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| 17:03.05 | livingdaylight | hi |
| 17:03.43 | livingdaylight | my neighbour has recently acquired an old Mac G3 from his son, with 128mb ram; 9gb hd. He's given me the green light to try to revive the iBook. I'm looking at installing Debian ppc cli and installing E17 on top for X |
| 17:18.11 | pahartik | livingdaylight: Very good |
| 17:18.40 | livingdaylight | pahartik: hi... is that a good solution, yea? good |
| 17:19.33 | livingdaylight | pahartik: i'm just trying to figure out how this is done... reading about Yaboot- i need this it seems? |
| 17:21.41 | livingdaylight | http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ most of the Howto's seem too old and returrn 404 pages |
| 17:22.03 | livingdaylight | one came back but it was in German. Can you recommend me a good Howto ? |
| 17:23.12 | pahartik | livingdaylight: Debian GNU/Linux is fairly easy on NewWorld PowerMacintosh |
| 17:24.19 | livingdaylight | pahartik: can you just talk me through it in broad strokes? |
| 17:24.37 | livingdaylight | do i just go and get the ppc iso and burn to disc? |
| 17:26.45 | pahartik | livingdaylight: Do you know Debian GNU/Linux well already? |
| 17:28.34 | livingdaylight | pahartik: unfortunately not. I'm only familiar with installing Ubntu (so, please don't shoot me) |
| 17:29.19 | livingdaylight | I'm reading the german how to and they say i will need to reinstall mac os? this is true? |
| 17:31.14 | livingdaylight | unlike with other pc's it seems it is not simply a matter of getting your distro of choice and burning iso to disc and booting from disc and following installation instructions |
| 17:49.43 | pahartik | livingdaylight: MacOS is not required to boot Linux on NewWorld PowerMacintosh... Some OldWorld PowerMacintosh models are especially hard to boot without MacOS, so in those cases Linux needs to be booted through MacOS |
| 17:52.37 | mike_xcr | i have question. |
| 17:52.55 | mike_xcr | Leopart good work on PowerBook 17" 1.5GHz? 1GB ram... |
| 18:02.04 | livingdaylight | pahartik: so MacOS is not always required but may be in order to boot and install linux. What if i or my neighbour rather, doesn't have a copy of the os on disc? |
| 18:05.35 | pahartik | livingdaylight: MacOS comes with every Macintosh that has been sold... But if MacOS media is not available, it cannot be installed again... |
| 18:10.14 | livingdaylight | pahartik: i don't doubt that MacOS comes with every Macintosh that is sold. This machine was gifted to my friends son many years ago, when he was a kid still. Its just now come out of the 'attic' figuratively speaking. I'll have to ask but i doubt that the discs are anywhere still around |
| 18:10.55 | livingdaylight | pahartik: if the discs are not to be found, then i have to rely on luck that ppc will install without the need of the old MacOS discs? :/ |
| 18:12.00 | pahartik | livingdaylight: If Linux installer boots and runs fine before installing, it will run fine after installing as well, on same hardware unless hardware is broken |
| 18:23.38 | pahartik | livingdaylight: When installing, have install media of all operating systems one probably wants to use available... With Debian GNU/Linux, some releases are easier on some hardware, so try earlier or later release if first one tried does not work easily... |
| 22:06.51 | mike_xcr | 1st |