| 00:02.26 | simonrvn | not spanish, no, sorry |
| 00:03.47 | morodo_ibook__ | oki hwto compile a kernel for ibook g4 |
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| 00:16.45 | simonrvn | ravenbird: k-p |
| 00:17.06 | simonrvn | ravenbird: k-p |
| 00:17.16 | ravenbird | simonrvn: Bugger all, I dunno. |
| 00:17.16 | simonrvn | ravenbird: kp |
| 00:17.19 | simonrvn | ravenbird: k-p |
| 00:17.20 | ravenbird | simonrvn: I don't know. |
| 00:17.21 | ravenbird | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(TM): 'aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev'. Follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <kp mantra>. Ask me about <kernel build-deps>. |
| 00:17.22 | ravenbird | simonrvn: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 00:17.29 | simonrvn | morodo_ibook__: ^^^ |
| 00:19.10 | morodo_ibook__ | mmm wehn compile a kernel, i dont work audio |
| 00:19.25 | morodo_ibook__ | mi english is very sou sou |
| 00:20.03 | simonrvn | try `modprobe snd-powermac' |
| 00:20.08 | simonrvn | as root |
| 00:20.30 | morodo_ibook__ | when I compile the kernel and install it works all right unless the audio |
| 00:21.00 | morodo_ibook__ | I think it is not installed the sound card |
| 00:21.34 | morodo_ibook__ | y nose que opcion tengo que tocar cuando compilo el kernel para activar el modulo de audio |
| 00:21.43 | morodo_ibook__ | and nose to touch my options when I compile the kernel to activate the audio module |
| 00:22.22 | morodo_ibook__ | you have any pre-compiled kernel and I can serve? |
| 00:23.19 | simonrvn | do this: modprobe snd-powermac as root |
| 00:23.57 | simonrvn | go to terminal, do su -; then type root password; then type 'modprobe snd-powermac' |
| 00:24.36 | morodo_ibook__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.48 | morodo_ibook__ | escuse me |
| 00:24.50 | morodo_ibook__ | aora myself have said for installed kernel, tomorrow we proved, and will discuss hos |
| 00:25.21 | simonrvn | ok, maybe you should go ask #debian-es as you're not understanding me very well :( |
| 00:25.26 | simonrvn | !es |
| 00:25.28 | ravenbird | es is For Spanish-speaking debian users requiring support, please join #debian-es channel. Para los usuarios debian de habla hispana que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #debian-es |
| 00:27.15 | morodo_ibook__ | tambien estoy en ese canal pero no me contesta nadie |
| 00:27.29 | morodo_ibook__ | I'm also on that channel but no one answers me |
| 00:29.12 | simonrvn | how many people are there? |
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| 15:02.36 | orl_ | Hello ! |
| 15:03.20 | orl_ | I'm experiencing something quite weird and amazing when trying to raw-copy a PPC disk to another similar ones |
| 15:03.27 | orl_ | Would like to know what you think about it. |
| 15:03.31 | orl_ | So, here's the context. |
| 15:03.56 | orl_ | I've been installing a Debian Squeeze PPC version, with an RT kernel, for audio purpose in a sound technician school. |
| 15:04.13 | orl_ | The machine I install is a Imac G5. |
| 15:04.20 | orl_ | iMac G5, sorry. |
| 15:04.46 | orl_ | There are 13 other iMac G5, all purchased at the same date, and which are supposed to be exactly the same; |
| 15:05.16 | orl_ | And I'm supposed to copy the disk of the iMac I installed on every others, so that I don't have to do the installation for all. |
| 15:05.56 | orl_ | Usually, when talking about Mac OS, the school uses the "FireWire disk" mode of the iMac (obtained by pressing T when booting) |
