| 00:00.00 | kosmos | Is there another way to install debian? |
| 00:00.53 | simonrvn | hd-media, netboot, a number of others... a pb should boot fine from cd (whn it's burned correctly ;P). |
| 00:00.56 | simonrvn | !ig |
| 00:00.57 | ravenbird | The Debian Installation Guide for lenny (5.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for etch (4.0r8) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual . |
| 00:01.00 | kosmos | ...on a pb 1,5Ghz 1,25ram |
| 00:03.50 | simonrvn | hm, seems other people are having a similar issue |
| 00:05.21 | kosmos | I'even zap the pram, but nothing change |
| 00:05.49 | kosmos | I don't tink that's a osx issue |
| 00:06.19 | simonrvn | did you try selecting the cd from the firmware screen you get when you hold the option key? |
| 00:06.47 | kosmos | because I can install other osx os on my pb (exept leopard but I nothing loose) |
| 00:08.15 | kosmos | in target mode? nothing, only a pseudo reboot on the same window |
| 00:08.46 | simonrvn | oh is that what crapple calls it? |
| 00:09.34 | simonrvn | odd. i recenty installed debian lenny (i think .2 or .3) using the xfce iso, on an imac. even using a cd-rw |
| 00:11.02 | kosmos | me too |
| 00:11.14 | kosmos | I've installed the 502 version on a ibook |
| 00:11.42 | kosmos | taht worked fine and the os was ok exept power management and sleep |
| 00:12.20 | kosmos | but on powerbook, even this 502 version gave me : this dis cannot be read, bla bla..." |
| 00:12.46 | kosmos | and the 503 version is absolutely not detectable |
| 00:14.27 | kosmos | ok: for the 502 version I have this message: "This disk you inserted was not readable by this computer", and after the cd is automaticaly ejected. |
| 00:14.31 | kosmos | ! |
| 00:14.47 | kosmos | but on a ibook, the install was ok |
| 00:15.07 | simonrvn | weird |
| 00:15.13 | kosmos | yes |
| 00:28.25 | kosmos | booting from the hard drive doesn't make sense for me, |
| 00:29.30 | kosmos | because I have an expected message: MAC-PARTS: specified partition is not valid and can't OPEN hd:1 yaboot |
| 00:30.11 | kosmos | normal, I'm on a normal HFS Journaled partition (osx) and not on a ext2 one |
| 00:30.51 | kosmos | usb alternative? |
| 00:43.24 | simonrvn | yeh. from a stick, say. |
| 00:49.07 | kosmos | I'm actually do something irrational: |
| 00:51.06 | kosmos | I'm re-installing the original panther os on my pb (instead the black tiger retail cd) to see if I could observe any changes for debian's cd recognition |
| 00:51.27 | kosmos | what a downgrade! |
| 00:53.33 | kosmos | 3 OSes below Snow Leopard |
| 01:00.32 | simonrvn | i tried getting the cd version of 10.4 booted.. no go :(. it sees it properly, boot in os x and linux, but just spits it out. |
| 01:10.29 | kosmos | the results: no change |
| 01:11.01 | kosmos | same issue for the 502 and 503 versions of Debian ppc |
| 01:11.27 | kosmos | same issues on panther and tiger |
| 01:11.56 | kosmos | all that issues occour on last powerbook G4 |
| 01:12.38 | kosmos | ok I have to fly a little bit on my dreams now |
| 01:12.46 | kosmos | bye |
| 01:31.43 | simonrvn | g'night |
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| 12:20.18 | kosmos | hi |
| 12:20.53 | kosmos | I simply cannot install debian ppc on my powerbook g4 |
| 12:21.15 | kosmos | cd of verisions 502 or 503 are not recognized |
| 12:21.57 | kosmos | or if the cd are recognized, then, these cd's cannot be read by the system, even with a free space partition. |
| 12:22.14 | kosmos | booting from HD doesn't work |
| 12:22.35 | kosmos | and I havn't a usb1 for booting from stick |
| 12:22.54 | kosmos | so actually what I can do? |
| 12:22.56 | pahartik | kosmos: If your DVD-ROM drive is not in good shape, use target-disk-mode to install? |
| 12:23.19 | kosmos | yes targe disk mode doesn't work also |
| 12:23.23 | kosmos | target |
| 12:24.17 | pahartik | kosmos: How does it not work? |
| 12:29.41 | kosmos | for example, in target mode if I choose the CDrom, then the page is refreshing on the same configuration, so I have to choose again and again bun nothing happends. |
| 12:30.26 | kosmos | First time I saw that on target mode. |
| 12:30.58 | kosmos | Also I've downgraded from tiger (black retail DVD) to original panther to see if something gonna change. |
| 12:31.07 | kosmos | Nothing changes. |
| 12:31.21 | kosmos | Same issues. |
| 12:31.44 | pahartik | kosmos: "target-disk-mode" is when built-in harddisk of iBook or PowerBook shows up as external IEEE-1394 harddisk to other workstation |
| 12:32.20 | kosmos | When built-in harddisk of iBook |
| 12:39.40 | kosmos | did somebody had experienced the same issues with debian ppc install on pb? |
| 12:41.34 | kosmos | Is the cd install issue could be in relation with these new Verbatim cdroms (8x to 52x writing sped)? |
