1 gb hd |
| 22:40.32 | ekl | 9 hours for kernel compilation |
| 22:40.35 | ekl | no comment -.- |
| 22:40.38 | simonrvn | ugh |
| 22:41.00 | ekl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.10 | ekl | at 1 AM they stopped it, bored |
| 22:41.16 | simonrvn | takes about 2-4 hours on a beige g3 (closer to 4 if a large kernel) |
| 22:41.21 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 22:41.33 | ekl | they were watching it since 6 pm |
| 22:41.36 | ekl | crazy. |
| 22:42.05 | ekl | i guess they dreamed about matrix gliphs that night |
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| 22:42.17 | simonrvn | you go do something else while it does that, like hiking up a mountain for instance ;) |
| 22:42.29 | ekl | it was not mine |
| 22:42.50 | simonrvn | you general, not you ekl :) |
| 22:42.56 | ekl | eheh |
| 22:43.15 | ekl | back in some minutes |
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