| 00:23.27 | AR-Brad | Hm.. |
| 00:23.41 | AR-Brad | It appears my Mac power cord has completely bit the dust. |
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| 03:29.43 | simonlnu | :/ |
| 03:31.05 | AR-Brad | ? |
| 03:34.01 | simonlnu | your cord |
| 03:34.26 | AR-Brad | Oh, yeah. |
| 03:34.30 | AR-Brad | I just ordered a new one. |
| 03:48.34 | AR-Brad | This one shot sparks across the floor, so yeaa... |
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| 03:53.45 | GTRsdk | okay the install works okay (what I'm using right now), but how do I get audio working? |
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| 13:07.53 | mdb_afk | GTRsdk: for one you could have used install64 on a G5 |
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| 16:42.53 | dclarke | test |
| 16:43.52 | dclarke | good day folks ... I am happy to announce that I have Debian 6.0.3 finally installs and working on my PowerMac G5 Dual Core PPC970MP 2.5 GHz toy |
| 16:44.06 | AR-Brad | applaudes |
| 16:44.11 | AR-Brad | :D |
| 16:44.12 | dclarke | dual socket and dual core, 8G memory. Now I will try to build a new kernel |
| 16:44.29 | dclarke | the trick was to skip any graphics .. no xfce, no gnome .. at all |
| 16:44.53 | dclarke | I have no video output at all and I removed the keyboard and mouse, it is just a box with ethernet access |
| 16:44.56 | AR-Brad | I have a Mac running Debian 6.0.3 with xfce |
| 16:44.58 | dclarke | and I am okay with that .. for now |
| 16:45.06 | dclarke | what graphics card ? |
| 16:45.12 | AR-Brad | ATI Rage. |
| 16:45.20 | AR-Brad | \old mac |
| 16:45.50 | dclarke | hrmmm .. well this is a question that I have right now, I need to run hwinfo ( I think that is the command ) in order to probe this box and see for sure wtf it has for graphics and why it does not work at all |
| 16:46.12 | dclarke | first trick is to determine what package has hwinfo in it |
| 16:46.26 | dclarke | not sure ? dpkg -L hwinfo I think |
| 16:47.08 | dclarke | anyways .. I'm happy |
| 16:47.30 | dclarke | I bought this for Christmas to play with and it took me weeks to finally get PPC64 debian running |
| 16:48.06 | dclarke | oh .. crap .. this seems to be full of 32-bit binaries ? wtf ? file /bin/ls |
| 16:48.06 | dclarke | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.23 | dclarke | thats .. wrong |
| 16:48.52 | pahartik | dclarke: Does "lspci" not tell you enough? |
| 16:49.07 | dclarke | let me check |
| 16:49.19 | dclarke | ahh .. nice |
| 16:49.30 | dclarke | what is the pastebin of choice for this irc chan please ? |
| 16:50.52 | dclarke | http://tinypaste.com/42d4ee5c |
| 16:51.25 | dclarke | looks to be nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600] |
| 16:51.39 | pahartik | dclarke: My "Apple iMac G4" has "0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX with AGP8X (Mac)] (rev a2)" |
| 16:52.06 | dclarke | any idea why I am living in 32-bit world here ? |
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| 16:52.15 | dclarke | hey .. that works well for you does it ? |
| 16:53.46 | dclarke | oookay .. time to ask the big question. Can I use aptitude-create-state-bundle on my x86_64 box and then request my PowerMac G5 to install the same packages ? |
| 16:54.18 | pahartik | dclarke: Problem is that unlike with ATI Radeon, external VGA output does not work... And this required deprecated "nv" driver for X.org server |
| 16:54.47 | dclarke | well I figured it had to be an issue like that |
| 16:55.21 | dclarke | I am going to try to build my own kernel first .. then X11 7.6 |
| 16:55.42 | dclarke | so .. if all goes well in a half day or so I should have some functionality or a warm brick room heater |
| 16:55.47 | dclarke | I'm game for that |
| 16:57.09 | AR-Brad | lol |
| 16:57.38 | dclarke | hey .. whats the fun in having a play box if you don't play with it |
| 16:57.44 | dclarke | and open source .. is fun |
| 16:58.08 | AR-Brad | I'm using my play box right now. |
