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| 17:48.35 | MrBIOS | hi folks |
| 17:48.47 | ekl | hi |
| 17:49.32 | MrBIOS | I just performed a successful install of debian on a B&W G3 PPC box, but when it goes to boot, it loads yaboot, succesfully loads the initrd, and then seemingly fails to init the framebuffer properly. I've tried using video=ofonly and video=radeonfb:1024x768 to no avail |
| 17:50.06 | MrBIOS | its definitely loading the kernel off disk...the last thing printed to screen is GMT Delta read from XPRAM: 0 minutes |
| 17:50.13 | Bor_Ed | hmm, b&w g3 has r128 as stock gfx adapter |
| 17:50.25 | MrBIOS | This is a Yosemite G3 |
| 17:50.28 | MrBIOS | no AGP |
| 17:50.32 | MrBIOS | perhaps debian is assuming it is? |
| 17:50.48 | Bor_Ed | motherboard: PowerMac1,1 MacRISC Power Macintosh |
| 17:50.48 | Bor_Ed | detected as: 66 (Blue&White G3) |
| 17:51.04 | Bor_Ed | no idea what this is called... but has rage 128 gfx |
| 17:51.04 | MrBIOS | a few lines above, it does print the kernel command line: root=/dev/hdc4 ro |
| 17:51.37 | MrBIOS | AFAIK the rage128 uses the radeonfb driver |
| 17:52.55 | mike_xcr | (btw, Linux has porting on iPhone and iPod Touch, great message!) |
| 17:53.22 | Bor_Ed | rage128 uses r128 driver, sure not radeonfb... iirc the kernel driver is atyfb |
| 17:54.29 | MrBIOS | got it, it's aty128fb |
| 17:54.53 | MrBIOS | debian bug :) |
| 17:55.28 | Bor_Ed | not really a bug... |
| 17:55.29 | mike_xcr | i think, this isn't bug only in debian |
| 17:56.10 | Bor_Ed | anyway, I didn't have to change the yaboot conf at all after install, worked as-is |
| 17:57.58 | MrBIOS | hm, no dice |
| 17:58.03 | MrBIOS | its definitely a rage128 though |
| 17:58.06 | MrBIOS | card in the machine |
| 18:00.03 | Bor_Ed | that's what I'd say too |
| 18:00.42 | MrBIOS | well it could have been upgraded in the intervening decade ;-) |
| 18:01.56 | Bor_Ed | hardly... apple FCODE is pretty rare on pci cards |
| 18:05.32 | MrBIOS | yes but there are plenty of cheap PCI radeons to be had for under $25 |
| 18:06.00 | Bor_Ed | which all require flashing to run on a mac |
| 18:06.28 | MrBIOS | noi |
| 18:06.37 | MrBIOS | with fcode firmware |
| 18:06.46 | MrBIOS | don't take my word for it, what do I know |
| 18:06.54 | MrBIOS | http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-RADEON-7000-PCI-32MB-VIDEO-CARD-1028550102-Z_W0QQitemZ370115902331QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item370115902331&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting |
| 18:06.58 | Bor_Ed | hmm, not available in here at least |
| 18:07.05 | MrBIOS | that one even has DVI :P |
| 18:07.51 | Bor_Ed | no word if it has FCODE |
| 18:08.35 | MrBIOS | sorry, wrong one: this one does: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350131862742 |
| 18:09.12 | Bor_Ed | yup... and costs as much as this box and 19" screen :) |
| 18:09.50 | MrBIOS | logical fallacy alert |
| 18:10.02 | MrBIOS | that's not what I was disputing ;-) |
| 18:10.12 | Bor_Ed | true |
| 18:10.50 | Bor_Ed | well, my box runs most of the time as headless server so don't have need for beefy gfx anyway |
| 18:11.03 | Bor_Ed | and the stock card decodes dvd movies which is enough for me |
| 18:19.11 | MrBIOS | yup |
| 18:19.22 | MrBIOS | still not getting anywhere with this framebuffer problem |
