IRC log for #debianppc on 20090107

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09:45.28ndoodleHi, I hava a slow internet and no sound on debian etch powerpc g4
09:46.03ndoodleDo I need to recompile the kernel?
10:35.59simonrvnmodprobe snd_powermac for sound save snd_powermac to /etc/modules or install modconf. slow internet well, that could be anything....
10:51.24ndoodlethanks
10:58.12simonrvnthe network being slow could be your router needing a kick in the butt, or slow transit times due to network congestion, to a misconfigured network interface.
10:59.14ndoodlei wonder if it's not the default gnome browser?
11:01.18simonrvnepiphany? use the gecko one, the wbkit ones is pretty broken (due to an underlying library, webkit-gtk).
11:01.28simonrvnwebkit one*
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11:40.57ndoodlesimonrvn: I installed firefox using debian-multimedia.org.
11:40.57ndoodleIt still is slow compared to other computer running on same lan
11:40.59simonrvnso probably its network. check the pysical stuff, too. like the eth cable
12:18.03ndoodlendoodle: Can't figure it out
12:19.25simonrvnok, check the routing table(s) (make sure you have just one default route; check via ping, see if it's about the same as the other hosts to ping a remote host;
12:19.35simonrvntraceroute too
12:20.09simonrvnpick a far enough away host, but that has good connectivity to your isp's network
12:30.21ndoodleping and traceroute work well on both machines from the command line
12:31.09ndoodleon etch the gnome interface network tool crashes
12:31.35ndoodleit seems to be a gnome issue
12:44.39simonrvnhm, network manager... often gets in the way. try removing it, restart your x session, and make sure you have relevant stuff in /etc/network/interfaces
13:07.42ndoodlehow do i remove the network manager?
13:16.39ndoodleactually there was no network manager installed...
13:17.02ndoodleinstalled it, no difference, uninstalled it
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13:49.47simonrvnhm ok
13:50.07simonrvndpkg -l '*network*manager*'
13:58.32ndoodlerc network-manager 0.6.4-6
14:03.07ndoodleun network-manager <none>
14:09.08simonrvnok
14:09.40simonrvnso it was there, just got removed, not purged (rc in that means removed, config files remain, like the header says)
14:15.18ndoodlewhat do I do?
14:16.21simonrvnwhat eth device are you using, the onboard? try another NIC, see if it still happens.
14:16.53simonrvnwhat sort of g4 is this?
14:17.05ndoodleapple
14:18.31simonrvnthat doesn't answer my question. do cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i motherboard and paste it in here
14:20.11ndoodlemotherboard : PowerMac6,3 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
14:20.58simonrvnok, what's it say for model?
14:21.46ndoodlecat /proc/cpinfo | grep -i model -> no output
14:22.07ndoodlethat was cpuinfo
14:22.52simonrvnok, NM, just paste the whole thing here :)
14:23.20ndoodleprocessor : 0
14:23.52ndoodlecpu : 7455, altivec supported
14:24.13ndoodleclock : 1249.999995Mhz
14:24.44ndoodlerevision : 0,3 (pvr 8001 0303)
14:25.03ndoodlebogomips : 82.94
14:25.19ndoodletimebase : 41600571
14:25.29ndoodleplatform : PowerMac
14:25.45ndoodlemachine : PowerMac6,3
14:26.19ndoodlemotherboard: PowerMac6,3 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
14:26.56ndoodledetected as : 287 (Flat panel iMac) <- this is right
14:27.12ndoodlepmac flags: 00000010
14:27.28ndoodleL2 cache: 256 unified
14:27.52ndoodlepmac-generation: NewWorld <- this is right
14:27.58simonrvnah ok, one of those flat ppc imacs
14:28.12ndoodleyes
14:28.14simonrvnall white, right?
14:28.19ndoodleyes
14:29.01ndoodlebut not with the hardware in the screen
14:29.05simonrvnhmm, i haven't heard of any issues, or i don't remember any. did you try the debianppc mailing list? debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
14:29.12simonrvnyeh yeh
14:29.26ndoodleno i will
14:29.33ndoodlethanks
14:29.35simonrvnso inserting an extra eth device is out of the question ;)
14:29.40simonrvnhehe
14:30.21Bor_Edbogomips rating seems pretty low on the box... possibly old kernel?
14:30.38ndoodle2002
14:30.44simonrvneven new ones don't do it. at least in .26.*
14:31.03simonrvnhas it been re-fixed then, in .27, .28 ?
14:31.21simonrvnbogomips        : 41.60
14:31.35Bor_Edgot 50 bogos in .26 kernel and 400MHz 750
14:31.38simonrvni don't use debian kernels on my ppc machines
14:31.52simonrvnyes, g3/332 mhz here ^^^
14:32.05Bor_Edg3/300@400 here :)
14:32.22simonrvnit used to work in 2.4 kernels, then it borked.
14:32.59Bor_Edmight try some recent kernel to check out if the stuff is fixed... though won't boot just to check out
14:36.45simonrvnhm, could be that kernel's nic driver is borked too.
14:37.09simonrvnbmac, or sungem, whatever those sorts of imacs use.
14:37.39ndoodleI works fine with mac os x and ubunut 8.04 hardy heron
14:37.54ndoodlethat was It
14:38.18simonrvnok, so i'd change kernel then
14:38.28simonrvnmaybe upgrade to lenny, too
14:38.37simonrvn!etchnhalf
14:39.01simonrvnoh poop
14:39.51ndoodlecan i do that with apt-get and /etc/apt/sources.list
14:39.57simonrvn!etchnhalf
14:39.58ravenbird"etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware.  It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer.  Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf  Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf  See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf
14:40.14simonrvnravenbird: etch->lenny
14:40.16ravenbirdFirst, see <apt-listbugs>.  Next, edit sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny'. Save the file, then update and dist-upgrade. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening.  NOTE: you should be running a 2.6 kernel before trying to upgrade.
14:41.34ndoodleravenbird: how do I read <...> ?
14:41.39ravenbirdno idea, ndoodle
14:41.56simonrvnleave off the <>
14:42.01simonrvnand /msg the bot
14:42.19ndoodleok thanks
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22:22.13ndoodlehi, if the etch does not recognize a network card, what do I do?
22:22.31ndoodleie debian etch
22:25.04simonrvnwhat's lspci show? do lspci | grep -i ethernet
22:30.05ndoodledid you get my answer?
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