| 00:01.47 | simonlnu | you'll probably want to focus on the filesystems and the device drivers |
| 00:02.38 | grey_gandalf | extracting the 3.1.0 image |
| 00:04.31 | grey_gandalf | ide_pmac is not a valid driver I fear |
| 00:05.04 | simonlnu | well, i saw it so i think you're wrong =) |
| 00:05.05 | grey_gandalf | ext3.ko is there |
| 00:05.26 | grey_gandalf | where did you see it? |
| 00:06.14 | simonlnu | oh shit, sorry, ide_core |
| 00:07.22 | grey_gandalf | where is it? |
| 00:07.25 | grey_gandalf | I see ata_generic |
| 00:07.27 | simonlnu | hmm, what does lspci say aboutthe IDE device? |
| 00:07.42 | simonlnu | that'll do, but usually using the right driver works better |
| 00:07.43 | grey_gandalf | and ide-core |
| 00:08.15 | grey_gandalf | both are in the initrd anyway |
| 00:08.39 | grey_gandalf | # lspci |
| 00:08.39 | grey_gandalf | 0000:00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth AGP |
| 00:08.39 | grey_gandalf | 0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility L AGP 2x (rev 64) |
| 00:08.39 | grey_gandalf | 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth PCI |
| 00:08.39 | grey_gandalf | 0001:10:17.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo Mac I/O (rev 02) |
| 00:08.39 | grey_gandalf | 0001:10:18.0 USB controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB |
| 00:08.39 | grey_gandalf | 0001:10:19.0 USB controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB |
| 00:08.40 | grey_gandalf | 0002:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth Internal PCI |
| 00:08.40 | grey_gandalf | 0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth GMAC (Sun GEM) |
| 00:08.55 | grey_gandalf | KeyLargo ? |
| 00:09.19 | simonlnu | mac io device, it's probably there (IIRC). |
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| 00:09.31 | web416 | Just tried to read the partition table on a disk that came from a recently deceased ibook g4. fdisk -l says no valid partion table. Would that be because data is set out differently on the two systems, or because my disk is hooped? |
| 00:09.49 | simonlnu | fdisk can't read mac partition maps |
| 00:10.25 | pauljwells | Hi I'm new here. I'm looking for some hints to fix a ppc kernel problem |
| 00:11.04 | web416 | anyway I can read this ppc disk on an amd (ext. enclosure via usb): compile mac-fdisk on the amd64? |
| 00:11.36 | simonlnu | web416: yep. apt-get source mac-fdisk. it won't finish making the package, but the binary will nonetheless work ok. |
| 00:12.00 | simonlnu | grey_gandalf: thinking |
| 00:12.07 | grey_gandalf | where is the macio device module? |
| 00:12.21 | simonlnu | grey_gandalf: run update-pciids then run lspci again |
| 00:12.29 | grey_gandalf | the strange thing is that lsmod of the working kernel doesn't show any obious module, most seem to be snd or usb related |
| 00:12.51 | simonlnu | (just in case) |
| 00:13.20 | grey_gandalf | no change, it must be key largo |
| 00:13.44 | web416 | but now I think of it, what then? how would I mount and read if mount on amd64 can't find any partitions |
| 00:17.06 | grey_gandalf | [ 0.000000] Found a Keylargo mac-io controller, rev: 2, mapped at 0xff740000 |
| 00:17.18 | grey_gandalf | [ 3.041450] ide-pmac: Found Apple KeyLargo ATA-4 controller (macio), bus ID 2, irq 19 |
| 00:17.21 | grey_gandalf | this is from the working kernel |
| 00:18.06 | simonlnu | web416: the mac parition map support is there IIRC, just fdisk can't read it |
| 00:18.30 | web416 | thanks |
