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| 23:05.18 | gnarface | hey guys i've got an old powerpc (the first of the titanium powerbooks) and i accidentally hosed the console keymap while trying to figure out how to fix it in X (after a squeeze upgrade broke it) |
| 23:05.20 | aiux | gnarface, i had same issues , sometimes , so i make a map , |
| 23:05.52 | gnarface | aiux: yea i've been trying that but i can't figure out how to type console-data without an A key |
| 23:06.10 | gnarface | if i had a mouse at the console it might be useful but i don't |
| 23:06.11 | aiux | i tape all the keyboad key and do that map |
| 23:08.14 | aiux | put it on a paper and translate each keyboard taste .. |
| 23:09.04 | gnarface | but some of the keys aren't there anymore |
| 23:09.07 | gnarface | i tried every one and i can't find A |
| 23:09.38 | gnarface | i think i'm going to have to just re-install |
| 23:09.40 | gnarface | what a waste |
| 23:09.48 | aiux | tryed the Fx key too ? |
| 23:09.56 | gnarface | every key |
| 23:10.32 | aiux | the number pad , Esc , space, + - |
| 23:11.07 | aiux | find the arrows keys ? |
| 23:12.24 | gnarface | i did find the arrow keys |
| 23:12.34 | gnarface | but my command history doesn't have anything useful in it |
| 23:12.38 | aiux | use 'UP keys' , to find old used commands , which contain an 'a' . |
| 23:12.56 | gnarface | yea tried that unfortunately none do. i probably shouldn't have powered it off last night after breaking it |
| 23:14.25 | simonrvn | gnarface: shell history? |
| 23:14.26 | aiux | gnarface, maybe using two key in same time get an A .. |
| 23:26.26 | gnarface | aiux: found a command with TWO a's in it |
| 23:26.30 | gnarface | managed to spell console-data |
| 23:26.33 | gnarface | whew |
| 23:26.40 | gnarface | ok so thanks for that |
| 23:26.44 | gnarface | now the console works |
| 23:26.57 | gnarface | but x still does not |
| 23:28.07 | aiux | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.44 | gnarface | sorry the keyboard in X |
| 23:28.51 | gnarface | so i boot to the non-graphical console |
| 23:28.54 | gnarface | then manually run startx |
| 23:28.57 | gnarface | it starts |
| 23:29.00 | gnarface | mouse works |
| 23:29.03 | gnarface | keyboard does not |
| 23:29.06 | aiux | setxkbmap us |
| 23:29.09 | gnarface | how? |
| 23:29.16 | aiux | in terminal |
| 23:29.22 | gnarface | when i run that BEFORE starting X it says "can't open default display" |
| 23:29.36 | aiux | not as root |
| 23:29.42 | gnarface | and i can't run it AFTER starting X because it's like |
| 23:29.44 | gnarface | no keyboard in x |
| 23:32.00 | aiux | try Xorg -configure |
| 23:33.10 | gnarface | hmm. |
| 23:33.13 | gnarface | the thing is |
| 23:33.18 | gnarface | it was configured right before the last upgrade |
| 23:33.31 | gnarface | what are the chances the keyboard map was right all along and something else is breaking it? |
| 23:34.31 | gnarface | Xorg -configure just crashes |
| 23:35.14 | aiux | ah , i see , your old conf is saved in /etc/X11/xorg.cong.something |
| 23:35.41 | aiux | ls /etc/X11/ < |
| 23:35.46 | gnarface | i see it in there |
| 23:35.49 | gnarface | i put it there myself |
| 23:36.05 | gnarface | what's that got to do with Xorg -configure barfing out a stack trace when i run it though? |
| 23:36.11 | aiux | copy it to xorg.conf |
| 23:36.46 | aiux | forget for moment Xorg -configure |
| 23:37.49 | aiux | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.52 | gnarface | yea i ran Xorg -configure |
| 23:37.56 | gnarface | it made a ~/xorg.conf.new |
| 23:38.03 | gnarface | which fails CATASTROPHICALLY |
| 23:38.18 | gnarface | Xorg -configure barfs a stack trace in the process |
| 23:38.25 | aiux | 01:35<aiux> forget for moment Xorg -configure |
| 23:38.51 | gnarface | i'm confused |
| 23:39.17 | gnarface | oh i see |
| 23:39.27 | gnarface | yea my old one didn't get auto-overwritten |
| 23:39.29 | gnarface | it still works |
| 23:39.33 | gnarface | x starts |
| 23:39.35 | gnarface | looks beautiful |
| 23:39.36 | aiux | ok |
| 23:39.37 | gnarface | mouse even works |
| 23:40.15 | gnarface | if i run xev from my .xinitrc i can even see the keys i pressed when i bail out of x (impossible if it weren't for the "exit" button in my desktop) |
| 23:40.30 | gnarface | but t |
| 23:40.39 | gnarface | but X itself fails to respond to any key presses |
| 23:41.09 | aiux | in a xterminal ? |
| 23:41.18 | gnarface | correct |
| 23:41.26 | gnarface | my desktop theme had a button for terminal too |
| 23:41.28 | gnarface | i open it |
| 23:41.29 | gnarface | mouse over it |
| 23:41.31 | gnarface | press keys like mad |
| 23:41.37 | gnarface | no visual response |
| 23:41.59 | gnarface | everything including the mouse seems to work |
| 23:42.05 | gnarface | the keyboard is just being mysteriously ignored |
| 23:42.09 | gnarface | but ONLY in X |
| 23:42.17 | aiux | check X.0.log |
| 23:42.32 | gnarface | it shows that i have several keyboards |
| 23:42.40 | gnarface | which i do not |
| 23:42.44 | gnarface | it's a mac laptop |
| 23:43.09 | aiux | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.26 | aiux | gnarface, but before install ssh |
| 23:43.49 | aiux | so you can access it remote IF .. |
| 23:45.39 | gnarface | good call |
| 23:47.13 | aiux | which desktop do you use? |
| 23:47.37 | gnarface | e16 |
| 23:47.59 | gnarface | guessing it's an X issue not a WM issue though |
| 23:48.03 | aiux | i don't use it |
| 23:48.33 | aiux | let's see your xorg.conf too , paste it |
| 23:49.18 | gnarface | ok it's the other computer lemme figure out how to do that |
| 23:49.23 | aiux | and which XkbLayout you need ? us i hope |
| 23:49.28 | gnarface | shrug |
| 23:49.30 | gnarface | i think US |
| 23:49.36 | gnarface | that seems to work for the console |
| 23:49.41 | gnarface | it always worked in X before |
| 23:49.50 | aiux | yes, us |
| 23:49.53 | gnarface | lately having bad luck with upgrades |
| 23:50.34 | aiux | gnarface, i donno why they change the xorg.conf .. |
| 23:56.16 | gnarface | xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/2SSgV1C4 |
| 23:57.15 | gnarface | Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/t9qJQC9e |
| 23:58.22 | aiux | <PROTECTED> |