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| 08:15.18 | ndoodle | hi, anybody can help with me configure a sungem ethernet card on a imac powerpc g4 |
| 08:15.55 | ndoodle | that was: can anybody help |
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| 10:39.52 | ndoodle | Hi, is it possible to configure a sun gem ethernet card with dhcp on a imac powerpc? |
| 10:47.44 | ndoodle | Do I have to rebuilt the kernal? |
| 11:01.35 | simonrvn | !man interfaces |
| 11:01.39 | ravenbird | For DHCP: auto eth0 (newline) iface eth0 inet dhcp For static: auto eth0 (newline) iface eth0 inet static (newline)(tab) address xx.xx.xx.xx (newline)(tab) netmask nn.nn.nn.nn (newline)(tab) gateway gg.gg.gg.gg, or 'cd /usr/share/doc/ifupdown' and read the docs there |
| 11:01.40 | simonrvn | !interfaces |
| 11:01.46 | simonrvn | !+interfaces |
| 11:01.47 | ravenbird | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. \"man 5 interfaces\" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also \"dhcp client\". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see \"man resolv.conf\" for DNS or ask me about \"static route\" |
| 11:01.54 | simonrvn | ndoodle: ^^^ |
| 11:03.32 | ndoodle | sorry, i am back |
| 11:06.47 | ndoodle | basically i have tried: iface etho inet dhcp /n auto eth0 /n and all other possibilities i have found in /etc/networks/interfaces |
| 11:07.14 | ndoodle | My box has two network cards, one that works with dhcp |
| 11:07.23 | ndoodle | So the client side is ok |
| 11:09.21 | ndoodle | I have added sungem to /etc/modules |
| 11:09.30 | simonrvn | auto eth0 (not o) should be first |
| 11:09.36 | simonrvn | like this: |
| 11:09.43 | simonrvn | auto eth0 |
| 11:09.52 | simonrvn | iface eth0 dhcp |
| 11:10.17 | ndoodle | i put a zero |
| 11:10.25 | simonrvn | then do ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
| 11:10.35 | ndoodle | ok |
| 11:11.33 | ndoodle | it does not get the dhcp lease |
| 11:12.04 | simonrvn | is there a dhcpd listening? |
| 11:12.30 | simonrvn | you might need to configure it more, if there is, like your isp, or your server or router. |
| 11:12.35 | ndoodle | yes i have an other box on the same network from which i write to you |
| 11:13.13 | ndoodle | the other network card on the problem machine works with dhcp |
| 11:13.25 | simonrvn | ok |
| 11:13.56 | simonrvn | try doing it manually, like `dhclient eth0' (no quotes) |
| 11:14.52 | ndoodle | It seems to run the same program and fails |
| 11:15.10 | simonrvn | could you pastebin that? |
| 11:15.23 | ndoodle | yes |
| 11:15.27 | simonrvn | ty |
| 11:15.45 | ndoodle | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.05 | ndoodle | it aborts with No DHCPOFFERS |
| 11:16.11 | simonrvn | i just wnat to see what happens, helps in diagnosis |
| 11:16.16 | simonrvn | ok |
| 11:16.17 | ndoodle | ok |
| 11:16.30 | ndoodle | take a few minites |
| 11:16.47 | simonrvn | when you do ifconfig -a how many ethernet devices do you see? |
| 11:16.50 | simonrvn | np |
| 11:17.01 | simonrvn | pastebin that too, plus a route -n |
| 11:17.18 | simonrvn | !gpm |
| 11:17.20 | ravenbird | if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=msc in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol MouseSystems; seems to work in XF4 too or (see http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=45 also), or try with repeat_type=ms3 and X using Intellimouse, or ask for \"elf gpm\" |
| 11:17.42 | simonrvn | eh, too old... lemme update that |
| 11:18.31 | ndoodle | problem is i do not have network on problem box |
| 11:19.07 | simonrvn | can you access it locally at all? via say ssh ? |
| 11:19.30 | ndoodle | i just need a few minites to switch to the network card that works |
| 11:19.49 | simonrvn | ah, ok. why don't you use that one? ;) |
| 11:20.09 | simonrvn | !gpm |
| 11:20.10 | ravenbird | gpm (General Purpose Mouse) is a package for use of the mouse in a Linux (text-only) console. Install it, then use left button to select text, middle or right button to paste. In some applications (such as elinks), you have to hold down Shift in order to cut or paste, otherwise the app itself interprets the mouse clicks. |
| 11:20.28 | ndoodle | because it is very slow |
| 11:20.46 | simonrvn | understood |
| 11:22.29 | simonrvn | ndoodle: are they both sungem? |
| 11:23.44 | ndoodle | i don |
| 11:23.55 | ndoodle | sorry, i don't think so |
