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| 00:33.27 | Juozapas | hi |
| 00:50.53 | Juozapas | anyoine can help with quik ? |
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| 06:09.29 | sifi | install debian on my iMac but can't get it to boot now. I just get the flashy can't find os icon. My partition has first as apple then second as 1mb with yaboot in it. |
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| 12:37.09 | Bor_Ed | initialize the disk with apple partition map if you want to have clean disk and then just create partitions for linux on the free space left on the disk |
| 12:53.54 | Juozapas | how to install quik ? it always say there isn't mac-formated disk but i create apple_bootstrap partition with mac-fdisk |
| 12:55.03 | Bor_Ed | same answer |
| 12:55.20 | Bor_Ed | there's several partitions quik needs too |
| 12:56.25 | Juozapas | ok, now i have ext2 (100MB) so i think i can create these partitions for quik in that partition ? |
| 12:56.28 | Juozapas | right ? |
| 12:57.37 | Bor_Ed | hmm, been a while when I struggled with quik but it needs the bootstrap and patches partitions at least iirc |
| 12:58.00 | Bor_Ed | would the box happen to be beige g3 by any change? |
| 12:59.29 | Juozapas | i dont understand your last msg |
| 12:59.44 | Juozapas | but i try install quik on powerbook 1400c if u ask that |
| 12:59.50 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 13:00.10 | Bor_Ed | 1400c... isn't that nubus based mac? a sec, I'll try to find out |
| 13:00.25 | Juozapas | i think so |
| 13:00.32 | Juozapas | i use miboot cd |
| 13:00.39 | Juozapas | for debian sarge install |
| 13:00.50 | Bor_Ed | that doesn't support quik at all |
| 13:00.59 | Juozapas | oh ... |
| 13:01.05 | Bor_Ed | http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/ |
| 13:01.18 | Juozapas | strange think but maybe i can use yaboot ? |
| 13:01.20 | Bor_Ed | http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/#booters |
| 13:01.23 | Bor_Ed | more specific... |
| 13:01.49 | Bor_Ed | you need mac OS installed to be able to boot |
| 13:02.16 | Juozapas | really ? i can't have hdd with only linux ? |
| 13:02.47 | Bor_Ed | not as far as I know of |
| 13:02.56 | Juozapas | hm |
| 13:03.20 | Juozapas | i think better option is use miboot cd for each booting |
| 13:03.41 | Bor_Ed | or small mac utils disk partition with mklinux or bootx loader |
| 13:04.06 | Bor_Ed | both tools work as extension to macos so the boot is pretty fast still |
| 13:04.15 | Juozapas | but then i must first install mac os ? |
| 13:04.20 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 13:04.51 | Bor_Ed | 7.5 is available for free from apple site and should work |
| 13:05.07 | Juozapas | and after i create 1 small mac partition |
| 13:05.45 | Juozapas | where install one of these bootloaders, then install debian i can delete mac os (not mac partition with bootloader) partition ? |
| 13:06.03 | Bor_Ed | yup |
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| 13:06.20 | Juozapas | a lot of work :) |
| 13:06.23 | Juozapas | but why not |
| 13:06.26 | Juozapas | ok, thx |
| 13:06.29 | Bor_Ed | though I'd leave whole macos install there since the oldworld boxes tend to break the OF settings every now and then |
| 13:06.32 | Bor_Ed | no prob |
| 13:15.50 | simonrvn | esp. pre- os x, heh |
| 13:16.17 | Bor_Ed | g3 supports osx... and is worst pita imo :D |
| 13:16.46 | Bor_Ed | got it once to boot quik from scsi but went away on next pram borkage |
| 13:16.55 | simonrvn | :( |
| 13:17.09 | Bor_Ed | os9+bootx worked well though |
| 13:17.09 | simonrvn | beige i'm guessing |
| 13:17.17 | simonrvn | yeh, always does =) |
| 13:17.50 | simonrvn | that's what i'm doing for the tower, since i get a DEFAULT CATCH! on it with quik |
| 13:17.54 | Bor_Ed | now all my ppc gear is newworld so no such probs currenly, up to see what uboot or redboot brings when I get some embeddable gear |
| 13:18.19 | simonrvn | we have one newworld, and it's running os 10.3 |
| 13:18.31 | Bor_Ed | thinking of arch change though since arm kurobox seems to have pretty good options over ppc one |
| 13:18.50 | Bor_Ed | gal has imac g3/500 on remote location and it runs 10.4.12 |
| 13:19.04 | simonrvn | and similar in interesting architectural features |
| 13:19.25 | Bor_Ed | arm and ppc are safe on server side since the expoits won't run on 'em |
| 13:19.42 | simonrvn | for instance ;) |
| 13:20.03 | Bor_Ed | that's main reason why I still have ppc as NAT/FW/server |
| 13:20.14 | simonrvn | same |
| 13:20.32 | Bor_Ed | hardware on the other sides is pretty much peecee compatible but the security is big diff |
| 13:21.25 | simonrvn | yeh, it's still more dangerous to have x86 on public machine, even with linux, because of shellcode crap |
| 13:21.26 | Bor_Ed | the price diff between ppc and more powerfull arm ain't that big either currently |
| 13:21.47 | Bor_Ed | shellcode and service expoits, they're both using inline asm |
| 13:22.05 | simonrvn | i run apache on public-accessible machine, so that's a big concern for me |
| 13:22.27 | Bor_Ed | I can imagine that... I just have sshd and ftpd on public access currently |
| 13:22.28 | simonrvn | eyup |
| 13:22.48 | simonrvn | afk |
| 13:22.54 | Bor_Ed | and several clients run bots or bouncers too |
| 13:23.15 | simonrvn | oh yes, bots... |
| 13:23.37 | Bor_Ed | got an eggdrop on this box too, audited _well_ :D |
| 13:24.02 | Bor_Ed | code injects have never worked so far |
| 13:24.53 | simonrvn | nice |
| 13:25.01 | simonrvn | brb, breakkie |
| 13:25.04 | Bor_Ed | later |
| 13:46.10 | simonrvn | 8got me some nummies =) |
| 13:46.21 | Bor_Ed | mmm |
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| 14:45.53 | Bor_Ed | hejsan |
| 14:52.48 | Bor_Ed | whoops, iltaa |
| 15:26.28 | Bor_Ed | re |
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| 22:52.07 | Tenkawa | question all |
| 22:52.41 | Tenkawa | is there a way to run/emulate x86 binaries from an x86 linux box? |
| 22:52.54 | Tenkawa | just want to try to fire up teamspeak somehow |
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| 23:43.42 | GeneralTom | Tenkawa: try qemu. But I cannot say if that works. |
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| 23:47.46 | Juozapas | hi |
| 23:50.14 | Juozapas | can anyone help with bootx on clear partition ? |