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| 05:43.22 | *** topic/#debianppc is The Debian GNU/Linux PowerPC Port: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ | Debian CDs are not bootable on OldWorld PowerMacs |
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| 15:21.07 | compewter | hey everybody |
| 15:23.00 | compewter | anybody have any experience setting up and using the netboot install>? |
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| 20:49.39 | Conic | Hey guys |
| 20:49.55 | Conic | Installing on a OldWorld, I've gotten the CD to boot, but it doesn't get past select and install software |
| 20:55.15 | Conic | Are there any issues with oldworlds other than booting? |
| 21:05.31 | Bor_Ed | depends pretty much if your hdd is ide or scsi... and the mac models have diffs too |
| 21:05.57 | Conic | The partitions show up as HDx |
| 21:06.00 | Conic | Does that mean IDE? |
| 21:06.22 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 21:06.29 | Conic | Is that good or bad? |
| 21:06.53 | Bor_Ed | depends on model you have |
| 21:07.04 | Conic | G3 wallstreet |
| 21:07.10 | Conic | OldWorld, as I said |
| 21:08.25 | Conic | Aha, I just discovered VT #4 |
| 21:08.31 | Bor_Ed | ahh, haven't used mac lappies... though afaik, wallstreet should work |
| 21:09.32 | Conic | I'll check the log in VT4 this time |
| 21:09.52 | Bor_Ed | :) |
| 21:09.59 | Conic | 233mhz cacheless with ~100MB RAM by the way |
| 21:10.07 | Conic | Running the CLI installer |
| 21:10.51 | Bor_Ed | cli install is only right way to do the thingy |
| 21:11.32 | Conic | whistles |
| 21:11.49 | Conic | I've inherited this thing to play around with it... It amazes me how slow it is |
| 21:12.47 | Bor_Ed | has imac g3/233 with 96M ram next to me... the movie box :) |
| 21:12.57 | Conic | Hah |
| 21:13.05 | Conic | Does it have a cache in the processor? |
| 21:13.33 | Bor_Ed | cpu module has some cache... 256k or so |
| 21:13.37 | Conic | If not... Then we have the same computer, but in different forms |
| 21:13.40 | Conic | Oh well |
| 21:13.44 | Conic | Imagine yours, but slower. |
| 21:14.08 | Conic | Mine's on a list of the top 10 worst Macs ever built. :) |
| 21:14.38 | Bor_Ed | my first mac was 6200/66 |
| 21:15.33 | Bor_Ed | or was it 5xxx... anyway, I've hjad my share of oldworld gear :) |
| 21:15.54 | Conic | This is my first... I've been a Windows guy before I discovered Linux |
| 21:16.09 | Conic | Got it in late 2009, played around with OS8 for a while |
| 21:16.15 | Bor_Ed | best so far has been pmac 4400... google for that, wallstreet is easy |
| 21:16.23 | Conic | Got bored of it, and tried to install Linux - and here I am |
| 21:19.35 | Bor_Ed | pretty much same story for me... though some moons back |
| 21:22.39 | Conic | Oh cool |
| 21:22.44 | Conic | So the kernel is installed in the base system step |
| 21:23.17 | Conic | So if it crashes again, I can reboot and apt-get all I need |
| 21:29.51 | Conic | okay |
| 21:29.54 | Conic | done installing the base system |
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| 21:36.36 | Conic | Seems to die while updating the kernel |
| 21:36.40 | Conic | Think it could be running out of RAM? |
| 21:37.24 | Conic | O_O |
| 21:37.29 | Conic | It got past where it died before. |
| 21:37.38 | Conic | It got to libc6... |
| 21:39.21 | Conic | Okay, weird |
| 21:39.21 | Conic | Configuring `pkgsel` failed with error code 1 |
| 21:39.21 | Bor_Ed | you might want to try install older version as recent ones aren't too happy with OW gear |
| 21:39.21 | Conic | Menu item `pkgsel` failed. |
| 21:39.22 | Conic | okay |
| 21:39.23 | Conic | Well |
| 21:39.25 | adb | Conic, take a look to Alt+ F4 |
| 21:39.37 | Conic | That's what I'm looking at |
| 21:40.08 | Conic | Oooh, cannot umount /target/cdrom/: invalid argument |