| 11:24.00 | simonrvn | ndoodle: also, eth0 is the first one the system/kernel sees, and that might be the the other, uncofigured one. so you might want to try dhclient eth1 |
| 11:24.24 | simonrvn | ok, so what do you get in lspci for it? |
| 11:25.29 | ndoodle | sungem |
| 11:25.58 | simonrvn | both are? |
| 11:26.30 | ndoodle | well i am know connected to the net, and lspci says sungem |
| 11:26.45 | ndoodle | what is the url of pastbin |
| 11:26.46 | ndoodle | ? |
| 11:26.49 | simonrvn | so both NICs on the imac are sungem |
| 11:26.51 | simonrvn | !paste |
| 11:26.52 | ravenbird | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! you can also /join #flood in your IRC client to paste. |
| 11:27.46 | pahartik | ndoodle: If you configure that network interface manually, with "radvd" or with "avahi-autoipd", does it work then? |
| 11:27.50 | simonrvn | so if so, you can try dhclient eth1, so if that works; if so, change eth0 to eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:28.59 | simonrvn | it's so much easier to do this by looking at the data, instead of asking 50 questions, heh |
| 11:30.45 | ndoodle | pastbin: http://rafb.net/p/A1sUld82.html |
| 11:31.10 | ndoodle | i will try manually |
| 11:31.34 | simonrvn | wth, 404? |
| 11:31.47 | simonrvn | can you paste it at the other one? |
| 11:32.34 | ndoodle | sorry: http://rafb.net/p/A1sULd82.html |
| 11:33.02 | simonrvn | i think it's a server problem, not you |
| 11:33.28 | simonrvn | never mind |
| 11:35.16 | ndoodle | I don't have avahi.. or radvd.. however i read a post saying: |
| 11:35.28 | ndoodle | Default kernel configuration of Build in Ethernet Module is comment out. |
| 11:35.29 | ndoodle | Kernel source description is "# CONFIG_GMAC is not set". |
| 11:35.31 | ndoodle | To use ethernet module installing, or doing, rebuild of kernel is |
| 11:35.32 | ndoodle | necessity. |
| 11:35.53 | simonrvn | ok |
| 11:36.04 | ndoodle | how much work is that? |
| 11:36.09 | simonrvn | you can ask the dpkg bot in #debian on how to do that |
| 11:36.27 | simonrvn | not much, but if it's the first time it can be a bit overwhelming |
| 11:36.47 | ndoodle | is the documentation good? |
| 11:37.15 | simonrvn | i'd say so, lemme find it |
| 11:37.51 | ndoodle | there is a debian manuel on how to build the kernal from source |
| 11:38.06 | simonrvn | so /msg dpkg k-p and start from there. also check http://newbiedoc.berlios.be/ |
| 11:38.23 | simonrvn | kernel, kernal is amiga, heh |
| 11:38.32 | ndoodle | ok |
| 11:38.58 | ndoodle | thanks simonrvn ! |
| 11:39.09 | simonrvn | :) |
| 11:40.17 | pahartik | ndoodle: Wait, you have PowerPC iMac G4, right? |
| 11:40.26 | ndoodle | right |
| 11:40.27 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 11:42.41 | pahartik | ndoodle: Building custom kernel packages is fun, but you could try configuring network interface manually first... |
| 11:43.24 | simonrvn | i'd try the eth1 first... |
| 11:43.45 | ndoodle | pahartik: I have tried. the eth1 works. |
| 11:44.37 | simonrvn | he doesn't want to use that one because it's slow, he says |
| 11:44.43 | simonrvn | pahartik: ^^^ |
| 11:45.21 | ndoodle | It versy slow. Like a backup interface in case the fist fails. |
| 11:45.32 | ndoodle | There is no floppy. |
| 11:45.33 | pahartik | ndoodle: Something like "sudo ip addr add dev br0 fec0::20d:93ff:fe14:a373/64" (and "sudo ip addr add dev br0 fec0::20d:93ff:fe14:a374/64" at remote end), then try to "ping6" either way (yes, my network interface is "br0") |
| 11:46.26 | ndoodle | The probleme is the dhcp |
| 11:46.32 | simonrvn | bridged |
| 11:47.08 | ndoodle | The client does not seem to get a lease from the server which is in the modem |
| 11:47.52 | ndoodle | this works fine with the backup ethernet card. |
| 11:47.55 | pahartik | ndoodle: So manual configuration worked on that network interface too? |
| 11:48.01 | ndoodle | yes |
| 11:48.18 | ndoodle | but no lease |
| 11:48.37 | simonrvn | ok, so do it that way. only reason i mentioned dhcp was because it's - usually - easier to set up. |
| 11:49.08 | simonrvn | if it's causing more problems than it's worth, do it manually, and point your gateway to your router |
| 11:49.23 | simonrvn | that's the what's called static way |
| 11:49.26 | pahartik | ndoodle: Does DHCP server log say anything when client fails? |
| 11:49.36 | ndoodle | but then i need a dns server right? |
| 11:50.03 | simonrvn | /etc/resolv.conf; you can that from the other working machine |