| 00:18.36 | grey_gandalf | so you should be able to mount it |
| 00:18.42 | grey_gandalf | jus tnot inspect it I guess |
| 00:18.50 | simonlnu | part* |
| 00:19.31 | simonlnu | CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION=y |
| 00:19.46 | simonlnu | this is on an i386 |
| 00:21.02 | simonlnu | grey_gandalf: yeh. i'm wondering wth is going on. the b&w g3 (really g4, but whatever ;) doesn't use the key largo, uses some sis device |
| 00:22.02 | simonlnu | i'm doing some googling... |
| 00:22.40 | grey_gandalf | it is in mac-io anyway |
| 00:22.44 | grey_gandalf | do you know which kernel module it is? |
| 00:23.19 | web416 | grep MAC_PART /boot/config-2.6.32-5-amd64 = y, thanks again |
| 00:23.29 | simonlnu | grey_gandalf: >>> Bug#617231: laptop (iBook G4) doesn't boot with the kernel 2.6.37-2 |
| 00:23.55 | simonlnu | it's marked as done |
| 00:24.07 | simonlnu | http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2011/03/msg00218.html |
| 00:25.39 | grey_gandalf | mine is ibook g3, clamshell |
| 00:25.43 | grey_gandalf | but that has keylargo too |
| 00:26.03 | simonlnu | oh ... wait a minute |
| 00:26.20 | simonlnu | do: dpkg -l '*firmware-linux*' |
| 00:27.21 | simonlnu | if it's not there, try installing it, and booting. afaik it doesn't need it, but it won't hurt anything beign there if not (except take up space). |
| 00:27.45 | grey_gandalf | un firmware-linux <none> (no description available) |
| 00:27.45 | grey_gandalf | ii firmware-linux-free 3 Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel |
| 00:28.00 | grey_gandalf | with a 3gb disk I'm tight :) |
| 00:28.08 | grey_gandalf | but I already slapped the -free one |
| 00:28.15 | simonlnu | i see |
| 00:30.18 | simonlnu | ah |
| 00:30.18 | simonlnu | Bug#641210: linux-image-3.0.0-1-powerpc: After pata_macio replaced |
| 00:30.18 | simonlnu | Search Options 11 Sep 2011 ... Bug#641210: linux-image-3.0.0-1-powerpc: After pata_macio |
| 00:30.22 | simonlnu | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.41 | grey_gandalf | hmm sounds matching |
| 00:30.48 | simonlnu | http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2011/09/msg00323.html |
| 00:31.04 | simonlnu | fix/workaround ^^ |
| 00:31.31 | simonlnu | goes to read the rest ;) |
| 00:32.37 | simonlnu | of course, do that *exactly* =). ok, so it was a matter of finding the right module |
| 00:32.44 | simonlnu | er, DON'T |
| 00:32.58 | grey_gandalf | I don't have pata_macio |
| 00:33.07 | simonlnu | not there at all? |
| 00:33.23 | simonlnu | make sure you extracted the right initrd ;) |
| 00:34.07 | simonlnu | crap |
| 00:34.21 | simonlnu | maybe in th kernel itself... *checks* |
| 00:34.26 | grey_gandalf | where should it be? I'm looking in the ata supdir |
| 00:34.29 | grey_gandalf | *subdir |
| 00:34.46 | grey_gandalf | I'm looking direclty into the installed kernel |
| 00:35.12 | simonlnu | ok, it's built-in, that's why |
| 00:35.25 | simonlnu | CONFIG_PATA_MACIO=y |
| 00:35.47 | simonlnu | so why isn't it kicking in? |
| 00:36.03 | grey_gandalf | config-3.1.0-1-powerpc:CONFIG_PATA_MACIO=y |
| 00:36.06 | grey_gandalf | I confirm |
| 00:36.10 | grey_gandalf | maybe it is not that? |
| 00:36.21 | simonlnu | it's possible |
| 00:36.36 | grey_gandalf | let me reboot with the new kernel |
| 00:37.34 | grey_gandalf | I fear it is a sda / hda roblem |
| 00:37.58 | grey_gandalf | sda gets dound, partitions listed |
| 00:38.33 | simonlnu | possibly. yaboot.conf ok? |
| 00:38.54 | simonlnu | should be sdX |