| 18:19.34 | MrBIOS | debian seems to be the only distro having this issue thus far |
| 18:19.40 | MrBIOS | which is good, means it's at least resolvable |
| 18:19.52 | MrBIOS | I wonder if they're no longer including the aty128fb module |
| 18:20.00 | MrBIOS | in Deb4R5 |
| 18:21.19 | Bor_Ed | I'm running sid and as I said, haven't had such prob with the hardware |
| 18:21.38 | Bor_Ed | CONFIG_FB_ATY128=y |
| 18:21.45 | Bor_Ed | seems to be there on config |
| 18:21.45 | ekl | i put a lenny on a clamshell ibook weeks ago |
| 18:21.50 | ekl | it should be similar |
| 18:22.03 | Bor_Ed | ain't clamshell mach64 based? |
| 18:22.11 | MrBIOS | ah yes, ye olde toilette seatte lappetoppe |
| 18:22.11 | ekl | yes |
| 18:22.18 | ekl | gh |
| 18:22.24 | ekl | it's marvelousss :P |
| 18:22.31 | ekl | only 3kg for a netbook with 1 usb |
| 18:22.41 | ekl | nothing can be better nowdays |
| 18:22.57 | Bor_Ed | I've got 800gr heavy 7" netbook... with 6 hour battery life with wlan on |
| 18:23.29 | Bor_Ed | ordered it directly from china :D |
| 18:23.37 | ekl | Bor_Ed, i got 2 iphones :P.. it's a netbook |
| 18:23.41 | ekl | very expensive, but it is |
| 18:24.00 | Bor_Ed | well yea... I paid 200 eur total with taxes and shipping from the chinese netbook |
| 18:24.11 | ekl | by the way |
| 18:24.21 | ekl | my real laptop is a g4 ibook |
| 18:24.27 | ekl | an12" |
| 18:24.38 | ekl | and i'm not going to get a new one at the moment |
| 18:24.55 | ekl | mainly because of size and missing firewire -.- (no comment about it.) |
| 18:26.17 | Bor_Ed | well, firewire is way faster than usb on external drives... I got only usb external drive adapter but then again, got most of the storage on the server |
| 18:27.18 | pahartik | on the way back to Tampere from "finhack" event at Forssa |
| 18:27.30 | MrBIOS | okay, this is officially maddening |
| 18:27.42 | MrBIOS | it almost seems as if the kernel arguments I give are not being passed off |
| 18:27.45 | MrBIOS | but it *says* they are |
| 18:29.59 | ekl | uhm.. what's missing ? |
| 18:32.38 | MrBIOS | off the drive, it never initializes the video once it does the initial ramdisk load |
| 18:32.50 | MrBIOS | off the friggin' installation CD, everything is muy bueno |
| 18:33.27 | ekl | uhm |
| 18:33.33 | ekl | i had a similar issue with a pismo |
| 18:33.41 | ekl | that should have the same video card |
| 18:33.44 | ekl | is it possible ? |
| 18:33.52 | ekl | aty rage 128, isn't it ? |
| 18:33.55 | ekl | ati |
| 18:33.57 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 18:34.00 | ekl | uhm |
| 18:34.06 | MrBIOS | yes, aty128fb |
| 18:34.19 | ekl | well |
| 18:34.21 | ekl | i MUST work |
| 18:34.25 | ekl | it |
| 18:34.37 | MrBIOS | well guess what, it doesn't! |
| 18:34.47 | ekl | don't know what's wrong, but it have to work |
| 18:34.48 | ekl | just because |
| 18:35.02 | ekl | i did not found a f*cking way to get it to work |
| 18:35.08 | ekl | so, just curious and very nervous |
| 18:35.21 | ekl | put ubuntu ppc on it (their latest official release) |
| 18:35.23 | MrBIOS | no worries :) |
| 18:35.34 | ekl | and it starts, with video and bootsplash too |
| 18:35.40 | ekl | so, it MUST work on debian |
| 18:35.59 | ekl | i still could not find how, but there is a way and i'll find it first or late |
| 18:36.12 | ekl | (don't want to run ubuntu on it) |
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