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| 05:08.00 | QWonder | hello! |
| 05:08.08 | simonrvn | hi |
| 05:08.42 | simonrvn | welcome |
| 05:08.55 | QWonder | i have an old 700MHz iMac G3 (new world, i guess that's what it's called?) and I need some help getting debain working. I've done a few clean installs of lenny, setup xorg.conf, but then all the gnome applets give me errors when i login and nautilus doesn't work |
| 05:10.40 | QWonder | let me pastebin some logs and configuration files, it's going to take a while, considering now I've screwed all sorts of things up and need to reinstall |
| 05:13.10 | QWonder | guh, stupid mirc |
| 05:19.42 | simonrvn | 'k, afk right now. watching daily show and stuff |
| 05:44.01 | QWonder | should i be using a network mirror? or just let it use the cd? |
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| 07:20.30 | QWonder | alright, so the install is finished and of course xserver doesn't work, so i go add Driver "r128", Option "NoAccel" "true" under device and HoirzSync 58-62 and VertRefresh 75-117 in the monitor section. then i restart gdm |
| 07:20.48 | QWonder | all is good |
| 07:20.50 | QWonder | logging in |
| 07:21.09 | QWonder | ignoring the wrong time dialog |
| 07:22.04 | QWonder | now |
| 07:22.15 | QWonder | 7 gnome applet errors |
| 07:22.19 | QWonder | and one nautilus error |
| 07:23.02 | QWonder | "Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attmpeting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem." I have tried this and it doesn't work |
| 07:23.45 | QWonder | then i get errors about all the applets "The panel encountered a problem while loading "[the applet name here]"" |
| 07:23.59 | QWonder | only it actually says all the applet names |
| 07:24.43 | QWonder | avaha-daemon is eating up 95% cpu usage |
| 07:26.10 | QWonder | so i su, then /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop |
| 07:26.53 | QWonder | "Failed to kill daemon: Timer expired", so i'll just killall then chmod -x |
| 07:27.41 | QWonder | now the computer is much faster |
| 07:29.25 | QWonder | here is my .xsession-errors file: www.pastebin.com/f581387a6 |
| 07:30.14 | QWonder | sorry, .xsession-errors here: http://pastebin.com/f581387a6 |
| 07:31.03 | QWonder | dmesg: http://pastebin.com/f7a62157b |
| 07:31.47 | QWonder | lspci: http://pastebin.com/f1eff38 |
| 07:32.29 | QWonder | lsmod: http://pastebin.com/f250ae6c5 |
| 07:33.24 | QWonder | xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f2a2594b8 |
| 07:33.33 | QWonder | don't know what else you would need, let me know |
| 07:34.55 | QWonder | i'll port forward and setup an account for ssh if that would make things easier, i'd like to see how to fix it so i have screen installed |
| 07:39.48 | QWonder | oh, here is Xorg log: http://pastebin.com/f4aa3728f |
| 07:58.58 | simonrvn | QWonder: the bonobo error is at the BTS |
| 07:59.02 | simonrvn | !bts |
| 07:59.05 | ravenbird | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of sid and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for sid and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges . |
| 07:59.34 | simonrvn | should use the cd |
| 07:59.40 | simonrvn | er, network rather |
| 08:00.06 | simonrvn | QWonder: is this lenny or etch? sounds like etch |
| 08:02.15 | QWonder | it's lenny |
| 08:21.32 | QWonder | SEK:JHU |
| 08:21.34 | QWonder | aes;rhtjfnvue83950r6gnfkjl |
| 08:21.37 | QWonder | unbelievable |
| 08:21.45 | QWonder | APPARENTLY |
| 08:21.50 | QWonder | the date was wrong |
| 08:21.55 | QWonder | and that was the problem |
| 08:22.12 | QWonder | the ONLY thing i did differently was install ntp and sync the time |
| 08:22.18 | QWonder | rebooted and everything works |
| 08:22.32 | QWonder | before this the date was set to 1904 something |
| 08:27.10 | simonrvn | ah yeh. the battery's dead it sounds like. those are cheap to replace. |
| 08:31.21 | QWonder | the year being 1904 breaks all gnome applets and nautilus? |
| 08:32.19 | simonrvn | i doubt it, but might have an influence, but that bonobo thing is what does. the bts has the info on that, like i said. |
| 08:34.56 | QWonder | well, that error is gone |
| 08:35.04 | QWonder | nautilus works fine |
| 08:37.07 | simonrvn | cool |
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| 10:46.06 | QWonder | is there any driver that will run on these old things where i don't need to specify NoAccel, just dragging a window around the screen is slow |
| 10:46.22 | QWonder | it's an ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TR |
| 10:46.49 | simonrvn | i believe that'll do accel. might want to switch it to EXA |
| 10:49.50 | QWonder | EXA? |
| 10:50.40 | QWonder | i know that when i comment out the line, whether i'm using driver "ati" or "r128" i get the same problems where x server starts and cpu usage stays around 95% and it takes forever to get anywhere |
| 10:51.45 | simonrvn | oh yes, that's the XXA crap. i get that too. i have my current xorg.conf public, i'll get you the URL in a mo'. |
| 10:51.58 | simonrvn | eventually that takes down the machine, for me. |
| 10:52.10 | simonrvn | make sure gdm isn't running |
| 10:52.46 | simonrvn | !srs src/xorg/xorg_full_blast_3d_ati_radeon_9k.conf |
| 10:52.47 | ravenbird | http://simonraven.kisikew.org/src/xorg/xorg_full_blast_3d_ati_radeon_9k.conf |
| 10:52.52 | simonrvn | QWonder: ^^^ |
| 10:55.17 | simonrvn | QWonder: the crucial parts are the Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" |
| 10:55.53 | simonrvn | and Option "AGPMode" "4" # though this latter might not be needed on that imac |
| 11:02.44 | QWonder | hmm |
| 11:02.54 | QWonder | i set AccelMethod EXA but it still does the same thing |
| 11:03.00 | QWonder | i'll try AGPMode 4 |
| 11:07.44 | simonrvn | oh, you'll probably have to remove the 12XXx and 11XXx modes too |
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