| 16:58.19 | dclarke | working well for you ? |
| 16:58.26 | AR-Brad | Very well. |
| 16:58.34 | AR-Brad | It's ye olde HP from 1998 |
| 16:58.42 | AR-Brad | Fun to tinker with. |
| 16:58.45 | dclarke | I mean , you have built a pile of bins your self in /usr/local and those work or do you stay in debian package land ? |
| 16:58.54 | dclarke | hey .. a HP kayak ? |
| 16:59.03 | dclarke | don't tell me let me guess |
| 16:59.12 | pahartik | dclarke: Building custom kernel packages is always good idea |
| 16:59.13 | dclarke | HP Kayak XU tower with dual Pentium III |
| 16:59.23 | AR-Brad | Nope, but close |
| 16:59.31 | dclarke | damn good machines |
| 16:59.47 | dclarke | I still have one running .. brace yer self .. Solaris 8 on x86 |
| 16:59.48 | AR-Brad | It's an HP Pavilion 6350 with an AMD K6 2 processor. |
| 17:00.28 | dclarke | oh yes .. the old workstations. how much memory $$ in it ? |
| 17:00.42 | dclarke | got scsi controllers ? |
| 17:01.13 | AR-Brad | I dunno about the scsi controllers, but it has 4GB of RAM and a 8GB Hard Drive. |
| 17:01.42 | dclarke | uh .. 4G ? are you sure ? and its a 19998 circa box ? |
| 17:01.55 | AR-Brad | I'm sure. |
| 17:01.58 | AR-Brad | And yep. |
| 17:02.13 | AR-Brad | I'm using my USB Flash Drive to store my Virtual Memory and Page File. |
| 17:02.26 | AR-Brad | I set it to 4G, and it flies. |
| 17:02.40 | dclarke | oh .. I see .. but how much real memory ? |
| 17:02.50 | dclarke | can't be more than 1G max on those old boxen |
| 17:02.54 | AR-Brad | 160mb. |
| 17:03.00 | dclarke | mine has 768Mb and that chock full |
| 17:03.04 | AR-Brad | 256 max. |
| 17:03.06 | dclarke | ah ha |
| 17:03.07 | dclarke | yep |
| 17:03.34 | dclarke | I am running a 1999 HP Kayak XU tower with three scsi controllers nad Solaris 8 in it .. still running after 11 years or more |
| 17:03.49 | dclarke | however my main workstation is a Sun Ultra 20 M2 |
| 17:03.56 | AR-Brad | It's nice to see old computers still running. |
| 17:03.57 | dclarke | with NVidia Quadro |
| 17:04.20 | AR-Brad | Shows how much quality they have. |
| 17:04.31 | dclarke | I have an old DEC Alpha 6000 series in the server room .. unplugged however. It is a beast . I always wanted to put a linux on it |
| 17:05.21 | AR-Brad | What about Puppy Linux? |
| 17:05.28 | AR-Brad | Nice and light. |
| 17:05.30 | dclarke | anyways .. I'm happy as a clam that my PowerMac G5 is running. I am now going to mess with it and perhaps create a custom kernel or make a warm brick. Wish me luck |
| 17:05.41 | dclarke | go see menuet for "nice and light" |
| 17:05.42 | AR-Brad | Good luck. |
| 17:05.56 | dclarke | menuet os .. all written in assembly |
| 17:06.05 | AR-Brad | I'll check it out. |
| 17:06.06 | dclarke | yep .. going to attack a kernel fisrt .. |
| 17:06.14 | dclarke | if that works .. then X11 7.6 |
| 17:06.21 | dclarke | if that works .. I'll get drunko |
| 17:06.25 | dclarke | if that works .. I'll get drunk |
| 17:06.46 | dclarke | has a bottle of scotch standing by |
| 17:06.58 | AR-Brad | Haha, sounds like a plan. |
| 17:07.06 | dclarke | oh .. man .. it is |
| 17:07.27 | dclarke | check here later .. like a lot later .. if some fool it typing badly and happy and going on and on about his power mac .. it will be me |
| 17:07.48 | AR-Brad | Hehehe |
| 17:07.55 | dclarke | puts the balls to the wall and downloads the linux 3.2.1 sources |
| 18:00.32 | mdbenson | dclarke: I may be round to pull out all your fingernails if you put Linux on an Alpha |
| 18:00.37 | mdbenson | ;) |
| 18:01.19 | AR-Brad | I wish my Mac parts would hurry up and ship... I wanna get this thing up and running. |
| 18:43.41 | GTRsdk | mdbenson, I used install64 on it. That;s the only way I got it to work |
| 19:41.50 | dclarke | mdbenson, linux on a DEC alpha is .. um ? bad ? |
| 19:43.24 | dclarke | watches the new kernel compile and trots off to watch star trek voyager re-runs |
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