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| 02:42.48 | pipo65 | hi |
| 02:42.51 | pipo65 | which version of debian I recommend using a powerbook g4 |
| 02:44.05 | pipo65 | I install but I squeeze bariums gender issues and I think one the most important is the temperature |
| 02:47.09 | pipo65 | ?? |
| 02:48.14 | pipo65 | Hobbes`, |
| 02:48.18 | pipo65 | DelTree, |
| 02:48.53 | pipo65 | anyone here |
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| 03:51.17 | simonlnu | whowhat? |
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| 05:43.16 | Nalle_ | Morning |
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| 06:22.18 | pahartik | Hello Nalle_ Morning |
| 06:27.49 | Nalle_ | Morning paha |
| 06:37.07 | simonlnu | hi folks |
| 06:46.25 | pahartik | Hello simonlnu inu |
| 06:59.08 | Nalle_ | Hey simon |
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| 11:41.34 | ragnar76 | hi all |
| 11:41.58 | ragnar76 | is it possible to read the temperature of my g4 ppc? |
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| 11:46.35 | Nalle_ | cat /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 11:46.39 | Nalle_ | I am not sure how accurate that is |
| 11:47.11 | ragnar76 | hi, i guess u are wrong here, i guess you mean linuxmint? ;) |
| 11:47.54 | ragnar76 | hups, i'm not at my #freemint channel |
| 11:47.57 | ragnar76 | sorry |
| 11:50.22 | Nalle_ | Funny, to me, FreeMiNT always means the alternative OS for Atari's :) |
| 11:50.42 | ragnar76 | Nalle_: it is |
| 11:50.48 | ragnar76 | Nalle_: you know ataris? |
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| 11:50.56 | Nalle_ | ragnar76: I own 2 |
| 11:51.08 | Nalle_ | among other old stuff |
| 11:51.12 | ragnar76 | Nalle_: wow, cool :) |
| 11:51.52 | ragnar76 | from time 2 time we have some lost users who thinks freemint has something to do with linux mint |
| 11:52.40 | Nalle_ | I guess it is an easy mixup to make |
| 11:52.56 | Nalle_ | especially since isn't there also just "MiNT" for Atari too |
| 11:53.03 | ragnar76 | yes |
| 11:53.41 | Nalle_ | I guess thats just how it is. Thesedays, I also sometimes run into abbreviations that have gotten whole new meanings.. :D |
| 11:54.00 | ragnar76 | the guys from linuxmint dicussed that a couple of years and say say there is no reason to rename. it should not be confusing |
| 11:54.18 | ragnar76 | -1say |
| 12:00.39 | ragnar76 | but back to your question. cat /proc/cpuinfo prints the accurate cpu infos |
| 12:01.41 | Nalle_ | Mine runs nice and cool then at ~20c |
| 12:04.24 | ragnar76 | how do you found that out? i cannot install lm-sensors on my g4 quicksilver |
| 12:04.45 | ragnar76 | i mean, i can install, sure but it does not find any sensor |
| 12:04.52 | Nalle_ | Weird |
| 12:04.59 | Nalle_ | My server is a really old G3 machine |
| 12:05.21 | ragnar76 | i hav a g4 digital audio |
| 12:12.32 | pahartik | ragnar76: Temperature sensors on PowerMacintosh are dealt with by driver not related to "lm-sensors" |
| 12:13.00 | ragnar76 | pahartik: what do i need then? |
| 12:16.19 | pahartik | ragnar76: Probably "find /lib/modules/ | grep windtunnel" |
| 12:17.02 | Nalle_ | Is that the same that workds on G4 MDD? |
| 12:17.19 | Nalle_ | Probably since they are pretty much identical I think.. |
| 12:17.55 | ragnar76 | i'm not familliar with mdd's |
| 12:18.44 | ragnar76 | to be honest, i'm not familliar with macs at all. i got this at a flea market for 5 euros |
| 12:19.06 | Nalle_ | I got one that serves currently as MorphOS machine but I've been thinking about making it dual-boot also Linux |
| 12:19.11 | Nalle_ | Good prise |
| 12:19.16 | Nalle_ | I paid 60 euros for my G4 MDD |
| 12:19.33 | ragnar76 | i know debian from m68k and x86 and x86/64 |
| 12:19.50 | Nalle_ | The G3 I got for free |
| 12:20.15 | Nalle_ | But then again, it is very old machine. Serves nicely as a server though. Plenty of muscle for that. |
| 12:20.22 | ragnar76 | MorphOS? i have to look for :D |
| 12:20.48 | Nalle_ | http://www.morphos-team.net/ |
| 12:20.58 | Nalle_ | Supports some of the last gen G4 Macs |
| 12:21.53 | ragnar76 | i will then have macos9, macosx, debian and prob. morphos on this :) |
| 12:23.01 | Nalle_ | Quicksilver/Digital audio seems to be supported |
| 12:23.33 | Nalle_ | As long as you got ATi card. nVidia ones aren't supported at all I think |
