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| 19:04.57 | silvertip257 | I have an old Xserve G4 DP that I'm toying with. I've booted to Finnix (Debian PPC Live disc) in preparation for installing Squeeze. I noticed that the strip of leds on the front bezel don't light up (modprobe rack-meter fixed that), but 1- the lights don't indicate proper CPU load and 2- only one proc is detected (which may be an issue with the live CD because OpenFirmware detects both procs). Thanks for any insight into the rack |
| 19:04.57 | silvertip257 | -meter leds. |
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| 19:08.22 | pahartik | silvertip257: Make sure that kernel configuration has SMP enabled |
| 19:08.47 | silvertip257 | pahartik: ok - when I install Squeeze I'll make sure that's done. |
| 19:08.59 | silvertip257 | Ideas on the pretty blue leds? ;) |
| 19:19.21 | pahartik | silvertip257: I have never seen "Xserve" |
| 19:22.43 | silvertip257 | pahartik: bit like this ... http://images.cdn.fotopedia.com/flickr-368052045-image.jpg ; I'm hoping to find a better photo |
| 19:25.19 | silvertip257 | http://www.jerkychew.com/forsale/xserve/pretty_lights_small.jpg |
| 19:25.54 | silvertip257 | I have the older G4 which is 1U and the lights are in a different location ^ |
| 19:27.36 | silvertip257 | this is the layout (this one is probably 2nd Gen) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/timnovinger/3530073982/ |
| 19:47.51 | simonlnu | silvertip257: squeeze kernel or later should likely support that thing better. also, finnix isn't debian. may be debian-based though. debian has their own debian live cd, but no ppc available (maybe, please check the cd site: www.debian.org/CD/) |
| 19:48.39 | silvertip257 | I'll check - you are correct (finnix == debian-based, which is not "debian") |
| 19:49.38 | simonlnu | i've never heard of it actually.. i'll go check it out later |
| 19:51.45 | silvertip257 | finnix.org - x86, amd64, ppc |
| 19:52.21 | silvertip257 | it rivals systemrescuecd in my opinion |
| 19:52.31 | simonlnu | aah, thank you |
| 19:52.53 | silvertip257 | simonlnu: would the xfce/lxde iso be live? > debian-6.0.3-powerpc-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso |
| 19:53.19 | simonlnu | cd 1? no. there are specific isos that are live |
| 19:54.03 | silvertip257 | gotcha - those will be text only |
| 19:54.04 | pahartik | silvertip257: No, it just contains specific selection of packages |
| 19:54.10 | silvertip257 | ah |
| 19:54.24 | simonlnu | silvertip257: there are some that have x, but only the rescue one fits on a cd |
| 19:54.36 | silvertip257 | Ideally after I'm done testing I will grab the netinstall for Squeeze PPC to pick and choose what I install. |
| 19:54.45 | simonlnu | the rest are a bit bigger, so they're dvd sized |
| 19:54.55 | simonlnu | of course =) |
| 19:55.05 | silvertip257 | :) ... I need to stick with CDs |
| 19:56.19 | simonlnu | yeh, i don't they came dvds |
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| 20:20.58 | simonlnu | silvertip257: nice |
| 20:21.25 | silvertip257 | what's nice? |
| 20:23.01 | simonlnu | finnix. x86/ppc, small. for sysadmin. probably along the lines of grml in features |
| 20:23.17 | simonlnu | i got the torrents to fetch later |
| 20:23.52 | klh | have yet to ever try finnix |
| 20:24.04 | silvertip257 | yes - grml and finnix are similar ... systemrescuecd (Gentoo-based) as well. |
| 20:24.07 | klh | always go with debian minimal and install what I want |
| 20:24.30 | silvertip257 | grml recently got a make-over and now it's down to ~350MB in the last release |
| 20:25.03 | silvertip257 | whereas finnix is 120MB (no Xwindows unlike grml and sysrescuecd) |
| 20:25.12 | silvertip257 | good live CDs |
| 20:26.10 | simonlnu | indeed. that's what i'd use a livecd for nowadays, unless i wanted to show linux off to someone (that rarely happens) |
| 20:26.36 | silvertip257 | simonlnu: if you PXE boot images, you can also add boot options for enabling sshd and passwords, etc |
| 20:27.05 | silvertip257 | you could specify them each time you boot the CD (or in the syslinux config on USB) |
| 20:27.49 | simonlnu | i have one box that supports pxe, and i'm typing on it atm ;) |
| 20:28.02 | silvertip257 | hehe |
| 20:28.20 | simonlnu | the other one to my left is a g4 tower |
| 20:28.40 | simonlnu | my server died, so i had to bung its hhds into my workstation |
| 20:28.55 | simonlnu | :/ |
| 20:29.13 | silvertip257 | ahh - I never did invest much more time in netbooting (as Apple calls it) this Xserve G4 I have. Besides the guys in #mac flamed me big time one day when I inquired about that kind of stuff. |