| 00:39.34 | grey_gandalf | right, I fear it is using hda3 |
| 00:40.36 | simonlnu | well, when you're booting to 3.x, you can add root=/dev/sda3 to yaboot's prompt |
| 00:40.53 | simonlnu | or just edit yaboot.conf and re-run ybin -v |
| 00:41.23 | simonlnu | i think the 2.6.3x series used sdX anyway |
| 00:41.42 | grey_gandalf | hmm, I have hd all over the place |
| 00:42.04 | grey_gandalf | 2.6 uses hd* |
| 00:42.09 | grey_gandalf | ls /dev/hd* |
| 00:42.24 | simonlnu | could be that the ide sussystem migrated and deprecated the entire hdX schema |
| 00:42.28 | simonlnu | ok |
| 00:42.32 | simonlnu | subs* |
| 00:42.46 | simonlnu | ...in 3.x |
| 00:42.58 | grey_gandalf | yeah, I need to update it gradually. First, the root device |
| 00:43.13 | grey_gandalf | then new kernels will need ybin to isntall also in sd* and not hd* |
| 00:43.31 | grey_gandalf | let's see if it boots, I set the root differently for the new and old kernel sections |
| 00:43.40 | simonlnu | esp. if the 3.x series switched to using pata_macio |
| 00:43.45 | simonlnu | ok |
| 00:45.02 | grey_gandalf | name -a |
| 00:45.03 | grey_gandalf | Linux dhcppc6 3.1.0-1-powerpc |
| 00:45.08 | grey_gandalf | good. One problem less :) |
| 00:45.13 | simonlnu | sweet |
| 00:45.15 | grey_gandalf | now let's hoe it works fine |
| 00:45.17 | grey_gandalf | thanks |
| 00:45.20 | simonlnu | np man |
| 00:45.34 | grey_gandalf | one stupid little option :) |
| 00:45.40 | simonlnu | hehe |
| 00:45.52 | simonlnu | sometimes it's just that ;) |
| 00:46.23 | grey_gandalf | a.47 am |
| 00:46.27 | grey_gandalf | 1.47 am |
| 00:46.47 | simonlnu | well, you get to go to bed satisfied you fixed something |
| 00:46.52 | grey_gandalf | :) |
| 00:46.57 | simonlnu | :D |
| 00:46.59 | grey_gandalf | my cutie orange thingie |
| 00:47.10 | grey_gandalf | with a brand new battery that last ages |
| 00:47.18 | simonlnu | yeh, i bet |
| 00:47.34 | grey_gandalf | except the small screen, they were wonderful hardware |
| 00:47.40 | grey_gandalf | low poer consumption |
| 00:47.44 | simonlnu | yup |
| 00:47.50 | grey_gandalf | I also have a green 466 one |
| 00:48.01 | simonlnu | nice |
| 00:48.02 | grey_gandalf | replaced the HDD with a newer, silent one.. it lasts forever |
| 00:48.08 | grey_gandalf | runs 10.3 :) |
| 00:48.31 | simonlnu | *nods* |
| 00:48.32 | grey_gandalf | this one has a german keyboard though, I need to be able to configure it better on X11 |
| 00:48.45 | grey_gandalf | I need to set some mappings or I can't get alt-gr working |
| 00:48.52 | simonlnu | ok |
| 00:49.06 | grey_gandalf | but I couldn't automate it, i always run it from the shell |
| 00:49.12 | simonlnu | brb, food is done |
| 00:49.35 | grey_gandalf | it will be the next task, for tomorrow |
| 00:49.36 | grey_gandalf | bye |
| 00:50.24 | simonlnu | see ya |
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| 00:50.33 | simonlnu | << wants to get a raspberry pi |
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| 05:36.09 | pahartik | simonlnu: It has been discussed by members of local hackerspace community, there seems to be reasonable interest towards it |
| 05:36.24 | simonlnu | :) |
| 05:36.39 | simonlnu | i'd bring that thing around with me :) |
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| 06:49.45 | Nalle_ | Morning |
| 06:49.59 | simonlnu | hey |
| 07:12.45 | Nalle_ | Heya simon |
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| 10:08.52 | Nalle_ | Morning paha |
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