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| 02:21.23 | Broam | Evening all. Have a G5 here I want to try installing Debian on. I just need the debian-update-5.0.6-powerpc-cd-1.iso right? |
| 02:21.39 | Broam | network's fast enough to get the rest of the packages |
| 02:25.16 | Broam | in that case I'll just do netinstall. |
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| 15:52.28 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: where bootx package hides nowadays? penguinppc doesn't have it :o |
| 15:54.39 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I have at least "Disk Copy image" with it and some Debian GNU/Linux installer kernel... |
| 15:55.06 | Bor_Ed | mind of dropping url? friend needs for 4400 pmac |
| 15:55.55 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: Do you have IPv6? |
| 15:56.02 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 15:56.07 | Bor_Ed | friend doesn't though |
| 15:56.20 | Bor_Ed | and I've got just wcdma link so no real upload capabilities |
| 16:09.03 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: Now my automatic HTTP IPv4 redirection to IPv6 gateway should be in use... "http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/Macintosh/5400.img"... Does it work? |
| 16:10.02 | Bor_Ed | dropped url to friend for fetch |
| 16:11.01 | Bor_Ed | "This webpage has redirect loop" |
| 16:12.00 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: Then it did not work yet, "http://pahartik.iki.fi.ipv4.sixxs.org/~pahartik/Macintosh/5400.img" |
| 16:12.59 | Bor_Ed | I can get over ipv6 too if you drop the gateway and friend can scp from here |
| 16:20.46 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: Trying to solve that problem... |
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| 16:26.19 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: Now it seems like it works, directly for IPv6 and automatically with redirection to IPv6 gateway for IPv4 |
| 16:26.20 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: nalle is the friend with lack of bootx |
| 16:26.40 | Nalle_ | hi |
| 16:26.45 | Nalle_ | Okay, let me try |
| 16:26.47 | Bor_Ed | wget working to here |
| 16:27.18 | Bor_Ed | 80 mins remaining :o |
| 16:29.23 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I implemented automatic HTTP redirection to IPv4-IPv6 gateway today with "nginx", so that my server does not have to transfer almost anything to IPv4 HTTP clients |
| 16:29.55 | Bor_Ed | we'll see if Nalle_ can fetch the thingy |
| 16:30.16 | Nalle_ | No go. It is stuck at waiting for the host to reply :/ |
| 16:30.16 | Bor_Ed | is the kernel in image sarge or lenny? |
| 16:30.39 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: But now I still have to finish it, currently running both "thy" for IPv6 and "nginx" for IPv4 redirection |
| 16:31.34 | Bor_Ed | can't download now with ipv6 (or ipv4) as the the network is pretty much crowded |
| 16:32.30 | pahartik | Nalle_: I think gateway server might fetch whole 32 MiB before serving client |
| 16:32.53 | Nalle_ | Okay, well I'll let it wait then for a while and see what, if anything, happens :) |
| 16:34.59 | pahartik | Nalle_: It probably takes ~320 seconds to transfer, if uplink is not busy with other transfers... Timeout might show up too early |
| 16:35.22 | Nalle_ | I'll leave the olde Mac powered on and running in the mean while. Maybe the battery charges enough so that my co-worker doesn't need to cuda-reset the machine to get it back to life at his place :) |
| 16:36.53 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I do not remember which installer, probably "etch" or older |
| 16:37.32 | Nalle_ | pahartik: bummer, got 504 gateway timed out error :/ |
| 16:37.34 | Bor_Ed | ok, I did dig lenny images already so that's no prob |
| 16:38.15 | Bor_Ed | download started here... but slow |
| 16:39.55 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I do not know if latest "libc6 2.11.2" works with PowerPC 604e, at least anything after latest "libc6 2.3.6" has failed for me |
| 16:40.57 | Bor_Ed | haven't got any ppc gear here currently to confirm that :/ so it's probably safe bet to get sarge instead of lenny? |
| 16:42.27 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I am not sure if PowerPC 603 has that same "libc6" issue... I do not have any, since PowerMacintosh 5500 does not boot |
