| 00:29.14 | Mood | JrHacker: i've tried resetting pram, but that didnt' seem to do it. i still got the out-of-range message on my monitor. someone suggested holding down shift to turn off extensions.... i'm about to give that a try |
| 00:32.11 | JrHacker | Mood: alright, I'll see what other suggestions my friend has |
| 00:36.07 | JrHacker | Mood: are you able to boot to MacOS? |
| 00:36.20 | JrHacker | Can you get the openfirmware prompt? |
| 00:36.37 | JrHacker | (talking about the machine itself, without the lcd) |
| 00:48.40 | Mood | JrHacker: i think i can get open firmware prompt. though i can't see it on the screen, i do notice a difference in the way the drive spins when i hit command+option+o+f... |
| 00:49.26 | Mood | perhaps i will try to get the openfirmware and blindly try typing reset-nvram and reset-all. then hard reset to see if it'll do the trick |
| 00:52.18 | JrHacker | Mood: does the comp work with other monitors/screens? |
| 00:56.17 | JrHacker | Mood: when you get to OF prompt, try typing: setenv fb-mode 800x600x32 |
| 00:56.20 | JrHacker | then reset-all |
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| 02:04.22 | Mood | JrHacker: i have a CRT, but unfortunately can't use it w/ the ppc g3 since the monitor has it's own hardwired vga cord (the ppc g3 has a DV15 interface). |
| 02:05.56 | Mood | so now i tried P+R, O+F, shift, and none seem to work. for O+F i tried typing "reset-nvram" and "reset-all". but i haven't tried your suggestion yet. i'll try it now (btw i cannot get the prompt since the screen is blank, but i'll wait for about a minute and blindly type the setenv) |
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| 03:20.42 | Mood | DB15* |
| 04:30.07 | simonrvn | Mood: if it boots to something, you can either use "Boot Variables" (a mac os app), or nvsetenv (Linux) |
| 04:30.17 | simonrvn | or "System Disk" (mac) |
| 05:30.51 | Mood | simonrvn: do you mean i have to boot using a system disk (mac)? |
| 06:19.14 | JrHacker | Mood: guessing the setenv didn't work? |
| 06:19.19 | JrHacker | note |
| 06:33.40 | simonrvn | the app is called "System Disk" |
| 08:17.04 | Mood | JrHacker: nope, setenv didn't work. in fact, when i try to boot into open firmware, i'm uncertain it even goes into open firmware: the keyboard capslock is unresponsive, and when i type "bye" it does not reboot -- which leads me to believe open firmware prompt is not up |
| 08:26.29 | Mood | so i wonder where i can get this "system disk" for powermac g3... the googles doesn't show anything :-( |
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| 12:49.12 | Bor_Ed | Mood: you've got beige g3? OF answers only to serial port on that and can't directly boot linux from OF |
| 16:06.27 | Mood | Bor_Ed: not sure what you mean -- the boot is current from the harddrive, not the serial port. the boot appears different when i try to boot into OF, but it seems unresponsive even though i'm typing blindly |
| 16:06.41 | Mood | currently* |
| 16:25.46 | pahartik | Mood: OpenFirmware on many old systems defaults console to be on serial port, frame buffer and keyboard are not taken to account... |
| 16:27.18 | Mood | pahartik: so does that mean i need to connect an input device to a serial port in order to type OF commands? |
| 16:28.51 | pahartik | Mood: Yes, input and output... Such as another workstation and "cu" or "minicom"... |
| 16:33.57 | Mood | pahartik: i wonder if ssh/telnet are installed by default on os9.x. probably not ssh. but maybe telnet. perhaps i can connect via network |
| 16:36.09 | pahartik | Mood: OpenFirmware does not have TCP/IP stack or telnet daemon or SSH daemon... |
| 16:36.23 | Mood | ack. ok |
| 16:37.23 | pahartik | Mood: "OpenSSH" is part of MacOS X default installation, but not traditional MacOS... And that does not help in this case anyway |
| 16:37.29 | Mood | i guess i'm s!t out of luck then. i can't do anything with this ppc g3 it seems. it's a shame since it boots up nicely. i think the screen frequency just reset to defaults and now i can't get it to work on my LCD :-( |
| 20:28.33 | simonrvn | you can also set in/output to a fb and kbd manually |
| 20:29.58 | simonrvn | like on my beige g3 for instance i have output-device set to screen, and input-device set to kbd |
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| 23:48.40 | homerj | having a problem with the keymap on an iBook G4 |
| 23:49.07 | homerj | caps and ctrl won't swap, xev says they are swapped, but ctrl doesn't actually work |
| 23:57.57 | pahartik | homerj: You swapped with "xmodmap"? |
| 23:58.16 | homerj | yeah |
| 23:58.29 | homerj | I tried just though gnome, and then with xmodmap directly |
| 23:58.56 | homerj | xev reports KeyPress/KeyRelease events for Control_L after I swap |
| 23:59.09 | homerj | but no programs actually register it at a control |