| 15:09.22 | orl_ | Then, they use Disk Utilities (!!) to copy partitions from one to each other. |
| 15:10.11 | orl_ | So I've tried to use this mode too, but using dd |
| 15:10.15 | orl_ | dd /dev/sda /dev/sdX |
| 15:10.24 | orl_ | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdX (sorry) |
| 15:10.47 | orl_ | I thought I would get data transfert around 50Mb/s, but I got 2.7Mb/s |
| 15:10.59 | orl_ | That's the first point I'm wondering about, is this normal? |
| 15:11.25 | orl_ | I don't know exactly what this "FireWire disk" mode is and how it works, but it looks like it's not only presenting the HDD as a FireWire one. |
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| 15:12.12 | morodo_ibook | hellow |
| 15:12.16 | orl_ | Second, when copying that way several PPCs a time (up to 12, I think), I cannot get it working, I get i/o errors, and only one or two finally are still copyying. |
| 15:12.16 | morodo_ibook | hello |
| 15:12.22 | orl_ | hello. |
| 15:12.45 | morodo_ibook | i have a problem wiht kernel 2.6.31-14 |
| 15:12.49 | morodo_ibook | no sound |
| 15:12.55 | morodo_ibook | i have a ibook g4 |
| 15:12.58 | orl_ | On what machien? |
| 15:13.12 | orl_ | Third : I finally managed to copy one to antoher one, and it works. |
| 15:13.23 | morodo_ibook | ibook g4 12" 1,2ghz |
| 15:13.30 | morodo_ibook | 768mb ram |
| 15:13.36 | orl_ | what chipset (audio) |
| 15:14.08 | orl_ | When trying to do the same with two new PPCs, it worked only for the one copied from the "source" PPC, and not for the other one |
| 15:14.34 | orl_ | The copy worked, the partitions are there, and so on, but Mac OS X boots without passing by yaboot! |
| 15:15.10 | orl_ | And it's the case for every PPC I try to copy from a "copy" of the source....... |
| 15:16.04 | morodo_ibook | i dont nw |
| 15:16.17 | orl_ | lspci |grep audio |
| 15:17.02 | orl_ | (I'm afraid I'm the only one to be active there, and I'm not a huge Mac user, but I can try to help) |
| 15:18.31 | morodo_ibook | http://pastebin.com/m2ea88129 |
| 15:19.18 | morodo_ibook | no audio charger |
| 15:19.33 | morodo_ibook | sorry for mi english is very bad |
| 15:20.05 | orl_ | what is your mother tongue (my english is bad too) |
| 15:21.01 | orl_ | Weird. |
| 15:21.16 | orl_ | It seems like you don't have any sound device (if I read well). |
| 15:21.35 | orl_ | Usually, lspci -at least- list the device telling that it's unknown. |
| 15:21.56 | pahartik | morodo_ibook: "snd_powermac" driver module works just fine... |
| 15:22.19 | morodo_ibook | mi language is spanish |
| 15:22.24 | orl_ | OK, I'm french. |
| 15:22.33 | orl_ | OK, the line of your audio device is: |
| 15:22.42 | orl_ | 0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid Mac I/O |
| 15:24.21 | pahartik | orl_: Audio hardware of iBook G4 does not show up on PCI bus... |
| 15:24.39 | orl_ | OK. |
| 15:24.50 | orl_ | that's why. |
| 15:24.57 | orl_ | (I found this line on Debian forums french) |
| 15:25.05 | orl_ | (by the way, I don't know Mac very well) |
| 15:25.23 | morodo_ibook | I tried modprobe does not work snd_powermac and does nothing in the sound preferences I get no sound card |
| 15:25.57 | pahartik | morodo_ibook: Can you access mixer with "alsamixer"? |
| 15:26.09 | orl_ | No, reading some links on the web, it's not sufficient, there are some modules to blacklist too. |
| 15:26.52 | morodo_ibook | no se donde esta alsa-mixer |
| 15:27.00 | morodo_ibook | no where is alsa-mixer |
| 15:27.20 | orl_ | just type alsamixer in a terminal |
