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| 05:59.32 | daktari | hello |
| 06:00.01 | daktari | anyone available? |
| 06:00.21 | daktari | i'm having a quik problem |
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| 07:32.41 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 07:55.42 | Nalle_ | Morning |
| 09:15.49 | simonrvn | hey |
| 09:54.55 | Nalle_ | Hey simonrvn |
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| 13:56.14 | Peitolm | Q: does anyone know if the PReP partition replaces /boot ? and secondarily if it can be raided? |
| 13:57.51 | daktari | is anyone available? |
| 13:58.48 | Nalle_ | I am here but have no experience of such :) |
| 13:59.04 | daktari | ok |
| 13:59.16 | daktari | i mangled my mac |
| 13:59.19 | daktari | heh |
| 13:59.42 | daktari | luckily i didn't pay anything for it |
| 14:03.12 | Nalle_ | I paid money for my old Macs |
| 14:03.24 | Nalle_ | One is running Linux, one OS X and one MorphOS |
| 14:03.37 | Nalle_ | two new Macs are running OS X |
| 14:03.39 | Nalle_ | :) |
| 14:08.14 | pahartik | daktari: I use "quik" on OldWorld PowerMacintosh |
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| 14:10.06 | daktari | pahartik: i installed it on my G3 and it didn't like it |
| 14:10.17 | daktari | now i can't boot it at all |
| 14:10.42 | daktari | the command option p+r doesn't work either |
| 14:11.38 | Nalle_ | hi pahartik |
| 14:12.33 | Nalle_ | pahartik: I noticed that that came with the 5.0->6.0 upgrade. Does that work? Does it now enable booting directly to Linux even on old world Macs or does it still require the HFS partition with BootX ? |
| 14:15.26 | pahartik | Nalle_: "quik" is for OldWorld PowerMacintosh only |
| 14:18.32 | pahartik | Nalle_: On NewWorld one can use "grub-ieee1275" or "yaboot", I have used "grub-ieee1275" for year or two |
| 14:26.21 | Nalle_ | pahartik: well I have the old G3 machine.. |
| 14:33.07 | pahartik | Nalle_: "quik" does not need HFS |
| 14:38.56 | daktari | well i'm guessing i'm screwed |
| 14:42.25 | Nalle_ | pahartik: Hmm.. I guess I could give it a try then |
| 14:42.47 | Nalle_ | Would make the booting and kernel updating process so much smoother |
| 14:45.34 | daktari | It does not work on systems that do not have Open Firmware; older PowerPC hardware based on the NuBus architecture must boot into the Mac OS first and then use a separate boot loader |
| 14:46.03 | daktari | i'm guessing mine doesn't have OF... |
| 14:46.06 | Nalle_ | This is a PCI G3 Mac with OF |
| 14:46.40 | daktari | well you can prolly use it then |
| 14:46.48 | daktari | looks like i wasn't supposed to |
| 14:46.54 | Nalle_ | http://apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=g3&sort=date&performa=off&order=ASC |
| 14:46.57 | Nalle_ | That one |
| 14:48.53 | Nalle_ | Maybe I'll look into it then |
| 14:49.15 | Nalle_ | Though as mine is a server, I am a bit touchy on fixing somethign taht is not broken |
| 14:49.22 | Nalle_ | :) |
| 14:49.36 | daktari | good point |
| 14:56.41 | daktari | mine says |
| 14:57.26 | daktari | can't OPEN: /pci/mac-io/ide@20000/ata-disk@0:0 |
| 14:57.38 | daktari | and it repeats over and over |
| 14:58.18 | daktari | i need to know if there's a way to put the original bootloader back on it |
| 15:05.57 | pahartik | daktari: Boot with traditional MacOS installer CD-ROM |
| 15:13.33 | daktari | tried that |
| 15:39.36 | pahartik | daktari: By using "bye" at OpenFirmware? |
| 16:16.56 | Peitolm | does anyone know if I can boot off an LVM partition? or do i need to split out /boot? |
| 16:20.43 | pahartik | Peitolm: Separate "/boot/" filesystem is good solution for that |
| 16:21.58 | Peitolm | lets see if the installer works with this then |
| 16:23.41 | Peitolm | i had a nasty yaboot error last time |
| 16:44.05 | Peitolm | nope, still failed, 'Config file error: Token is too long near line 0 in file /etc/yaboot.conf' |
| 16:52.06 | Peitolm | what's the default path to a kernel under ppc debian? |
| 16:55.51 | daktari | how do you use "bye" at OpenFirmware? |
| 16:56.30 | daktari | i'm confused |
| 16:56.39 | daktari | and i think i'm talking to a bot |
| 16:59.01 | daktari | pahartik: how do you use "bye" at OpenFirmware? |
| 17:00.45 | daktari | my system is fried |
| 17:00.51 | daktari | that's all there is to it |
| 17:03.20 | Peitolm | does your system boot with the OSX disk? |
| 17:05.49 | daktari | i don't have one |
| 17:05.56 | daktari | os9 only |
| 17:10.44 | Peitolm | sorry, i came to powerpc after 10.3 |
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| 18:21.54 | pahartik | daktari: Holding down "C" key during powerup does not help? |
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| 22:04.25 | klh | pressing the eject button on the keyboard does not open drive |
| 22:04.42 | dougmencken | klh: wow |
| 22:04.44 | klh | have XF86Eject as the keyboard shortcut |
| 22:04.57 | dougmencken | apple keyboard? |
| 22:05.01 | klh | ya |
| 22:05.12 | dougmencken | mac model? |
| 22:05.29 | klh | eMac G4 |
| 22:05.34 | dougmencken | aware of 'starce' and pastebins? |
| 22:05.38 | dougmencken | strace |
| 22:05.53 | klh | if u can help i can do it |
| 22:05.55 | klh | :) |
| 22:06.05 | dougmencken | know your /dev/hd* for cd-rom? |
| 22:06.14 | klh | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.27 | dougmencken | strace 'eject /dev/hdc/' (for example) and pastebin it |
| 22:06.46 | dougmencken | w/o quotes |
| 22:07.34 | klh | installing strace |
| 22:08.10 | dougmencken | klh: at least, does eject /dev/hdc open/close the drive for you? |
| 22:08.16 | klh | ya |
| 22:08.34 | dougmencken | okay |
| 22:08.50 | klh | http://pastebin.com/HsdffkWt |
| 22:10.14 | dougmencken | fine, so it's not kernel/eject stuff, it's ... some googlable stuff: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/567365 |
| 22:10.26 | klh | heh |
| 22:11.30 | dougmencken | 's purpose is to make perfect kernel |
| 22:12.00 | dougmencken | which is not x86 and x86_18 and x86_32 only |
| 22:12.12 | dougmencken | s/_18/_16/ |
| 22:13.20 | klh | i see no fix on launchpad url |
| 22:13.39 | klh | but the symptom is correct |
| 22:17.23 | dougmencken | it's some X.org stuff, sorry |
| 22:22.06 | klh | and because debian now uses automagic X means we are unable to know or fix? |
| 22:31.40 | dougmencken | klh: some X gurus may help you, it's not platfrom-specific |
| 22:32.31 | klh | did not know if it may be related -- much appreciated anyhow |
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