| 02:04.04 | *** join/#debianppc wcstok (n=Me@CPE-76-85-130-102.neb.res.rr.com) |
| 05:26.42 | *** join/#debianppc simonrvn_ (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) |
| 06:16.31 | *** join/#debianppc ravenbird (i=ravenbir@unaffiliated/simonrvn/bot/ravenbird) |
| 12:28.42 | *** join/#debianppc GeneralTom (n=MajorTom@p3EE2AB93.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:37.30 | *** join/#debianppc pahartik (i=pahartik@dsl-trebrasgw2-fe47f900-207.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 14:33.51 | *** join/#debianppc GeneralTom (n=General@p3EE2AB93.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:33.07 | *** join/#debianppc Deformati (n=joe@c-68-62-76-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 19:36.49 | *** join/#debianppc livingdaylight__ (n=livingda@77-101-174-180.cable.ubr06.camd.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 19:37.34 | livingdaylight__ | will there be a ppc version of lenny? |
| 19:39.56 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 19:41.42 | livingdaylight__ | kewl... any idea when, roughly, lenny ppc will be out? |
| 19:42.22 | livingdaylight__ | ppc is for iBook G3 500MHz, right? |
| 19:42.58 | Bor_Ed | at the same time as for x86.... and it runs on ibook g3 |
| 19:43.49 | livingdaylight__ | thank you |
| 19:43.55 | Bor_Ed | no prob |
| 19:47.45 | livingdaylight__ | so, if i want ppc i need to get etch for now? |
| 19:49.13 | livingdaylight__ | it doesn't seem that lenny will be ready for the foreseeable future because there are still a lot of release-critical bugs to sort out |
| 19:53.29 | livingdaylight__ | can one upgrade to lenny from etch when lenny is ready? |
| 19:58.29 | livingdaylight__ | :/ |
| 19:59.02 | livingdaylight__ | can someone help me and give me the link for debian ppc? |
| 19:59.43 | livingdaylight__ | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r4a/powerpc/jigdo-cd/ theyre all differnt sizes; can someone help? |
| 20:06.14 | livingdaylight__ | is there a ready debian cd with enlightenment? |
| 20:18.59 | livingdaylight__ | can someone help ? |
| 20:19.29 | livingdaylight__ | when i use netinstall will i be given options for installing Desktop or window manager like Enlightenment? |
| 20:19.55 | livingdaylight__ | i want to install debian ppc using netinstall and install Enlightenment as window manager |
| 20:26.43 | *** join/#debianppc Guest13949 (n=mike@siodemka.p.lodz.pl) |
| 20:45.55 | Bor_Ed | just install basesystem via netinstall and E after that |
| 20:46.27 | livingdaylight__ | right |
| 20:46.47 | livingdaylight__ | apt-cache search enlightenment |
| 20:46.59 | livingdaylight__ | apt-get install <foo> |
| 20:47.07 | livingdaylight__ | ? |
| 20:47.24 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 20:47.33 | livingdaylight__ | Bor_Ed, will E17 be in repos? |
| 20:48.08 | Bor_Ed | e16 at least |
| 20:48.55 | Bor_Ed | libeet-bin - Enlightenment DR17 file chunk reading/writing utility |
| 20:49.28 | livingdaylight__ | Bor_Ed, and do you know post install whether there aer any particular issues i'll need to iron out on an iBook G3? like sound for eg? |
| 20:50.11 | livingdaylight__ | Bor_Ed, there is no java or flash, right? |
| 20:50.31 | livingdaylight__ | icedtea? |
| 20:50.42 | Bor_Ed | naa, dmasound_pmac loaded, java is available from sun and flash via gnash |
| 20:53.23 | livingdaylight__ | doesn't sound too bad |
| 20:53.49 | livingdaylight__ | sun provides java for ppc? |
| 20:53.54 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 20:54.02 | Bor_Ed | ib, does though |
| 20:54.06 | Bor_Ed | ibm |
| 20:54.23 | livingdaylight__ | #ubuntu told me there is no java for linux on apple |
