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| 06:30.41 | Nalle_ | Morning |
| 06:41.47 | simonrvn | hi |
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| 14:42.48 | grendal_prime | hey guys |
| 14:43.37 | grendal_prime | listen i know this is not ubuntu, and i know the difference between debian and ubuntu. but i cant seem to find anything on how to do what i need to do with this machine. |
| 14:44.24 | grendal_prime | its a mac g4 ppc powerbook. works great accept i cant seem to find anything to enable the nvidia 3d graphix card. |
| 14:45.34 | Bor_Ed | you won't find anything in the future either... nvidia has made sure of that, no released specs so no open drivers |
| 14:46.26 | Bor_Ed | it'll run on 2d with vesa or nvidia driver but you must forget the 3d acceleration |
| 14:51.54 | grendal_prime | damn...i mean i have other machines that run nvidia hardware...it runs great. what happened with them? |
| 14:52.21 | grendal_prime | its it just powerpc? |
| 14:53.31 | grendal_prime | aparently there was support for this card back in version 6.04 of ubuntu. hmmm |
| 15:00.31 | grendal_prime | hey what does this package do nouveau |
| 15:00.31 | grendal_prime | i mean it seems like it would be the missing componant |
| 15:01.10 | grendal_prime | oh nevermind...it says straight up it doesn not support 3d and i should use the nvidia binary driver. that blows. |
| 15:03.23 | Bor_Ed | linux/ppc support has never been on nvidia areas |
| 15:10.07 | grendal_prime | ok well i built this thing for a guy..its not mine. like i say everything seems to work just fine. what would be some recommendations to keep things running smooth..like ummm do you run a desktop and if so what do you run (gnome is kinda sluggish) |
| 15:10.58 | Bor_Ed | xfce is my choice for desktop |
| 15:11.14 | Bor_Ed | light and full desktop instead of just being wm |
| 15:11.45 | Bor_Ed | icewm with some tweaks works too for most |
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| 16:27.44 | simonrvn | nv driver, or nouveau, that's it. |
| 16:40.50 | grendal_prime | simonrvn, wich seems to be fastest for you? |
| 16:41.20 | simonrvn | i don't use them |
| 16:41.34 | grendal_prime | by the way i did find that you can install grease monkey and the youtube downloader so you can directly download mp4 or flv video's that will work for my client basically. |
| 16:41.39 | simonrvn | you'd have better luck with an ati device |
| 16:41.45 | grendal_prime | dont use ither x driver? |
| 16:42.13 | grendal_prime | o, can i put an ati device in this machine? macbook G4? |
| 16:42.26 | simonrvn | no, i don't use them. though nouveau seems not as stable on ppc |
| 16:42.26 | grendal_prime | i just figured it was part of the board |
| 16:42.28 | simonrvn | no |
| 16:42.33 | simonrvn | it's built-in |
| 16:43.23 | grendal_prime | trying to figure out how to tell what its using |
| 16:43.33 | simonrvn | lspci |
| 16:44.08 | grendal_prime | ya i know that its a nividia card, i just dont now much about x...i dont know what driver x is using, and new ubuntu does not use an xorg.conf file |
| 16:44.36 | simonrvn | oh, check the log |
| 16:44.49 | simonrvn | no, new xorg doesn't |
| 16:45.16 | simonrvn | doesn't need it mostly. i still use one, because i like tweaking certain things. |
| 16:45.48 | grendal_prime | ya...kinda werid..so use to messing with that thing..where does it keep that info now days? |
| 16:46.16 | simonrvn | you can generate one if you want, X -configure |
| 16:46.20 | grendal_prime | more importantly is there a way to export it to the xorg.conf file..i know it will use one if there is one. |
| 16:46.43 | simonrvn | then edit that (it'll put it in /root) |
| 16:47.06 | grendal_prime | seems like i tried that and it just barfed |
| 16:47.32 | simonrvn | it exits after it does that, that's normal. |
| 16:48.19 | grendal_prime | ya but never writes anthing..well nothign i can find |
| 16:48.38 | simonrvn | it's in /root, run as root obviously |
| 16:48.51 | grendal_prime | i get a fatal server error server is already active on 0 |
| 16:49.08 | grendal_prime | ya, nothing there.. and ya im running as root |
| 16:49.11 | grendal_prime | ill look at logs |
| 16:49.27 | simonrvn | oh, exit x then ;) |
| 16:49.46 | simonrvn | or do X -configure :1 |
| 16:50.23 | grendal_prime | hmm...ill have to remove gdm, i think in ubuntu it perpetually checks to see if its running. |
| 16:50.50 | grendal_prime | and keeps track of x failures. if it fails to load like 3 times it puts it into low graphix mode..really really low. |
| 16:50.53 | simonrvn | no, just stop via init script |
| 16:51.02 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 16:51.05 | grendal_prime | ill try that |
| 16:51.48 | grendal_prime | im wondering if i uninstall the gnome desktop if that will speed things up in xfce cause i see little diff now |
| 16:52.56 | simonrvn | whatever, up to you |
| 16:54.05 | grendal_prime | i think im going to try it. |
| 16:54.24 | grendal_prime | also maybe try xubuntu desktop, ive here its much better for low mem systems |
| 16:56.18 | grendal_prime | ya see like right now i got a waring about fp hw usages nouveaufb vs offb nvda, display.. it happens when i have screen lockups |
| 16:56.26 | grendal_prime | does that mean its trying to use both? |
| 16:57.54 | grendal_prime | kinda werid |
| 16:58.54 | simonrvn | it'll only use one at a time.. |
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| 17:35.17 | jones_ | a shot in the dark here but, |
| 17:35.51 | jones_ | has anyone here successfully installed Debian to a Powerbook 3400c? |
| 17:36.19 | simonrvn | mailing list maybe (debian-powerpc@l.d.o) |
| 17:36.39 | simonrvn | though some others here might have |
| 17:36.45 | jones_ | thanks |
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