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| 16:00.19 | mike_xcr | installing Debian on PowerBook 17" o/ |
| 16:37.52 | mike_xcr | how i install polish keyboard ? |
| 16:40.37 | simonrvn | !drxx mike_xcr |
| 16:40.40 | ravenbird | mike_xcr: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 16:41.03 | mike_xcr | lenny |
| 16:41.25 | simonrvn | dpkg-reconfigure console-data and console-config (if you installed the latter) |
| 16:42.21 | mike_xcr | simonrvn: in gnome i can't use polish keybord... |
| 16:43.31 | simonrvn | select keyboard under preferences |
| 16:44.02 | mike_xcr | pc / qwerty / Polish ? i can ? |
| 16:45.53 | mike_xcr | simonrvn: i can select pc / qwerty ? if only mac / ... ? |
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| 16:59.48 | simonrvn | do whatever you need |
| 17:04.43 | mike_xcr | i haven't sound :-( |
| 17:06.10 | simonrvn | !audio |
| 17:06.22 | mike_xcr | !sound |
| 17:06.25 | simonrvn | sec |
| 17:09.22 | simonrvn | updating the info ;) |
| 17:10.31 | simonrvn | !+audio |
| 17:10.31 | ravenbird | To configure sound in Debian: first, use modconf to load your driver. Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in. If you don't know what driver to use, start with "lspci -v" - on Macs, you have various options, such as snd_powermac. Install a mixer (e.g. aumix) and make sure the volume is not muted or zero'ed. |
| 17:10.41 | mike_xcr | simonrvn: i know ;-) |
| 17:10.53 | simonrvn | !sound |
| 17:11.49 | simonrvn | updated that too |
| 17:12.42 | mike_xcr | simonrvn: lspci -v don't show audio device :-( |
| 17:13.33 | simonrvn | pastebin that, and drop the -v ok, when you pastebin it. |
| 17:13.46 | mike_xcr | second |
| 17:13.53 | simonrvn | TYT |
| 17:15.14 | mike_xcr | http://pastebin.com/m3e501236 |
| 17:15.24 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 17:15.57 | mike_xcr | i can't change keybord on dpkg-reconfigure console-data: pl / qwerty / Polish ? |
| 17:16.04 | mike_xcr | if only mac / Polish ? |
| 17:16.26 | simonrvn | i dunno, never used a polish kbd, buddy |
| 17:16.44 | mike_xcr | problem is in: "pc" type... |
| 17:16.48 | simonrvn | and yeh, how odd, a missing "multimedia device" |
| 17:16.58 | simonrvn | googles this |
| 17:17.01 | mike_xcr | :) |
| 17:17.27 | simonrvn | once went out with a polish woman, heh |
| 17:17.35 | mike_xcr | ;] |
| 17:19.22 | simonrvn | so did you do # modprobe snd_powermac ? |
| 17:19.58 | simonrvn | IIRC some audio thingies don't show up in lspci |
| 17:20.07 | mike_xcr | null :( |
| 17:20.48 | simonrvn | what do you mean 'null'? |
| 17:21.10 | simonrvn | if it returns exit 0 it means it succeeded ;) |
| 17:21.18 | mike_xcr | command # modprobe snd_powermac return nothing |
| 17:21.39 | simonrvn | that's ok. to check it, do lsmod | less |
| 17:21.53 | simonrvn | er, you left off the # eh? |
| 17:21.55 | mike_xcr | hmm |
| 17:21.58 | mike_xcr | yes |
| 17:22.04 | simonrvn | ok :) |
| 17:22.06 | mike_xcr | second... |
| 17:22.15 | mike_xcr | lsmod | less return line with...: |
| 17:22.45 | mike_xcr | snd_pcm 79876 3 snd_powermac, snd_aoa_12sbus, snd_pcm_oss |
| 17:22.53 | simonrvn | that's fine |
| 17:23.16 | simonrvn | ok, install alsamixer if you don't have it and run that, and turn the sound up |
| 17:23.40 | mike_xcr | hahaha |
| 17:23.41 | simonrvn | and unmute (type m to mute/unmute), like that factoid says |
| 17:23.48 | simonrvn | !+audio |
| 17:23.49 | ravenbird | To configure sound in Debian: first, use modconf to load your driver. Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in. If you don't know what driver to use, start with "lspci -v" - on Macs, you have various options, such as snd_powermac. Install a mixer (e.g. aumix) and make sure the volume is not muted or zero'ed. |
| 17:23.57 | mike_xcr | sound work ;D |
| 17:24.00 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 17:24.07 | mike_xcr | simonrvn: thank you very very much ;-) |
| 17:24.13 | mike_xcr | now install xmms1 ;] |
| 17:24.23 | simonrvn | i remembered that some macs don't have the sound device show up in lspci |
| 17:24.27 | simonrvn | np |
| 17:24.50 | simonrvn | !ibook g4 |
| 17:27.22 | simonrvn | !+ibook g4 |
| 17:27.23 | ravenbird | ibook G4 info: Suspend to ram (aka: sleep) works with the benh patches available at http://gate.crashing.org/~benh/ . The Airport Extreme card does not work, common suggestions are a usb device such as the DWL-122 or MA111. If you're really desperate for an X config try looking at http://linux.nullcode.org/ . see http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ for an AE driver. ask me about <bcm43xx>. |
