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| 14:51.06 | pahartik | at local Linux users' meeting |
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| 15:07.25 | Zarb | so can Debian really fun on a Mac G3 ( 333ghz cpu ppc, 128 mb RAM, 6.4 HDD) with open box and run well? what about flash support I heard that it is not good? |
| 15:07.38 | Zarb | I have ran it with gnome = really slow. |
| 15:10.24 | simonrvn | more ram would be good. and yes it can run fine with openbox. |
| 15:10.29 | simonrvn | xfce is ok too |
| 15:21.03 | Zarb | okay, Xfce was kinda slow too.. slower thank osx for me? |
| 15:21.34 | Zarb | I would like to find a lightweight windows manager like openbox , but had a taskbar like thing... know any? |
| 15:22.14 | Zarb | like really really lightweight gui with windows and taskbar , |
| 15:22.43 | Zarb | I am really used to gnome and have been messing with openbox , it's pretty neat.. some people can make it look amazing.. |
| 15:25.19 | simonrvn | apt-cache search panel gtk |
| 15:26.04 | simonrvn | there's like 3 to 5 different lightweight panels you can use. the slowness is likely due to too little real ram, and swapping a lot. |
| 15:26.09 | Zarb | okay, thanks . . I did not think gtk would run well with my specs. but will try |
| 15:26.41 | simonrvn | is this a beige g3? |
| 15:26.44 | Zarb | so what I need is a lightweight panel and windows manager.. |
| 15:26.49 | Zarb | nope, tangerine |
| 15:26.51 | simonrvn | 'window' |
| 15:27.00 | Zarb | lol.. yeah |
| 15:27.02 | simonrvn | ah an imac, 1st gen IIRC |
| 15:27.02 | Zarb | window.. lol |
| 15:27.17 | Zarb | I guess.. I got it at a thrift store for 20 bucks |
| 15:27.24 | Zarb | with osx 10.4 on it.. |
| 15:27.49 | Zarb | I was like.. I bet I could put linux on this thing.. so I tried.. 4 days later.. finally able to do it.. |
| 15:27.53 | simonrvn | with 10.4? nice. get a bigger drive and some pc100 sticks for it. it should be nicer to play with after. |
| 15:29.43 | Zarb | I think it was 10.4 with was at least 10 .. >_< .. I don't really know much about mac.. but I do know it look allot like ubuntu.. |
| 15:30.09 | Zarb | is has a simliar update managar. and I was thinking , why pay? when I can have somethine really close for free.. |
| 15:31.34 | Zarb | the prev owner did not leave his or her password, so I could not install anything on osx.. manly why I install linux on it. |
| 15:32.28 | simonrvn | you can reset both on osx and linux-based. |
| 15:33.06 | Zarb | I tried to look look up how to with out the osx.. b/c I don't have one.. as-is kinda deal. |
| 15:33.36 | simonrvn | with 10.4 it's either in ldap or netinfo (if it is really 10.4) |
| 15:33.37 | Zarb | just the monitor tower thingy.. not keyboard or mouse.. was glad usb 2.0 worked out of the box. |
| 15:33.59 | Zarb | it was upgraded. |
| 15:34.03 | simonrvn | uh, those don't have usb 2.0 |
| 15:34.10 | Zarb | looked like a watered down version of leopard. |
| 15:34.20 | Zarb | well.. usb did work? |
| 15:34.32 | simonrvn | yes, but that's not unusual ;) |
| 15:34.37 | Zarb | I plugged up a dell keyboard and MS mouse and it read it.. |
| 15:35.03 | simonrvn | yeh, they probably went into compatibility mode |
| 15:35.20 | simonrvn | dmesg should tell you |
| 15:36.08 | Zarb | do you think mac os x would work better than linux? should I shell out for osx from ebay? |
| 15:36.24 | Zarb | I know flash does not work, but did not know that when I bought it.. |
| 15:36.31 | simonrvn | work better in what way? |
| 15:36.44 | Zarb | I wanted to fix the comptuer and resell it.. but I don' think that's going to happen.. |
| 15:36.45 | simonrvn | gnash does, (open source flash) |
| 15:37.07 | Zarb | yeah, but it's not that good.. have you used it? it's better than nothing though. |
| 15:37.11 | simonrvn | you wouldn't get more than 100$ for it, maybe 150 |
| 15:37.34 | Zarb | well.. I could settle with 80 , since I only paid 20 for it? |
| 15:37.37 | Zarb | I don' mind.. |
| 15:37.38 | simonrvn | no |
| 15:37.54 | Zarb | huh? |
| 15:38.01 | simonrvn | used gnash |
| 15:38.05 | Zarb | oh |
| 15:38.07 | Zarb | yeah , it' |
| 15:38.21 | Zarb | s a work in progress, but I salute those who use it.. and work on it. |
| 15:38.33 | Zarb | develop it. |
| 15:38.49 | Zarb | so how did you convert to the gospel of linux? |
| 15:39.26 | Zarb | sometimes I look at operating system as religions.. |
| 15:39.30 | Zarb | just making a joke.. |
| 15:39.59 | Zarb | I am very religious person though.. I just think it's so cool that computers are similar to us , in some ways. |
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| 15:44.19 | simonrvn | to me it's a tool. |
| 15:46.13 | simonrvn | i don't have a religion ;) |
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