| 15:28.16 | orl_ | every links I've read seems to be without a fix in the end....... |
| 15:28.20 | morodo_ibook | yes |
| 15:28.50 | morodo_ibook | if me and none appears set to 0 |
| 15:29.31 | morodo_ibook | the sound card is powermac snnaper |
| 15:29.37 | morodo_ibook | snapper |
| 15:31.06 | orl_ | Personnally, I can't tell you more. It's now out of my skills. |
| 15:32.05 | morodo_ibook | oki thanks |
| 15:32.50 | morodo_ibook | podrias decirme algun sitio para descargar un kernel compilado para mi maquina? |
| 15:33.02 | morodo_ibook | could you tell me some site to download a kernel compiled for my machine? |
| 15:34.10 | pahartik | morodo_ibook: Make sure that "Master" is not muted |
| 15:35.24 | morodo_ibook | no mute |
| 15:38.23 | orl_ | pahartik: it seems to be a "known" bug (I mean it has already been viewed several times |
| 15:38.31 | orl_ | but I only find links in French, actually. |
| 15:38.38 | orl_ | so I don't know if that can help you. |
| 15:39.49 | morodo_ibook | no language problem in french pass me the links if you want I managed to translate |
| 15:39.52 | pahartik | morodo_ibook: Also "Headphone" or "PC Speaker" needs to be unmuted... After that "aplay /bin/sh" should produce some noise... |
| 15:40.36 | morodo_ibook | root@ibook-hackingtools:/home/ibook# aplay /bin/sh |
| 15:40.37 | morodo_ibook | Sonando datos en bruto '/bin/sh' : Unsigned 8 bit, Ratio 8000 Hz, Mono |
| 15:40.41 | morodo_ibook | no sound |
| 15:41.13 | pahartik | morodo_ibook: Which Linux kernel version? |
| 15:41.21 | morodo_ibook | i have a kenerl 2.6.32.7 |
| 15:41.42 | morodo_ibook | compilado por mi y creo que ese es el problem |
| 15:41.55 | morodo_ibook | Mostrar forma romanizada |
| 15:41.56 | morodo_ibook | compiled by me and I think that's the problem |
| 15:42.39 | orl_ | morodo_ibook: http://forum.macbidouille.com/index.php?showtopic=296200 (it's kind of desperate!) |
| 15:43.11 | morodo_ibook | When booting the machine I get several errors, saying they can not load modules, and roms |
| 15:44.51 | pahartik | morodo_ibook: I run custom Linux 2.6.32 on iBook G4 and I do not remember problems with audio output, other than having to reload module after suspend-to-RAM |
| 15:45.55 | morodo_ibook | please send mi your kernel?? |
| 15:46.23 | morodo_ibook | root@ibook-hackingtools:/home/ibook# /etc/rc.d/init.d/snd_powermac start |
| 15:46.23 | morodo_ibook | bash: /etc/rc.d/init.d/snd_powermac: No existe el fichero ó directorio |
| 15:48.21 | pahartik | morodo_ibook: Currently I am using mobile network uplink, but I can make my kernel package available in about 6 hours from now |
| 15:50.53 | morodo_ibook | you can upload it on megaupload please, I would be very grateful |
| 15:51.36 | orl_ | morodo_ibook: it's an error. snd_powermac is a module and shouldn't be started from there. |
| 15:51.41 | morodo_ibook | no tengo prisa cuando puedas |
| 15:51.46 | orl_ | That's what is told a bit later. |
| 15:52.04 | morodo_ibook | not in a hurry when you can |
| 15:52.12 | orl_ | pahartik: why not only the .config? it whould sufficient? |
| 15:53.01 | morodo_ibook | Mostrar forma romanizada |
| 15:53.01 | morodo_ibook | I think esque load the modules, I think the kernel bad ice and I do not load well, but the rest works correctly |
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| 17:32.53 | simonrvn | witf did he do? |
| 17:40.28 | simonrvn | he just had to echo snd-powermac >> /etc/modules; run alsamixer, and he was done |
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