| 20:54.32 | Bor_Ed | bs _:) |
| 20:54.38 | livingdaylight__ | k :) |
| 20:54.59 | livingdaylight__ | from IBM? |
| 20:55.21 | Bor_Ed | yup, a sec |
| 20:55.43 | livingdaylight__ | is there a how-to that i can follow to help setup post-install? |
| 20:55.45 | Bor_Ed | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html there |
| 20:55.52 | livingdaylight__ | thanks |
| 20:56.17 | Bor_Ed | post-install doesn't require much... just install bare basesystem and use aptitude or apt-get to install the rest you want |
| 20:56.57 | livingdaylight__ | k |
| 20:57.02 | Bor_Ed | fyi, g3 is pseries 32 bitter on the ibm site |
| 20:57.17 | livingdaylight__ | oh, thx! |
| 21:18.08 | koan | livingdaylight__: I'm running lenny at the moment on my PowerMac G5 |
| 21:19.01 | livingdaylight__ | koan, kewl... iBook G3 500MHz is not on the same par |
| 21:19.11 | koan | although it's not the stable version yet, it has been running here without problems for some months |
| 21:19.19 | livingdaylight__ | G3 is oldworld, and G5 is newworld? |
| 21:19.52 | koan | if it's an iMac, I think it's NewWorld |
| 21:20.03 | livingdaylight__ | iBook |
| 21:20.34 | livingdaylight__ | koan, i've downloaded and burnt the Etch ppc netinstall to cd now |
| 21:20.54 | livingdaylight__ | but i would've preferred Lenny i suppose |
| 21:21.26 | koan | you can download the lenny iso, sure |
| 21:21.28 | koan | but you can also install etch and then upgrade |
| 21:21.41 | livingdaylight__ | koan, can you give me the link?? :/ i'll give it a whirl |
| 21:25.54 | koan | I don't know it by heart, but it should be somewhere on the download page |
| 21:26.22 | koan | btw, if you want E17, you need lenny: etch only has DR17 |
| 21:28.34 | livingdaylight__ | hrmmm... |
| 21:29.43 | koan | ah here you find the lenny iso's: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 21:30.07 | livingdaylight__ | koan, oh, thx |
| 21:30.08 | koan | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta2/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-LennyBeta2-powerpc-netinst.iso |
| 21:33.33 | livingdaylight__ | koan, thx for the link. I struggle with navigating to the right isos sometimes... |
| 21:34.31 | livingdaylight__ | koan, so, lenny 's been stable enough for you on a G5... |
| 21:34.32 | koan | I had to search a bit, too |
| 21:34.47 | koan | yes |
| 21:36.17 | koan | I installed lenny a few months ago because a lot of packages were getting too old for me |
| 21:36.23 | koan | like Enlightenment |
| 21:36.32 | livingdaylight__ | yea, well that is the problem |
| 21:36.48 | koan | and lenny was then already in pretty good shape |
| 21:37.22 | livingdaylight__ | i installed xubuntu ppc first but a)xfce is too heavy for G3 at 500mhz and b) it was 7.10 which is at least a year old or so, and all the packages were very old indeed |
| 21:38.31 | koan | you can also try a very lightweight window manager like Ion or awesome instead of a full-fledged desktop environment |
| 21:39.10 | livingdaylight__ | enlightenment should be light enough? |
| 21:39.39 | livingdaylight__ | i've never even heard of Ion or awesome |
| 21:40.10 | koan | I haven't run it yet on a G3, but I have it running on a pc with a 500 MHz Via processor, it runs fine there |
| 21:40.25 | livingdaylight__ | this is for a friend of mine actually. And he is not at all computer savvy,so it needs to be fairly noob and user friendly |
| 21:40.36 | koan | ok |
| 21:40.49 | koan | then E17 looks like a fine choice |
| 21:40.57 | livingdaylight__ | oh, good... |
| 21:41.27 | koan | ok, gotta go, good luck :-) |
| 21:42.33 | livingdaylight__ | thx |