| 16:42.45 | Bor_Ed | 4400 is 604ev based |
| 16:44.30 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: It is easy to find out, even installer with broken "libc6" fails and gets segmentation faults at random situations |
| 16:44.49 | Nalle_ | 603ev even |
| 16:44.51 | Nalle_ | Not 604 |
| 16:45.00 | Bor_Ed | talk to Nalle_ instead :) he's the one with the install prob :P |
| 16:45.22 | Bor_Ed | was it 603ev? grmbl, been too long since I lost the box |
| 16:45.45 | Nalle_ | Yup |
| 16:46.11 | Nalle_ | Maybe I ought to install debian/ppc to my miggy too so that the 604e in it would have something to do.. :) |
| 16:46.43 | pahartik | Nalle_: Define "miggy" |
| 16:46.53 | Nalle_ | an Amiga 4000 |
| 16:47.02 | Nalle_ | it has a dual-CPU card in it |
| 16:47.08 | Nalle_ | 68k + ppc CPUs |
| 16:47.41 | Nalle_ | The OS runs on the 68k with only some decoders using the PPC for speed-up |
| 16:49.16 | pahartik | Nalle_: Very good |
| 16:52.05 | pahartik | Nalle_: While you are at HTTP client without IPv6, can you access "http://pahartik.iki.fi/" and get redirected to "http://pahartik.iki.fi.ipv4.sixxs.org/"? |
| 16:52.19 | Nalle_ | Lets see |
| 16:52.21 | Nalle_ | Jiffy |
| 16:53.19 | Nalle_ | It is redirecting |
| 16:53.38 | Nalle_ | But the latter address is not responding or atleast taking VERY long time to do so |
| 16:54.41 | Nalle_ | Okay, now it responded and I am at the front page |
| 16:54.44 | Nalle_ | :) |
| 16:55.18 | pahartik | Nalle_: Very good... Then it works as expected |
| 16:56.50 | Bor_Ed | 45 min eta to get the image here... |
| 16:57.00 | Nalle_ | Roger that |
| 16:57.22 | Nalle_ | Sounds like it'll be so late when I finally get it that I'll just burn it to CD and give the co-worker some instructions tomorrow. |
| 16:57.29 | Nalle_ | So he can then play with it during the weekend |
| 16:58.01 | Bor_Ed | complete green to linux and ppc installing himself? :) just warn us about the nick he's using :D |
| 16:58.08 | Nalle_ | :D |
| 16:58.16 | Nalle_ | Yeah, he is a Windows man ;) |
| 16:58.26 | Bor_Ed | geebus! |
| 16:58.42 | Nalle_ | He WAS planning on using an old Athlon, underclocked, as a Linux server but I told him that old PPCs are MUCH better ;) |
| 16:59.01 | Bor_Ed | sure, for end user and power wise :) |
| 16:59.06 | Nalle_ | Indeed |
| 16:59.19 | Bor_Ed | but install... hmm, gonna be long weekend in the chan |
| 16:59.29 | Nalle_ | We'll see |
| 16:59.42 | Nalle_ | He is a smart guy, fellow code monkey |
| 16:59.46 | Nalle_ | I am sure he can manage |
| 17:00.03 | Nalle_ | The tricky bits are messing with the BootX preferences to make it autoboot nicely into Linux |
| 17:00.12 | Bor_Ed | took me 3 days to get first ppc install succesfull |
| 17:00.16 | Nalle_ | and for that, I already relayed the instructions you gave me |
| 17:00.49 | Nalle_ | But yeah, I'll tell him to drop by at our, or this, channel if he needs assistance :) |
| 17:01.22 | Bor_Ed | I've got kids for the weekend so will be more or less MIA |
| 17:01.40 | Bor_Ed | but this chan should have ppl knowing the treat |
| 17:01.49 | Nalle_ | I am sure of that :) |
| 17:02.12 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: Where are you? |
| 17:02.22 | Bor_Ed | koskö, korsholm |
| 17:03.03 | Nalle_ | The place where local folk are too lazy to speak proper swedish ;) |
| 17:03.11 | Nalle_ | snickers |
| 17:03.15 | Bor_Ed | va seijjer du? |
| 17:03.15 | Nalle_ | :D |
| 18:27.48 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: yer sure the .img is ok? 2010-09-28 21:27:32 (0.00 B/s) - Connection closed at byte 33554432. Retrying. |
| 18:28.55 | Bor_Ed | last byte fails to fetch |
| 18:31.33 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: "sha1sum", "c947fa8ece0e8599e3fcbf371fb9bb7753afebbc /home/pahartik/public_html/Macintosh/5400.img" |
| 18:33.51 | Bor_Ed | it's the same in here |
| 18:34.12 | Bor_Ed | still whines about last byte |
| 18:35.31 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: Maybe "thy" has bug |
| 18:36.50 | Bor_Ed | could be |
| 18:38.20 | Bor_Ed | well, enabled the dl for Nalle_ on my box now |
| 18:52.34 | pahartik | Nalle_: NetBSD is also good on OldWorld PowerMacintosh, but more for server situations |
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