| 01:06.13 | _maniac_ | hello. |
| 01:06.37 | _maniac_ | I've got error intalling debian on powermac: |
| 01:07.15 | _maniac_ | dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: |
| 01:07.50 | _maniac_ | failed to remove my own update file /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0106: No such file or directory |
| 01:08.38 | _maniac_ | it's oldworld machine, so I put installer cd in root of a HFS partition and booted installer with bootx |
| 01:09.17 | _maniac_ | this happened after partitioning, at like 70% of installing packages |
| 01:09.34 | _maniac_ | error text is from syslog output on 4th console |
| 01:09.42 | _maniac_ | any ideas? |
| 01:10.26 | pahartik | _maniac_: You are installing on device with PowerPC 604e and "libc6" is broken since version 2.7 |
| 01:11.10 | pahartik | _maniac_: "device" as in "workstation" |
| 01:11.20 | _maniac_ | wait a sec. |
| 01:12.41 | pahartik | _maniac_: Install older version that has "libc6" 2.3.6 |
| 01:13.09 | _maniac_ | oh, I get it |
| 01:13.23 | _maniac_ | so I just need older install cd to install packages from? |
| 01:15.59 | pahartik | _maniac_: I do not know if latest "libc6" 2.11 works again on PowerPC 604e, I think I tried 2.10 and it did not work either... "libc6" just started breaking strings in random way after some version |
| 01:16.08 | _maniac_ | I'm new to debian, gentoo is my distribution of choice but it will take forever to put it on that machine. |
| 01:16.32 | _maniac_ | um, can I install newer package from network? |
| 01:18.00 | pahartik | _maniac_: It depends |
| 01:19.56 | _maniac_ | well, It installed glibc-2.7, according to /target/var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 01:20.09 | _maniac_ | and I'm using latest debian ppc iso |
| 01:22.44 | pahartik | _maniac_: You can try to fetch and install latest and see if it helps, I refer to document at "http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libc6" |
| 01:26.01 | pahartik | _maniac_: Oh yes, upgrading with "dpkg --install" requires installed system and you probably do not have one yet |
| 01:26.13 | _maniac_ | yes, I dont |
| 01:27.43 | _maniac_ | I'll try to find some smaller debian-based distributions |
| 01:31.49 | pahartik | _maniac_: NetBSD works quite well on OldWorld PowerMacintosh... Even though it is not Debian or Linux |
| 01:32.25 | _maniac_ | well, I want to put tvtuner in that machine and use it as tv box |
| 01:33.25 | _maniac_ | or just but beos there, bt878 worked fine on beos/pc |
| 01:33.31 | _maniac_ | thanks anyway |
| 01:33.33 | _maniac_ | bye. |
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| 04:18.57 | gnarface | http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot |
| 04:19.06 | gnarface | anyone familiar with this? ^^^ dependency based booting? |
| 04:20.25 | gnarface | i'm having trouble with it, and I think it's because i've got stray/obsolete/buggy scripts laying around in my rc?.d directories from dist-upgrades |
| 04:21.50 | gnarface | oddly disabling it in /etc/defaults/rcS doesn't seem to make a difference |
| 04:22.08 | gnarface | but maybe that's because there's no going back? |
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| 05:54.17 | simonrvn | if there's an error in conversion it won't let it happen. you have to fix them first. |
| 06:13.38 | gnarface | but how do i go about that? |
| 06:13.50 | gnarface | how do i go about even figuring out if there was an error? |
| 06:14.11 | simonrvn | dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc |
| 06:25.46 | gnarface | ok |
| 06:26.01 | gnarface | so here's the part where i admit shamefully that i'm not having this problem with a ppc machien actually |
| 06:26.05 | gnarface | it's an x86 machine |
| 06:26.19 | gnarface | and unlike the ppc machine, when i dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc on it, it doesn't do ANYTHING |
| 06:26.27 | gnarface | it appears to succeed without asking any questions |
| 06:26.30 | gnarface | is that abnormal? |
| 06:26.41 | gnarface | i'd ask in #debian but i was banned for being an argumentative drunk :( |
| 06:30.29 | gnarface | does sid on ppc now also use insserv by default? |
| 06:52.48 | simonrvn | squeeze and sid do yes |
| 06:54.32 | simonrvn | and i know about your ban. you should probably ask the op who set the ban to let you back in. thank you for admitting that it's not a ppc issue, but it'd be better if you asked in #debian, since it's not arch-specific. in the meantime, the result of that command depends on whether it's a lenny box or not. |
| 06:55.42 | simonrvn | if you want i can tell him/her that you've behaved like a human being in here. ;) |
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| 07:57.36 | gnarface | simonrvn: i'd greatly appreciate if you passed along your opinion of my cooperativeness. i seem to recall abrotman kicking me out last year around this time too. i have a feeling the real issue is personal. |
| 07:58.14 | gnarface | but either way i'd appreciate you letting me know what exactly i did wrong besides disagreeing with him. |
| 07:58.23 | simonrvn | abrotman never takes thing personally. i've known him for years. |
| 07:58.28 | gnarface | i'm still not quite sure why i got banned either time |
| 07:58.31 | simonrvn | things* |
| 07:58.40 | simonrvn | maybe you forgot? |
| 07:58.53 | gnarface | no i remember the arguments quite well, they're in my chat log |
| 07:59.00 | gnarface | i was -q'd before they happened though |
| 08:00.05 | gnarface | as far as i could tell the only thing i got in trouble for could have been 1) typoing wpa as wep (i know, dumb mistake but i caught myself) or 2) disagreeing with abrotman that it was relevant to ask whether an imac g3 had anything other than 802.11b wifi hardware in it |
| 08:00.23 | gnarface | but themill just pasted my own words back to me and kept saying "you still don't get it" |
| 08:00.26 | gnarface | i actually still don't get it |
| 08:00.27 | gnarface | really |
| 08:00.46 | simonrvn | come over to #debian-offtopic |
| 08:02.07 | simonrvn | if you paste to me what themill was repeating, i can maybe explain it you |
| 08:02.46 | simonrvn | no guarantees though ;p |
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