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| 01:48.38 | JoeyA | Is PowerPC a first class citizen in Debian, or has it been marginalized like in other major distros (e.g. Ubuntu, and more recently Fedora) |
| 01:48.44 | JoeyA | ? |
| 01:49.18 | JoeyA | I'm tempted to install it on my eMac (replacing Fedora 12) |
| 02:10.34 | simonrvn | it's better off than in ubuntu or fedora, but it's borderline |
| 02:11.10 | simonrvn | should work ok on that. just be careful of the video, if it's an nvidia. the nouveau driver might not be that great on ppc. |
| 02:11.26 | JoeyA | It's an ATI |
| 02:11.35 | simonrvn | though last i heard anything was like lasy year ;p |
| 02:11.46 | simonrvn | ok, should be fine then. 3d and all |
| 02:11.51 | simonrvn | last* |
| 02:12.12 | JoeyA | someone should detonate some Intel-frying EMPs and make PowerPC more relevant! |
| 02:12.50 | simonrvn | hehe. it is, and some folks are working on some desktop/wkstn machines |
| 02:13.36 | JoeyA | Case in point: my laptop died a couple weeks ago, so I fell back to my eMac. |
| 02:13.57 | simonrvn | emac is a decent machine |
| 02:14.16 | JoeyA | It's had some quirks on the software end, but they're comparable to my (faster) PC from 2002 or so. |
| 02:14.32 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 02:14.49 | JoeyA | After upgrading Fedora 14 (or maybe the problem had existed before and I hadn't triggered it yet), DRI would cut out after about 10 minutes of using gedit. |
| 02:14.59 | JoeyA | as in, I'd get wavy window dragging |
| 02:15.00 | simonrvn | ppc machines with linux like extra ram |
| 02:15.03 | JoeyA | and not the Compiz kind, either |
| 02:15.14 | simonrvn | ooh, eek |
| 02:15.33 | JoeyA | I'm seeing the opposite (though it may be due to a version discrepancy and other issues) |
| 02:15.42 | JoeyA | I'm on 512MB, and it actually runs pretty decently. |
| 02:15.44 | simonrvn | it's possible |
| 02:15.53 | simonrvn | oh, yeh, you'll be ok on that |
| 02:16.14 | JoeyA | The PC also has 512MB, but I get a lot of swapping by comparison. |
| 02:16.34 | simonrvn | yeh, i've noticed |
| 02:16.42 | JoeyA | (though the Intel integrated graphics might be taking a 128MB chunk out of it) |
| 02:16.55 | JoeyA | Dunno, that comp's not on. |
| 02:18.06 | simonrvn | i've got an old amd thunderbird, irongate chipset, with an old ati (64mb), and it swapped a lot with 512 mb |
| 02:18.28 | simonrvn | with ppc i don't get that |
| 02:18.53 | simonrvn | even if i stuff it with daemons |
| 02:19.38 | simonrvn | though the beige g3 could stand to also have its ram maxxed out (768mb) ;) |
| 02:19.54 | JoeyA | nice |
| 02:20.12 | JoeyA | My eMac can hold 1GB. I bought a ram stick for it, but tested it and found it to be bad. |
| 02:20.20 | JoeyA | Too bad memtest86+ doesn't run on PowerPC. |
| 02:20.27 | simonrvn | got an imac, lime, this thing (the amd), and the beige |
| 02:20.49 | simonrvn | there used to be a memtest that worked on ppc |
| 02:21.06 | JoeyA | I wrote a crummy little memory tester that runs on PowerPC: http://cosmos.constellationmedia.com/~funsite/pub/memcheck-0.0.2.tar.bz2 |
| 02:21.10 | simonrvn | it went poof at one point |
| 02:21.27 | JoeyA | It writes a bunch of pseudorandom bytes to memory, then checks them. |
| 02:21.38 | JoeyA | err, that runs on Linux |
| 02:21.44 | simonrvn | that's ok, better than nothing |
| 02:21.45 | JoeyA | It just runs in userspace) |
| 02:21.49 | simonrvn | ok |
| 02:22.05 | JoeyA | But I had a couple RAM modules that memtest86+ caught problems in but my tester did not. |
| 02:22.26 | JoeyA | On the other hand, my tester found a problem with the RAM I bought, trumping Apple Hardware Test. |
| 02:23.15 | simonrvn | heh |
| 02:25.29 | simonrvn | that's pretty good then =) |
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