IRC log for #debianppc on 20081217

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16:07.44AzeazezarCan anyone tell me how to disable my imacs build-in screen and use a external one?
16:07.52AzeazezarCurrently it displays the same on both screens, and i cant use a decent resolution
16:32.31koanwhat does running the xrandr command say Azeazezar ?
16:34.23koanyou can turn off one screen by the commando xrandr --output FOO --off
16:35.01koanyou can find the names of the screens by running xrandr without options
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16:53.58Azeazezarxrandr > Can't open display
16:57.34koanyou are running it in X?
16:59.51Azeazezaryes
17:00.20Azeazezarsorry, i am a newb
17:00.57Azeazezari never actually used linux without X
17:05.22koanand if you run first export DISPLAY=:0 and then xrandr?
17:09.08AzeazezarXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
17:09.08AzeazezarXlib: No protocol specified
17:11.54koanweird
17:12.03koanwhat kind of system is it? debian etch or lenny?
17:12.33Azeazezaretch
17:12.37Azeazezari think
17:13.40koanwhat does cat /etc/debian_version say?
17:14.08Azeazezar4.0
17:14.32koanok that's etch
17:15.19koanis your computer behind a firewall? if so, you can try the commando xhost + and then try xrandr again
17:17.09Azeazezarenterprize:~# xhost +
17:17.09AzeazezarXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
17:17.09AzeazezarXlib: No protocol specified
17:17.09Azeazezarxhost:  unable to open display ":0"
17:17.09Azeazezarenterprize:~# xrandr
17:17.10AzeazezarXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
17:17.12AzeazezarXlib: No protocol specified
17:17.14AzeazezarCan't open display :0
17:18.25koaneuh you don't have to run xrandr as root
17:18.36koanjust run it as a normal user
17:19.17Azeazezarthat worked :)
17:19.53Azeazezarhans@enterprize:~$ xrandr
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17:19.53Azeazezar*0   1024 x 768    ( 271mm x 203mm )  *75
17:19.53Azeazezar<PROTECTED>
17:19.53AzeazezarCurrent rotation - normal
17:19.53AzeazezarCurrent reflection - none
17:19.55AzeazezarRotations possible - normal
17:19.59AzeazezarReflections possible - none
17:20.25pahartikAzeazezar: If you want to run "xrandr" or some X11 client with superuser privileges (if there is real reason to do so), use "sudo"...
17:21.35koanok Azeazezar now try xrandr -q and try to find something like (in my case) DVI-0 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 474mm x 296m
17:21.42Azeazezarok, will do in the future
17:21.49koanthis DVI-0 is the name of one of my screens
17:22.12koanthen pick the right name (of your internal screen) and execute xrandr --output NAME --off
17:23.24koanyour output looks a bit different than mine, I have lenny here with a newer xrandr, but I suppose you can find it
17:26.06Azeazezarwont hat turn off both?
17:26.15koanonly the output NAME
17:26.23Azeazezarthey both display the same
17:26.56koanyes because the standard behaviour is to show the same on both outputs
17:27.28koanbut you can turn off each output individually
17:27.59Azeazezarxrandr --output FOO --on -> will turn it back on right?
17:28.07koanyes
17:28.12koanor xrandr --auto
17:28.53koanactually --on doesn't exist
17:29.07koanit's xrandr --output FOO --auto or just xrandr --auto
17:34.02Azeazezari think my version works differently
17:34.16Azeazezarnot even xrandr --auto does anything
17:34.29Azeazezarit just displays a list of usable commands
17:34.53Azeazezarhans@enterprize:~$ xrandr --auto
17:34.54Azeazezarusage: xrandr [options]
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17:35.41koanhm sorry I haven't a etch system here to test
17:38.13Azeazezarokay, thanks for trying to help :)
17:39.47koanmaybe upgrade to lenny :-)
17:40.15koanI have it running here since August on my G5, works like a charm
17:40.36Azeazezarhow would i do that?
17:40.46Azeazezari have a G3 here
17:41.21koanif it's possible, don't upgrade directly but backup all your files and do a fresh lenny install
17:41.57Azeazezari dont have any files on this comp
17:42.42Azeazezari basicly want to have a backup in case something happens to my pc, and to learn about linux
17:43.08koanwell, then I would install lenny on it
17:43.36Azeazezarand since my pc broke last week... burning disks isnt going to happen
17:45.34Azeazezarcan i update without installation disks?
17:48.14koanyes, but chances are that your system gets broken
17:48.25koanbut if you don't have any documents on it, you have nothing to lose anywat
17:48.28koananyway
17:49.32koanthis is a recent description of how to upgrade: http://www.ducea.com/2008/12/08/howto-upgrade-from-debian-etch-to-lenny/
17:52.26Azeazezarwell, thanks for your help
17:52.34Azeazezaril be back in a couple of hours
17:53.22koanyou're welcome
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19:33.43SweetandyI'm excited - I'm buying an iBook G4 from my ex tomorrow. Putting Debian on it. I already have Debian on a MacMini with a G4 proc... if I have questions about trackpad issues, is this the right place to go?
19:38.53koansure
20:23.58peterrooneySweetandy:  the right place to go for trackpad issues is a 3-button mouse :)
20:35.55simonrvnAzeazezar: sorry i didn't help you yesterday, i got busy with othe thinngs, and forgot :(.
23:11.29Azeazezarno problem, you might be able to help me now
23:11.49Azeazezar:)

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