| 10:02.57 | *** join/#debianppc markun (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) |
| 10:03.18 | markun | hi guys, have there been any problems on PPC with kernel 2.6.30 |
| 10:04.09 | markun | I had problems (freezing, processes not starting) but it could be my hardware of course |
| 10:04.19 | markun | this is on an ibook G4 |
| 10:05.35 | Bor_Ed | no such probs on b&w g3 at least |
| 10:05.57 | markun | scary :( I hope it's not giving up on me |
| 10:06.17 | markun | it started by not wanting to return from the screen saver (blank screen) |
| 10:06.38 | markun | I thought I had just forgotten to reboot, but then it didn't want to boot into gnome anymore |
| 10:07.09 | markun | then even 2.6.29 gave me problems, but now it has been working for 12 minutes |
| 10:07.12 | Bor_Ed | sounds like X issue more than kernel |
| 10:07.24 | markun | yes, could be |
| 10:07.42 | markun | I got a kernel panic while X was being started one time |
| 10:07.58 | markun | I was too late to write down what was on the screen (even though it gave me 180 seconds :) |
| 10:08.11 | Bor_Ed | could be buggy kernel driver for framebuffer too... |
| 10:09.35 | markun | I have to finish something for university, so it was pretty stupid to update to the latest unstable, but so far I had had no problems :) |
| 10:11.24 | Bor_Ed | has used latest unstable for close to 10 years now... with 3 major hickups on the route |
| 10:18.42 | markun | Bor_Ed: ok, just crashed again. On another computer now (irssi is running in screen on my server) |
| 10:19.29 | markun | is it easy to downgrade to say last week's unstable? |
| 10:20.00 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 10:20.26 | Bor_Ed | you can try to point the kernel and X versions for the apt but can't recall how it was done in practice |
| 10:21.50 | markun | I didn't pay attention to what was updated today. I think drm was in there. |
| 10:23.05 | markun | wait, I think I was even using testing! I'll check if I get to boot it again. Should aptitude -t unstable safe-upgrade do the trick? |
| 10:24.23 | Bor_Ed | possibly, I use only apt so can't say about those 'smart' tools :) |
| 10:32.52 | markun | Bor_Ed: back in the laptop (but for how long) |
| 10:34.19 | markun | ok, that wasn't very long (crashed again). I did manage to copy the aptiude log file. |
| 10:34.39 | Bor_Ed | that's a start |
| 10:35.37 | markun | Bor_Ed: these are the updates from the last 2 days: http://130.89.160.166/temp/aptitude.txt |
| 10:36.22 | markun | the X updates don't look very major |
| 10:36.36 | markun | xserver-xorg-core 2:1.6.1.901-2 -> 2:1.6.1.901-3 |
| 10:36.50 | Bor_Ed | xserver-core and -common are only ones I could say but those are just rebuilds |
| 10:37.02 | markun | yes, exactly |
| 10:37.26 | markun | maybe it's a heat problem, since the ibook seems to work for a while if I have turned it off for a while |
| 10:37.41 | markun | but when I just reboot after a freeze it will freeze again |
| 10:37.46 | Bor_Ed | could be... open it up and check for the dust |
| 10:44.46 | markun | managed to make a backup of my university stuff.. |
| 10:44.56 | markun | now at least I can continue to work on this computer |
| 10:45.11 | markun | not more than a minute after the backup it froze again :( |
| 10:45.25 | markun | I'll try to open it up later |
| 10:45.45 | Bor_Ed | perhaps better to get the job done first |
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| 11:49.31 | pahartik | markun: Do not forget that PowerMacintosh with built-in IEEE-1394 can act as external harddisk |
| 12:12.40 | markun | pahartik: Ã hadn't thought about that, thanks |
| 13:21.45 | markun | my brother told me it could have been the extra RAM he has installed (it's his ibook), but removing it didn't help. |
| 13:21.54 | markun | I'll keep you guys updated if you want :) |
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| 15:08.20 | markun | we opened up the ibook, and when I power it on the fan doesn't turn. According to my brother it should. |
| 16:32.13 | pahartik | markun: I have never opened up my iBook G4... It was once opened at repair shop though, to replace harddisk and add RAM module |
| 16:34.40 | markun | it was really tricky to open, but my brother works at an apple repair shop. |
| 16:34.53 | markun | I wouldn't have wanted to do it myself |
| 16:35.20 | markun | he's looking for a spare fan at his job now. Hopefully it's just that and not the fan controller :( |
| 16:46.12 | pahartik | markun: Yes... What kind of CPU does your iBook G4 have? |
| 16:48.44 | pahartik | markun: I run 1200 MHz 7447A at half speed and fan rarely spins up |
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| 21:39.03 | markun | pahartik: 1.33GHz, could also run it at half speed |
| 21:39.20 | markun | too bad that it doesn't want to use "on demand" mode |
| 21:48.06 | pahartik | markun: Well, 600 MHz is enough for SD video content... That is most demanding realtime processing requirement I have... So no reason to use higher frequency for me |
| 21:48.48 | markun | pahartik: I've set it to 600 now. I hope it will soon cool down a bit, fan still spinning :) |
| 21:49.12 | markun | ah, just stopped :) |
| 21:50.58 | pahartik | markun: Very good |
| 22:00.07 | markun | pahartik: can you believe it, it just crashed again! |
| 22:07.18 | pahartik | markun: Damn that |
| 22:21.47 | markun | uptime of 21 minutes now, yay :) |
| 22:22.00 | markun | maybe I should buy myself a netbook |
| 22:24.25 | pahartik | markun: Since Apple Computer switched to crappy architecture, I have been looking around for another portable device to eventually replace iBook G4 |
| 22:24.32 | markun | pahartik: and you're right, movies play at 600MHz, thanks |
| 22:25.31 | markun | I wonder if there are ARM based netbooks which can play movies without problems |
| 22:25.44 | markun | and not the nvidia powered ones |
| 22:26.49 | pahartik | markun: Maybe "Always Innovating Touch Book" will be good enough |
| 22:27.15 | markun | the one with the detachable keyboard? |
| 22:27.50 | pahartik | markun: That, yes |
| 22:34.25 | pahartik | markun: Though it seems likely that "Always Innovating Touch Book" will not have IEEE-1394 and localized keyboard, it still is very interesting |
| 22:37.14 | markun | I don't really care for either myself |
| 22:42.49 | pahartik | markun: Main storage is SDHC card (better than MicroSDHC of earlier plans, but CompactFlash would have been even better) |
| 22:48.21 | pahartik | markun: Maybe first user experiences will be heard of within week or two |