| 12:41.40 | kosmos | speed |
| 12:44.50 | kosmos | Why on my PB, when insertind the 502 version cd I have the message that I've inserting CD conatining volumes that osx cannot read? |
| 13:12.52 | kosmos | It seems like my cddrive can read several cd or dvd, mostly the embedded ones for different applications but not the CD-R or CD-RW ones. |
| 13:13.30 | kosmos | So that should be an hardware issus and not a debian one. |
| 13:13.37 | kosmos | issue |
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| 16:54.47 | simonrvn | pahartik: i thought so (WRT target disk mode - seemed to me kosmos was using the term improperly) |
| 16:57.10 | pahartik | at local Linux users' meeting |
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| 17:48.32 | simonrvn | sloopy! |
| 17:48.53 | sloopy | hey simon, hows it going? |
| 17:49.01 | simonrvn | purdy good you? |
| 17:49.18 | sloopy | i am alive, doing ok |
| 17:49.27 | simonrvn | :) |
| 17:50.27 | sloopy | this channel isnt as lively as it once was :'( |
| 17:50.43 | simonrvn | nope :/ |
| 17:51.24 | sloopy | damn intel, its all their fault ;') |
| 17:51.36 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 17:52.36 | PovAddict | hi |
| 17:52.53 | PovAddict | I installed Debian on a PowerBook G4; can I make it suspend to RAM or disk when closing the lid? |
| 17:53.07 | simonrvn | i don't know, can you? |
| 17:53.24 | simonrvn | lemme know when you manage to do so. |
| 17:53.35 | PovAddict | :/ |
| 17:54.01 | sloopy | nothing is difficult... just time consuming ;') |
| 17:54.27 | simonrvn | apt-cache search power management |
| 17:56.44 | PovAddict | #debian didn't give me anything useful... they were like "install acpid" (no such thing in powerpc) or "use your desktop's power management prefs" (I have no X installed yet) |
| 17:57.34 | simonrvn | they assume a lot in the #debian chans, like everyone is on x86/amd64 for instance |
| 17:57.49 | PovAddict | or they read too little |
| 17:58.06 | PovAddict | because I *said* I was on a PowerBook :P |
| 17:58.32 | simonrvn | they probably thought pb ~= macbook |
| 17:58.33 | sloopy | they dont understand what a PB is... |
| 17:59.02 | PovAddict | and someone said "power management prefs" and I said "I have no X", and five minutes later I got the same suggestion again :P |
| 18:00.02 | simonrvn | anyway, i think pmud plus some other stuff is what you want, like s2ram or usswap (however it's spelled) |
| 18:00.41 | PovAddict | oh wow, i didn't notice that one in the list (it's specifically for PowerBook, great!) |
| 18:01.41 | PovAddict | *mumble* 4KB/s download |
| 18:02.20 | simonrvn | i blame your isp ;p |
| 18:03.18 | PovAddict | I blame my mirror |
| 18:03.31 | PovAddict | my preferred mirror doesn't carry ppc packages |
| 18:03.56 | simonrvn | ftp.ca.debian.org does |
| 18:04.13 | PovAddict | yeah lots do |
| 18:04.18 | simonrvn | i use that one for all the machines on this lan |
| 18:05.09 | PovAddict | "PMU version 12: iBook/G3 Pismo/G4 Titanium" |
| 18:05.15 | PovAddict | "No sleep support on this hardware, exiting!" |
| 18:05.21 | PovAddict | "daemon stopped (missing sleep support)" |
| 18:05.48 | simonrvn | missing a module probably.. probably just need a modprobe or 2 |
| 18:06.03 | simonrvn | /usr/share/doc/pmud |
| 18:06.03 | PovAddict | should I get something in dmesg if the lid is closed? |
| 18:06.26 | PovAddict | I know on x86 I get an acpi event logged even if I told it to do nothing with that event |
| 18:06.56 | simonrvn | *shrug*. never had a laptop, never mind a ppc one. |
| 18:07.15 | PovAddict | you probably had a power button though :P |
| 18:07.41 | lhx_ | does anyone know why the fonts in gterm suck on ppc distro? |
| 18:07.42 | simonrvn | on the kbd yes |
| 18:08.03 | simonrvn | lhx_: because you have sucky fonts installed? |
| 18:09.44 | PovAddict | pmud docs only talk about battery levels |
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| 18:15.51 | lhx_ | what I don't understand is that in every other program, the fonts look just fine. |
| 18:16.04 | lhx_ | simonrvn: ^^^^^ |
| 18:16.18 | simonrvn | i don't know, i don't use that at all |
| 18:16.27 | lhx_ | k |
| 18:16.45 | simonrvn | i use (u)xterm, Terminal (from xfce), and gnome-terminal |
| 18:20.49 | lhx_ | oops.. that's what i meant by gterm = gnome-terminal |
| 18:22.06 | simonrvn | oh. usually we abbreviate it as g-t around here. looks fine here. i alternately use dejavu sans mono or inconsolata |
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| 20:10.46 | duemme | hi there |
| 20:11.18 | duemme | can someone clarify me some questions? |
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| 20:14.33 | PovAddict | go and ask them |
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