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| 17:20.34 | grey_gandalf | Hi! Help! |
| 17:20.51 | grey_gandalf | after runnint an update yesterday... my iBook doesn't finish boot anymore and drops into busybox :( |
| 17:23.50 | grey_gandalf | help on getting it back from the bit death greatly appreciated |
| 17:24.00 | grey_gandalf | soemthing is wrong with disk uuid's I think |
| 17:28.01 | pahartik | grey_gandalf: What was upgraded? |
| 17:28.24 | grey_gandalf | heh, lots of stuff, I updated everything that was available in aptitude |
| 17:28.44 | grey_gandalf | more than 50 packages.. I last upgraded almost a month ago |
| 17:30.34 | pahartik | grey_gandalf: Is it "stable"? |
| 17:31.23 | grey_gandalf | no, unstable |
| 17:31.56 | grey_gandalf | maybe the kernel was updated too |
| 17:33.04 | pahartik | grey_gandalf: Have you got multiple Linux kernel versions installed? |
| 17:33.42 | grey_gandalf | I did not explicitely remove the old one. SOmetimes aptitude does it sometimes not |
| 17:34.11 | grey_gandalf | can I list them at boot? I am quite new at using debian on ppc |
| 17:34.53 | grey_gandalf | perhaps with the yaboot ? |
| 17:35.15 | grey_gandalf | let me tell you exacly what happens. Yaboot boots the ekrnel |
| 17:35.31 | grey_gandalf | Begin: Waiting for root file system ... |
| 17:36.32 | grey_gandalf | "Gave up" |
| 17:37.37 | grey_gandalf | fails to find /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxx long number |
| 17:37.44 | grey_gandalf | and then of course fails to load modules, etc etc |
| 17:38.18 | pahartik | grey_gandalf: <Tab> lists defined kernels from configuration file at "yaboot" prompt, but even those not listed can be booted, if one knows kernel image and ramdisk image filename and other parameters... |
| 17:39.11 | grey_gandalf | it shows "Linux" and "old" |
| 17:39.33 | grey_gandalf | intresting, none has a * to be the default |
| 17:39.44 | grey_gandalf | no "old" is configured |
| 17:42.17 | pahartik | grey_gandalf: It is good to have more than one kernel installed, or copy of known working version |
| 17:43.09 | grey_gandalf | indeed. On x86 I'm uised that the old kernel is always sticking around and I see it in GRUB so I didn't bother |
| 17:43.53 | grey_gandalf | can I mount my root with busybox to see what's in there ? |
| 17:44.46 | pahartik | grey_gandalf: Fix by starting Debian GNU/Linux installer in "rescue" mode... Then "update-initramfs" or try to install another kernel package |
| 17:45.53 | grey_gandalf | no help with busybox? |
| 17:46.06 | grey_gandalf | I need to grab a boot cd then... |
| 17:46.46 | pahartik | grey_gandalf: "/" can be mounted if drivers required for that are reachable |
| 17:47.09 | grey_gandalf | let's try.. maybe there is an old kernel there |
| 17:50.15 | grey_gandalf | pahartik: the problem is to find the "device" to mountwith busybox |
| 17:50.21 | pahartik | grey_gandalf: I had to use "rescue" boot from DVD yesterday just after installing Debian on "iMac G4", boot process was waiting for block device encryption passphrase but driver for keyboard was not present |
| 18:04.10 | grey_gandalf | boring :) I need to burn a cd then.. I bet I forgot mine |
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| 22:13.03 | dockimble | how does one upgrade yaboot? |
| 22:14.11 | pahartik | dockimble: "sudo ybin -v" |
| 22:15.21 | dockimble | doesn't work |
| 22:31.04 | pahartik | dockimble: Define "upgrade" |
| 22:33.47 | dockimble | well, i have been having issues with 3.0.0.1 |
| 22:34.00 | dockimble | that it wont mount my root file system |
| 22:34.45 | dockimble | one post on the discussion list suggested to upgrade to yaboot 1.3.16 |
| 22:35.12 | dockimble | but no, still it will not load my HD with 3.0.0.1 |
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| 22:41.57 | dockimble | im running debian sid on an iBook G3 - how can i get yaboot to play nice with linux 3.0.0.1 and load my HD? |
| 22:51.31 | pahartik | dockimble: Did you pay attention to device name change from "/dev/hd" to "/dev/sd"? |
| 22:52.00 | dockimble | pardon? |
| 22:52.34 | dockimble | did 3.0 rename them? |
| 22:53.45 | pahartik | dockimble: Driver was changed at some point... |
| 22:54.46 | dockimble | so what would be the command on boot then |
| 22:54.53 | dockimble | Linux root=what |
| 23:00.45 | pahartik | dockimble: I have UUID for "/boot/" and "/" is on LVM... For example, "UUID=9da725fa-7430-4384-a2d2-29bb5d4b3015" for "/boot/"... Then device name does not matter |
| 23:02.41 | dockimble | i am just going to downgrade to squeeze - fixing the airport wifi problem cannot possible be more difficult than this |
| 23:02.48 | pahartik | dockimble: "sudo blkid", "man fstab" |
| 23:06.39 | pahartik | dockimble: "yaboot 1.3.13a-1squeeze1" boots "linux-image-3.0.0-1-powerpc 3.0.0-3" just fine on this "iMac G4", as does "grub-ieee1275" |
| 23:07.26 | dockimble | ok, how does one downgrade yaboot and keep it that way |
| 23:09.32 | dockimble | or how to flag against upgrading |
| 23:13.18 | dockimble | that didn't work either |
| 23:14.04 | pahartik | dockimble: How do you edit your "/etc/yaboot.conf"? |
| 23:14.27 | dockimble | i didnt - via ybin |
| 23:15.57 | pahartik | dockimble: If you make changes, install several kernels for example, they have to be added to configuration file before "sudo ybin -v"... |
| 23:19.08 | dockimble | forget it |
| 23:19.24 | dockimble | im just going to reinstall stable, and try to workout the issue with airport |
| 23:19.51 | pahartik | dockimble: Very good |