| 20:29.21 | silvertip257 | ooo - that stinks |
| 20:29.49 | simonlnu | wtf? like they've never heard of netbooting. |
| 20:30.08 | simonlnu | mac os tards or such |
| 20:30.29 | silvertip257 | I mentioned pxe and they flamed me then I asked about terms similar to pxe and what they'd be for netbooting ... just a bad day to ask I suppose. |
| 20:30.37 | simonlnu | mac os tard == apple fanboi |
| 20:30.47 | silvertip257 | :D |
| 20:32.23 | simonlnu | the cpu is more interesting than the corp. that used it the most for a while. though, one little thing is piqued my interest lately, and that's those raspberry pis. |
| 20:32.31 | simonlnu | piquing* |
| 20:34.08 | simonlnu | bung a 32 or 64 gb sd card in it, hdmi/vga adapter, and bang |
| 20:34.18 | silvertip257 | simonlnu: yeah - raspberry pi looks like a good candidate for a firewall ... I haven't read up on it in probably two months. |
| 20:34.26 | simonlnu | oh, and a debian cd for arm =;) |
| 20:34.55 | simonlnu | oh, didn't think of that, but yes definitely. i'll have to get 2 then =) |
| 20:35.32 | simonlnu | they're in fab right now, iirc. model a's. model b's not yet (or something like that) |
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| 23:16.02 | AR-Brad | Ok, so, how do I set a partition as active with Yaboot so I can boot from it? |
| 23:17.40 | simonlnu | you don't |
| 23:18.21 | AR-Brad | Oh. But I want Mac OS back D: |
| 23:18.52 | simonlnu | you don't need to set anything as active |
| 23:20.28 | simonlnu | well, that all depends on whether or not you deleted or never created the apple partitions |
| 23:20.47 | AR-Brad | The apple partitions are still there. |
| 23:20.58 | AR-Brad | mac-fdisk -l shows it. |
| 23:21.08 | AR-Brad | I just have no clue how to boot it |
| 23:21.27 | simonlnu | is there a mac os there still? |
| 23:21.46 | AR-Brad | There's Apple_Bootstrap |
| 23:22.12 | AR-Brad | Or is that from Linux? |
| 23:22.13 | simonlnu | you can always hold down the option (AKA alt in peecee world) key *right* after the boing sounds to choose a boot partition/device |
| 23:22.29 | simonlnu | apple bootstrap is the yaboot partition |
| 23:22.35 | AR-Brad | Oh. Hm. |
| 23:23.46 | AR-Brad | Well, can I create a new partition, download Mac OS, then put it on that partition? |
| 23:25.15 | simonlnu | maybe. you'll need to make room; and you'll need to reinstall yaboot ('ybin'; ybin -v is interesting :) probably. |
| 23:25.32 | AR-Brad | I see. |
| 23:25.51 | AR-Brad | Or would it be possible for me to make a Mac OS partition, then just delete Yaboot and Debian? |
| 23:26.10 | AR-Brad | So I can have a Mac OS only computer again? |
| 23:26.58 | simonlnu | of course, but you'll have to take care of your boot media first =) |
| 23:27.29 | AR-Brad | I planned on just downloading it from Apple's website then putting it onto the partition |
| 23:27.43 | simonlnu | eee, yeh |
| 23:27.59 | simonlnu | you need a way to *install* that |
| 23:28.09 | AR-Brad | Hm. |
| 23:28.57 | AR-Brad | Uh.. Install it onto the partition using Debian? |
| 23:29.19 | simonlnu | you can't just plop something into a partition and expect it to run ;). no its installer, not debian's. debian can't run it. |
| 23:29.31 | AR-Brad | Darn. |
| 23:29.41 | AR-Brad | So I need to make a boot CD or something. |
| 23:29.46 | simonlnu | yes |
| 23:30.02 | simonlnu | do you have original cds? that's best. |
| 23:30.18 | AR-Brad | Nope. I may buy some later on. |
| 23:30.32 | AR-Brad | What about booting from USB? |
| 23:30.53 | simonlnu | what sort of machine is this? |
| 23:31.07 | AR-Brad | iBook G3 Clamshell. |
| 23:31.21 | simonlnu | no. probably firewire though |
| 23:31.34 | AR-Brad | What if I use Plop Linux? |
| 23:32.12 | simonlnu | what difference would that make? |
| 23:32.49 | AR-Brad | Someone in the Puppy Linux support channel told me you can use that to boot from USB somehow, even if BIOS or Open Firmware doesn't support it. |
| 23:34.31 | simonlnu | your clamshell doesn't have a bios, so bios calls are useless. those boot from usb even if the computer can't use bios calls to do that. |
| 23:34.52 | AR-Brad | Oh. Hm. |
| 23:34.59 | AR-Brad | Well darn. |
| 23:35.34 | simonlnu | netbooting is possible, not pxe. dhcp/tftp |
| 23:35.47 | AR-Brad | Booting from CD is my only option.. |
| 23:36.37 | simonlnu | firewire, like i said; cd, hdd |
| 23:37.59 | AR-Brad | eh, I can't do anything with Firewire.. |
| 23:41.40 | AR-Brad | Well, brb. |
| 23:41.52 | simonlnu | ok. good luck. |