| 12:24.59 | ragnar76 | sad, i have a nvidia |
| 12:31.48 | Nalle_ | Well, you can always get a old Radeon 7000/8000 series card for peanuts if needed |
| 12:32.16 | Nalle_ | No idea why they do not support nVidia at all |
| 12:32.22 | Nalle_ | Probably some ideological thing I bet |
| 12:32.35 | ragnar76 | or some drivers missing |
| 12:33.11 | Nalle_ | Or maybe documentation is not available and drivers are closed source so they cannot study them |
| 12:33.15 | Nalle_ | Who knows |
| 12:33.16 | Nalle_ | :) |
| 12:33.18 | Nalle_ | or something |
| 12:33.55 | ragnar76 | yes, x11 without drivers is slow as hell on my g4 |
| 12:36.32 | ragnar76 | ahhhh... morphos can run amiga stuff |
| 12:36.42 | ragnar76 | no amiga will enter my house ;) |
| 12:39.07 | Nalle_ | HEhe |
| 12:39.19 | Nalle_ | I own both plus quite a lot of other stuff :) |
| 12:40.15 | ragnar76 | i do too but no amiga *g* |
| 12:40.45 | ragnar76 | but we had a party named #unite68k last july. i can live with them |
| 12:41.45 | Nalle_ | Hehe :) |
| 12:42.04 | Nalle_ | I got the Atari 520 STe for fun to see what its like |
| 12:42.13 | Nalle_ | If I could afford it, I'd get a Falcon030 |
| 12:42.42 | ragnar76 | i have a couple of ataris, starting from a 1040 stfm to falcon |
| 12:43.03 | ragnar76 | when i have saved enough money i will get the new firebee |
| 12:43.23 | ragnar76 | http://acp.atari.org/ |
| 12:43.47 | Nalle_ | The firebee looked nice. I had a look at that page not too long ago |
| 12:44.17 | ragnar76 | i'm related to the project :) |
| 12:44.34 | Nalle_ | They did try to do a CF card for Amiga too but the problem is the opcodes that work differently. The missing ones can always be trapped and emulated but those differently working ones.. |
| 12:45.42 | ragnar76 | sd/cf card was very simple to implement. they are connected to the ide bus |
| 12:45.51 | ragnar76 | a bit harder was usb and pci |
| 12:47.45 | Nalle_ | I can imagine although isn't USB basically a serial port? |
| 12:47.57 | Nalle_ | Need sa USB stack though ofcourse |
| 12:48.02 | Nalle_ | If you want to get something to work |
| 12:48.16 | Nalle_ | But electrically I mean |
| 12:48.29 | Nalle_ | You can get single IC solutions that convert between normal rs232 and usb |
| 12:48.37 | Nalle_ | I got couple of those that I am planning to use.. |
| 12:49.01 | ragnar76 | usb is it's own bus system and has nothing in common with rs232. except the word "serial" |
| 12:49.50 | Nalle_ | Really? |
| 12:50.13 | ragnar76 | afaik yes |
| 12:50.26 | Nalle_ | Ofcourse it is much simpler because it only has very few pins compared to rs232 but .. |
| 12:50.56 | Nalle_ | Oh well, I am no expert on it. My solution is to use the usb conversion chip to get usb to my machine |
| 12:51.32 | Nalle_ | Ofcourse I don't know what all the chips does internally |
| 12:51.49 | ragnar76 | the coldfire cpu has everything for usb buildin but there must be some drivers for it |
| 12:52.02 | Nalle_ | That's nice :) |
| 12:53.10 | Nalle_ | IT is also nice since it has SDRAM interface and all other nice stuff since it is a microcontroller |
| 12:53.14 | ragnar76 | the coldfire cpu is very good and cheap. it has many functions build in already. like usb, pci and many other stuff |
| 12:53.26 | Nalle_ | Yeah |
| 12:53.32 | Nalle_ | I messed with one a long time ago |
| 12:53.43 | Nalle_ | Got it sort of working but never managed to make it stable |
| 12:54.44 | Nalle_ | But then again, doing 32bit wide traces at high speeds is hard and timing constraints are tight |
| 12:54.58 | Nalle_ | Didn't have the expertise back then |
| 12:55.50 | ragnar76 | i'm not that pro too |
| 12:56.05 | ragnar76 | my part is to port some software from linux to it |
| 12:57.49 | ragnar76 | my very fisr port was gpg :) |
| 12:57.55 | Nalle_ | That requires other kind of experise :) |
| 12:58.09 | Nalle_ | I am more of a hardware guy myself even though I write code for living |
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| 14:45.26 | Nalle_ | re |
| 14:45.50 | ragnar76 | wb |
| 14:45.54 | Nalle_ | Thanks |
| 14:46.47 | ragnar76 | i just saw hurrican irene on a sat movie. what a monster! |
| 14:47.31 | ragnar76 | it comming to us europeans |
| 14:48.22 | ragnar76 | not that strong but it comes with the gulf stream |
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