| 11:50.16 | simonrvn | nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 11:50.23 | simonrvn | nameserver yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy |
| 11:50.49 | ndoodle | pahartik: I don't know |
| 11:51.52 | ndoodle | I will look in to it. However, in case the above post is right, |
| 11:52.15 | ndoodle | how much time do you think it will take to compile the kernal? |
| 11:52.24 | ndoodle | newbee, but programmer? |
| 11:52.42 | simonrvn | compile itself not very long |
| 11:53.02 | ndoodle | end to end |
| 11:54.07 | ndoodle | i mean the hole process. setting up the tools, reading the doc, compiling ... |
| 11:56.00 | ndoodle | ok cheers ! |
| 11:56.34 | pahartik | ndoodle: Building custom "linux-image-2.6.28" package takes 720 minutes on my 100 MHz Alpha 21066, about 50 minutes on my 768 MHz dual-CPU PowerPC 7455 |
| 11:58.35 | ndoodle | thanks |
| 11:59.05 | pahartik | ndoodle: And for each kernel revision, it probably takes two or three times to reconfigure and build again until I like it... Later builds are faster, as only modified parts in configuration are compiled again |
| 12:00.06 | ndoodle | each kernel revision, corresponds to a new stable debian release? |
| 12:00.49 | ndoodle | or I you taking about linux kernal? |
| 12:01.06 | simonrvn | kernel, yes |
| 12:01.07 | pahartik | ndoodle: I do not really have slightest idea about what to change in kernel configuration though, if network interface works manually but not with DHCP... |
| 12:01.16 | simonrvn | !dhcp |
| 12:01.17 | ravenbird | hmm... dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol. Ask me about \"dhcp client\". |
| 12:01.21 | simonrvn | ... |
| 12:01.25 | simonrvn | !dhcp client |
| 12:01.27 | ravenbird | To set up a DHCP client in Debian 3.0 and later, edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and put \"auto eth0\" and \"iface eth0 inet dhcp\" in it. Then do \"ifup -a\" or reboot. If you have trouble with 2.4.x kernels, try \"apt-get install pump\" (instead of dhcp-client). In potato, same thing but without \"auto eth0\". see kernel options for dhcp |
| 12:01.43 | simonrvn | !kernel options for dhcp |
| 12:01.44 | ravenbird | Use CONFIG_FILTER (Networking Options -> Socket Filtering) (dhcp-client package requires it) and CONFIG_PACKET (Networking Options -> Packet Socket). If you forgot, you'll have to recompile. CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP should be reserved for special uses like diskless clients: if you asked you don't need it. |
| 12:01.57 | simonrvn | that's too old... updating... |
| 12:03.55 | ndoodle | i keep forgetting that ravenbird is the bot :-) |
| 12:04.26 | ndoodle | no |
| 12:04.32 | ndoodle | confused? |
| 12:04.56 | simonrvn | BTW, debian kernels already have support for it |
| 12:05.05 | simonrvn | dhcp i mean |
| 12:05.19 | ndoodle | BTW is ? |
| 12:05.35 | simonrvn | !btw |
| 12:05.36 | ravenbird | [btw] by the way |
| 12:06.11 | ndoodle | thanks |
| 12:06.33 | ndoodle | I will do some homework, and come back later. |
| 12:06.59 | ndoodle | Thanks a lot simonrvn ! |
| 12:09.22 | ndoodle | thanks a lot pahartik as well! |
| 12:10.29 | simonrvn | good luck |
| 12:11.16 | simonrvn | *sigh* i was hoping he wouldn't go that route, but if it work, so be it. |
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| 17:32.33 | dennis_p | Ever since the dist upgarde to lenny i have no sound on the blue withe powerpc, known problem and sollution? |
| 17:34.21 | simonrvn | kernel, updated too? modprobe snd_powermac |
| 17:34.38 | simonrvn | check alsamixer if it isn't muted |
| 17:37.42 | dennis_p | simonrvn: modprobe returns without error |
| 17:38.16 | simonrvn | as it should if there's no error. check lsmod | grep snd |
| 17:41.07 | dennis_p | simonrvn: http://www.pastebin.cz/14028 |
| 17:41.35 | simonrvn | just say if it's there or not ;) |
| 17:42.31 | simonrvn | it is |
| 17:42.57 | simonrvn | now install alsamixer or use some other app familiar to you to unmute it, if needed |
| 17:43.15 | simonrvn | might want to add snd_powermac to /etc/modules |
| 17:55.28 | dennis_p | simonrvn: I have kmix and all i can hear is a crackle when i toggle Line out |
| 17:55.57 | simonrvn | mute your mic perhaps? |
| 17:58.30 | dennis_p | simonrvn: Mixer slider was turned all the way down in kmix |
| 17:58.37 | dennis_p | have sound now |
| 17:58.55 | simonrvn | :) |
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