| 17:27.35 | simonrvn | meh, fixing that ^^^ |
| 17:31.48 | simonrvn | !ibook g4 |
| 17:31.49 | ravenbird | ibook G4 info: Suspend to ram (aka: sleep) works. If you're really desperate for an X config try looking at http://linux.nullcode.org/ . ask me about <bcm43xx>. see: http://gate.crashing.org/~benh/ and http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ |
| 17:32.06 | simonrvn | more up to date ;) |
| 17:33.01 | mike_xcr | more for powerbook g4? ;-) |
| 17:33.30 | simonrvn | !powerbook g4 |
| 17:33.50 | simonrvn | nuttin'. i guess i could add some info |
| 17:33.50 | mike_xcr | !powerbook g4 |
| 17:33.52 | mike_xcr | :) |
| 17:34.09 | simonrvn | !powerbook g4 is <reply>Ask me about <ibook g4> for pointers. |
| 17:34.10 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 17:34.12 | simonrvn | !powerbook g4 |
| 17:34.13 | ravenbird | Ask me about <ibook g4> for pointers. |
| 17:34.28 | mike_xcr | simonrvn: ravenbird goot bot ;-) |
| 17:34.30 | simonrvn | it's a start ;) |
| 17:34.31 | mike_xcr | good * |
| 17:34.48 | simonrvn | i think so ;) |
| 17:36.20 | mike_xcr | osx is good, but Debian is very good ;) |
| 17:40.22 | simonrvn | i like them both, though my preference is a "fuller" unix. osx seems to abstract the unix parts of itself a bit too much in the gui for my taste. |
| 17:41.02 | simonrvn | in / on terminal, it's a different story, it acts very much like its netbsd roots |
| 17:41.06 | Bor_Ed | osx can run X11 too |
| 17:41.13 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 17:41.22 | simonrvn | hey buddy |
| 17:41.32 | Bor_Ed | and via fink, even xfce is installable :D |
| 17:41.34 | Bor_Ed | hola |
| 17:44.14 | simonrvn | is fink still up to date, or are they still lagging? i started using mac or darwin ports instead on the imac |
| 17:44.59 | Bor_Ed | still lagging |
| 17:45.42 | simonrvn | i got stuff like mc installed that way ;) |
| 17:46.01 | simonrvn | (not much else though, the imac's hdd is like 6 GB...) |
| 17:46.12 | simonrvn | and osx is a hog, as you know |
| 17:46.17 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 17:46.27 | Bor_Ed | gal has 10.4.12 on her g3/400 imac |
| 17:47.42 | simonrvn | this one has 10.3.9, no 10.4 cds yet |
| 17:47.43 | Bor_Ed | haven't seen the box in 8 months though and didn't leave sshd on when the box was taken from my joint on the divorce 'fair split of goods' |
| 17:47.43 | simonrvn | mm |
| 17:47.57 | Bor_Ed | it was fine tuned for performance though then |
| 17:48.04 | Bor_Ed | and had classic runtime too |
| 17:48.38 | simonrvn | cool |
| 17:48.55 | Bor_Ed | just needed some fiddling with extensions and conf scripts |
| 17:49.02 | mike_xcr | kadu compiling :) |
| 17:50.21 | simonrvn | yeh classic was easy to get running. already had 9.2.2 installed, so i just copied the running 9.2.2 to the classic partition. |
| 17:51.17 | Bor_Ed | I had to lift runtime from tpb as couldn't install it after osx install... though got recovery dvd for 9.1/10.1 :D |
| 17:52.12 | simonrvn | :) |
| 17:52.35 | Bor_Ed | got the medium so I don't think apple minds :D |
| 17:53.05 | simonrvn | not at all ;p |
| 17:57.21 | Bor_Ed | hmm, pickup soon for my media peecee rig... last peecee I'll have apparently |
| 18:18.01 | mike_xcr | last question ;-) how i do screenshot (gnome of course) |
| 18:20.00 | simonrvn | it has a tool for that |
| 18:44.18 | Bor_Ed | ctrl+printscreen and gimp... or imagemagick package import function |
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| 19:14.15 | mike_xcr | Bor_Ed: i don't have PrintScreen key on my powerbook kbd |
| 19:14.27 | Bor_Ed | ahh, good point |
| 19:15.09 | mike_xcr | so.. any ideas? |
| 19:15.30 | Bor_Ed | imagemagick |
| 19:17.16 | mike_xcr | imagemagick make screenshot? |
| 19:17.56 | Bor_Ed | import -root screenshot.png << or so... can't recall the syntax as I'm full time on console nowadays |
| 19:18.11 | mike_xcr | :) |
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| 19:21.44 | Bor_Ed | got it? |
| 19:22.50 | mike_xcr | import screen.png working |
| 19:23.16 | Bor_Ed | the -root was the root window (desktop) iirc |
| 19:23.40 | mike_xcr | urecognized option '-root' ;] |
| 19:23.49 | Bor_Ed | mmmkay... |
| 19:24.02 | Bor_Ed | well, at least you can take shots now |
| 19:24.38 | mike_xcr | http://img.wklej.org/v/88222screen.png |
| 19:25.26 | Bor_Ed | again... on console, and buggr r128 kernel driver doesn't seem to work even with fbdev today |
| 19:25.40 | Bor_Ed | and as this is server, can't boot on light reasons |