| 21:40.33 | adb | ignore it an go further |
| 21:40.48 | adb | and don't run tasksel , too |
| 21:40.52 | Conic | On VT #1 it shows the red screen |
| 21:41.02 | Conic | an installation step failed, etc etc |
| 21:41.09 | adb | ignore it |
| 21:41.28 | Conic | and do what? |
| 21:41.30 | Conic | click continue? |
| 21:41.42 | adb | go back to finish the installation |
| 21:41.51 | Conic | okay |
| 21:42.43 | Conic | Whee... I think it's workin |
| 21:42.47 | Conic | working* |
| 21:43.15 | Conic | Well, it says I'm done |
| 21:43.21 | Conic | Time to copy my kernel into the OS8 system folder |
| 21:44.11 | adb | vmlinuz or so .. |
| 21:44.30 | Conic | vmlinux and initrd.img, right? |
| 21:44.40 | adb | yes |
| 21:44.51 | adb | look in /boot |
| 21:45.22 | Conic | Yeah |
| 21:45.23 | Conic | Done copying |
| 21:45.34 | adb | use a short name |
| 21:45.39 | Conic | I think I'm going to try and reboot now |
| 21:46.04 | Conic | Moment of truth, here we come... |
| 21:46.41 | Conic | It's booting! |
| 21:46.58 | Conic | Yes! I have achieved the impossible! |
| 21:47.12 | adb | win Conic! |
| 21:47.24 | Conic | Waiting for root file system... |
| 21:47.34 | Conic | How... how long should that take? |
| 21:47.47 | adb | ~5sec |
| 21:48.01 | Conic | oops, I need to edit the root= kernel argument |
| 21:48.35 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.40 | Conic | hda9 actually |
| 21:50.04 | Conic | Okay, booting for real this time |
| 21:50.37 | Conic | Okay, it mounte |
| 21:50.38 | Conic | d |
| 21:51.04 | Conic | YES |
| 21:51.09 | Conic | A login prompt! |
| 21:51.21 | Conic | I am in business! |
| 21:51.24 | Conic | Thanks for the help |
| 21:51.37 | adb | congratulate Conic! |
| 21:52.26 | Conic | Which desktop environment would you recommend for a 233mhz cacheless? =P |
| 21:52.39 | adb | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 21:52.46 | adb | Conic, none |
| 21:53.24 | Conic | Huh... Apparently I have 512kb of L2 cache |
| 21:53.29 | Conic | I thought this model had none |
| 21:53.53 | Bor_Ed | xfce |
| 21:54.02 | Conic | I was thinking more along the lines of lxde |
| 21:54.16 | adb | Conic, icewm |
| 21:54.18 | Bor_Ed | ^as desktop |
| 21:54.40 | Conic | Alright |
| 21:54.46 | Conic | Installing sudo then icewm |
| 21:58.11 | adb | aptitude install icewm xorg ssh xvt screen irssi links2 lighttpd rxvt mrxvt |
| 21:59.32 | Conic | If you say so |
| 22:00.01 | adb | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep bogo , says ? |
| 22:00.31 | Conic | bogomips : 33.28 |
| 22:00.37 | adb | ok |
| 22:01.02 | adb | ah, install xinit too |
| 22:01.43 | Conic | doing so |
| 22:02.57 | adb | so to start X , you will run 'startx' |
| 22:03.07 | Conic | yep |
| 22:03.09 | Conic | I know |
| 22:03.41 | Conic | Is there a stopx command? |
| 22:04.05 | adb | ctrl+ Z |
| 22:04.14 | adb | in console |
| 22:11.37 | Conic | Whooo! |
| 22:11.39 | Conic | X works! |
| 22:13.29 | adb | (hopes sound will not .. ;)) |
| 22:14.29 | Conic | How do I check? |
| 22:14.37 | adb | sound ? |
| 22:14.40 | Conic | yeah |
| 22:16.03 | adb | installed lenny ? |
| 22:16.11 | Conic | Yep |
| 22:17.15 | Conic | I'm at the icewm desktop |
| 22:17.17 | adb | "aptitude install alsa-base alsa-utils". After it's installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels. Some applications don't know how to talk directly to ALSA, |
| 22:18.14 | adb | run alsaconf , as root |
| 22:19.25 | adb | alsa checklist |
| 22:19.34 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.27 | Conic | Whooo! Sound works! |
| 22:43.35 | Conic | (I was eating dinner) |
| 22:43.43 | Conic | It didn't take me that long to get it working |
| 22:52.46 | adb | cool |
| 22:54.53 | Conic | CPU usage SPIKES when I just drag a window around, lol |