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| 11:50.40 | grill | anyone here? |
| 12:05.22 | grill | i have a beige G3 do i have to use woody or can i use the current etch? |
| 12:16.00 | simonrvn | you can use etch |
| 12:16.17 | simonrvn | i used hd-media install method |
| 12:18.54 | grill | i want to use all of the hd for linux and not keep mac os 8.6 |
| 12:27.36 | simonrvn | bit more difficult, since booting from disk is unreliable. sometimes it'll work, sometimes not. |
| 12:27.55 | simonrvn | what srt of beige is it? tower, desktop? |
| 12:27.59 | simonrvn | sort |
| 12:28.48 | simonrvn | this is a firmware/hardware issue, not os issue. |
| 12:32.00 | grill | its the desktop |
| 12:34.25 | grill | this my fist dealings with mac |
| 12:35.11 | simonrvn | how big is that hard drive? |
| 12:35.25 | grill | 4gb |
| 12:37.06 | simonrvn | what you could do is find yourself another bigger drive for linux, and use that one for mock os. or, repartition it and save 3.5 GB for linux and 500 MB for mac os. i'd go route #1, personally, 'cause then you get plenty of space for your home dir. |
| 12:38.28 | grill | i can do that. i have other hard drives |
| 12:39.07 | simonrvn | quik works fine, it's just that a) the firmware is hard wired in, and impossible to replace unless you replace the prom chip that holds it b) there's a bug in the hardware of the ide busses that make it hard to boot anything other than mac os (they patched the firmware so mac os would boot o, working around the bug). |
| 12:39.31 | simonrvn | s/boot o/boot/ |
| 12:39.43 | simonrvn | apt: hush you, bot |
| 12:40.46 | simonrvn | (maybe it's done on purpose - and i'm being paranoid, but whatever...) |
| 12:41.15 | grill | is it gonna be worth it or should i try to a blue and white g3 |
| 12:41.26 | simonrvn | so yeh, as for the .iso, you can get the business card iso or netinst one |
| 12:41.34 | simonrvn | the b&w would be nicer, imo |
| 12:41.42 | grill | this was a free mac so i haven't lost anything |
| 12:41.48 | simonrvn | just make sure you have the latest firmware update |
| 12:42.05 | simonrvn | oh, do you know if it's a rev. a or b b&w? |
| 12:42.39 | grill | dunno |
| 12:42.43 | simonrvn | shoud say at the bottom of the case somewhere, can't recall exactly where. it's on a sticker. |
| 12:43.03 | simonrvn | should* |
| 12:43.20 | grill | okay i will look for it when i go to find one |
| 12:43.31 | grill | what one is better |
| 12:43.37 | simonrvn | max out the ram too. rev. b is |
| 12:44.33 | grill | i have a box full of 100mhz ram from old computers |
| 12:44.37 | simonrvn | there was a bug in the rev. a one that had a hardware bug (too) |
| 12:44.40 | simonrvn | nice |
| 12:44.57 | simonrvn | er, mind my grammar =) |
| 12:46.01 | grill | its a shame this ppc is so hard to work with it looks brand new |
| 12:47.19 | grill | the case has never been opened |
| 12:47.41 | simonrvn | wow |
| 12:48.02 | simonrvn | it's not hard, just gotta work around the poo stuff. works fine otherwise. |
| 12:48.37 | simonrvn | once booted, whichever way that is, it works very well. |
| 12:48.55 | simonrvn | maxxing out the ram is good for it too |
| 12:49.24 | grill | for a 233mhz it seems to run well |
| 12:50.07 | simonrvn | you can overclock it a bit too. not too much; that one probably to 266 or 300 |
| 12:50.35 | simonrvn | there's a couple of charts on the web. |
| 12:50.49 | grill | yes i was looking at that yesterday |
| 12:51.38 | simonrvn | this tower next to me is OCed to 332, it's a 300 |
| 12:51.41 | grill | the 233 has the red jumper box |
| 12:51.51 | simonrvn | ah yes |
| 12:53.21 | grill | i have been reading a learning |
| 12:53.51 | simonrvn | :) |
| 12:56.42 | grill | thank you for your help |
| 12:58.27 | grill | i will max out the ram and put in a 10gb hd before i try to do anything else to this one |
| 12:58.27 | simonrvn | np |
| 12:58.35 | simonrvn | cool |
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