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| 00:52.26 | zmjjmz | Old world powermacs = OS9 era? |
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| 02:17.31 | Deformative | Package gdc-4.2 is bugged. |
| 02:31.38 | simonrvn | zmjjmz: yes. PPC 1st, 2nd generations. |
| 02:32.22 | zmjjmz | ok |
| 02:32.35 | zmjjmz | so debianppc would be hard to get on a 7600/132? |
| 02:41.28 | simonrvn | only if that was a nubus ppc, which i doubt. has pci slots? |
| 02:45.48 | zmjjmz | 3 |
| 02:45.55 | zmjjmz | http://everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac/stats/powermac_7600_132.html |
| 02:47.09 | simonrvn | ok, shouldn't be a problem. only issues is to find the right install floppies (yes i said floppies). once you have that, it should be a breeze. |
| 02:48.03 | simonrvn | those floppies aren't going to be on the official mirrors, due to licensing issues (non-free blob crap) |
| 02:49.52 | zmjjmz | ok |
| 02:50.04 | zmjjmz | what keywords would I be looking for then? |
| 02:51.02 | simonrvn | floppies install etch debian, for example |
| 02:51.07 | zmjjmz | k |
| 02:51.17 | zmjjmz | I think etch would be a lot for this |
| 02:51.20 | zmjjmz | woody? |
| 02:51.40 | simonrvn | etch will work ok on it, unless it's got really low ram |
| 02:52.06 | simonrvn | like 16 or 24.. better to have like 64 or more |
| 02:52.16 | simonrvn | etch's lower limit is 32 i think |
| 02:52.43 | zmjjmz | 48 |
| 02:52.51 | zmjjmz | but I'd still want woody, for speed |
| 02:53.07 | zmjjmz | DSL uses woody, and that's the kind of thing I'm aiming for |
| 02:57.53 | simonrvn | hm ok. well, the woody floppies worked ok from official sources; you could always install from that, then dist-upgrade to sarge. etch is pretty much a 2.6.x dist (not essential, but highly recommended). |
| 02:58.15 | zmjjmz | on something that old |
| 02:58.15 | simonrvn | going that route would be a lot easier. |
| 02:58.21 | zmjjmz | 2.4 would work fine I think |
| 02:59.08 | simonrvn | i've run recent 2.6 on a 7500, an 8500, couple beige g3s, and other machines. |
| 03:00.33 | simonrvn | don't try to run the debian kernels though, the initrd tends to die. |
| 03:01.35 | zmjjmz | oh >.> |
| 03:03.09 | simonrvn | (i say it's because of a lack of attention from better skilled people on ppc, and those that are, get ignored, don't have enough time, or are disliked for stupid reason) |
| 03:03.18 | simonrvn | reasons* |
| 03:03.28 | simonrvn | fun, eh? ;) |
| 03:04.07 | zmjjmz | Would be great if the DSL people made a PPC port :/ |
| 03:05.04 | simonrvn | wouldn't be too hard, there's already a couple of ports extant |
| 03:05.52 | simonrvn | older ubuntu, debian, ydl |
| 03:07.05 | zmjjmz | hm |
| 03:07.41 | simonrvn | ydl is rpm-based ppc linus distro |
| 03:07.45 | simonrvn | linux* |
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| 03:11.06 | zmjjmz | YDL would seem to work |
| 03:11.16 | zmjjmz | but I heard it was slow |
| 03:11.22 | zmjjmz | for something that old |
| 03:12.11 | zmjjmz | though if the repos are large enough |
| 03:12.17 | simonrvn | i didn't like it because of the the defaults |
| 03:12.18 | zmjjmz | you could prolly get rid of e17 |
| 03:12.24 | zmjjmz | and put Fluxbox on |
| 03:12.32 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 03:12.56 | zmjjmz | Ok, I don't know how that PM works :P |
| 03:13.17 | zmjjmz | I've been too lazy to mess with any rpm distros |
| 03:13.59 | simonrvn | i like deb distros better anyway (e.g. package quality) |
| 03:14.26 | zmjjmz | I do too, thus why I don't bother with anything else |
| 03:14.27 | zmjjmz | well |
| 03:14.30 | zmjjmz | Slackware |
| 03:14.36 | zmjjmz | for the older stuff |
| 03:15.32 | simonrvn | i haven't tried stuff like slackware or dsl.. i have tried netbsd. that was fun, albeit a little odd at first. |
| 03:16.09 | zmjjmz | DSL is like a really small Woody distro |
| 03:16.36 | zmjjmz | I've messed with DeLi |
| 03:16.43 | zmjjmz | which is now moving to the Arch thingie |
| 03:16.51 | zmjjmz | Which I've played with before |
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| 11:26.52 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: on hold... been concentrating on getting liquid balance up lately |
| 12:12.49 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: Oh... How are you doing that? |
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| 16:00.34 | Bor_Ed | trying to fit as much brewed beverages down as possible |
| 19:21.11 | bushblows | when setting up an airport extreme on an ibook G4 with debian etch and kernel 2.6.25.7 I use 'bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta.o' and it extracts, but modprobe bcm43xx dosnt work, nor does modprobe b43. |
| 19:21.48 | bushblows | the wl_apsta.o I got off the internet, could it be the wrong version? I have tried mutiple versions, I unfortunatley deleted OS X before I was aware I needed the wireless moduel. |
| 19:21.54 | bushblows | module* |
| 19:26.30 | pahartik | bushblows: I only use Bluetooth for wireless communications, but I guess I could extract firmware from installed "MacOS X 10.4 Tiger" if it is easy... |
| 19:27.51 | bushblows | what hardware is it on? |
| 19:30.27 | pahartik | bushblows: "iBook G4 (late 2004)" or "PowerMacintosh G4 (dual-CPU MDD)"... I think both still have "MacOS X" installed |
| 19:31.21 | bushblows | ah, ya if you dont mind iBook G4 would be perfect. |
| 19:34.50 | pahartik | bushblows: "MacOS X" "/" is now mounted at "/Shared", can you tell me single command to extract firmware? |
| 19:36.26 | bushblows | pahartik: can you actually just host the wl_apsta.o file or send it to me? |
| 19:36.38 | bushblows | I can extract it from their with bcm43xx-fwcutter |
| 19:40.46 | pahartik | bushblows: 'sudo find /Shared -type f -name "wl_apsta.o"' did not find it |
| 19:41.05 | bushblows | hmm |
| 19:44.45 | bushblows | pahartik: maybe try / instead of /Shared? |
| 19:47.19 | pahartik | bushblows: No, I do not intend to boot "MacOS X" at moment, even though I can reliably "suspend-to-disk" "Debian GNU/Linux" and resume after running "MacOS X"... |
| 19:50.22 | bushblows | ah its cool, thank you though. ;) |
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