| 00:22.18 | dclarke | help : where is mkinitrd ? I try mkinitrd -o initrd.img-3.2.1 3.2.1 and I get -su: mkinitrd: command not found |
| 00:22.32 | Skrzyp | O.o |
| 00:22.42 | Skrzyp | update-initramfs |
| 00:22.42 | dclarke | yes ..sewriously |
| 00:23.10 | dclarke | update-initramfs ? hrmmm |
| 00:23.16 | dclarke | a lot of docs are out of date I guess |
| 00:23.32 | Skrzyp | It updates automatically and place it in boot directory |
| 00:23.54 | Skrzyp | places* |
| 00:23.56 | dclarke | since I just compiled the kernel .. how the heck would it do this automaGically ? |
| 00:24.00 | dclarke | pure magic ? |
| 00:25.02 | dclarke | root@charon:/boot# update-initramfs -c -k 3.2.1 |
| 00:25.02 | dclarke | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.1 |
| 00:25.04 | dclarke | wow |
| 00:25.09 | dclarke | pure black magic |
| 00:25.15 | Skrzyp | If you compile kernel manually |
| 00:25.29 | Skrzyp | You dont need initrd |
| 00:25.36 | dclarke | oh .. well it can't hurt |
| 00:25.53 | dclarke | also .. I think I left a lot of stuff modular but ext234fs is definately in there |
| 00:25.54 | pahartik | dclarke: If one used "make-kpkg" with "--initrd", it should get generated when one installs package... |
| 00:26.18 | dclarke | I did all this sort of "old school" with sources from kernel.org |
| 00:27.18 | Skrzyp | integrated all of modules to kernel |
| 00:27.31 | dclarke | so thats a big ol fat kernel you have there :-) |
| 00:27.57 | Skrzyp | But it dont cause problems :) |
| 00:28.11 | dclarke | very true |
| 00:28.19 | dclarke | everything from soup to nuts in there and it works |
| 00:32.39 | dclarke | well here goes .. I'll reboot now |
| 00:34.58 | dclarke | well .. looks like I'm a total loser |
| 00:35.10 | dclarke | yaboot says vmlinuz not a valid ELF file |
| 00:35.32 | dclarke | and wow .. the PowerMac G5 is running its fans in scorching hot cool down mode |
| 00:35.34 | dclarke | nice |
| 00:35.46 | dclarke | I wondwe if I can load the old kernel file manually |
| 00:36.04 | Skrzyp | Hmm |
| 00:36.23 | Skrzyp | Maybe you made x86 kernel? |
| 00:36.37 | dclarke | maybe a PowerMac G5 can not load a 64-bit kernel image ? not sure |
| 00:36.42 | dclarke | ha .. no |
| 00:36.54 | dclarke | it is definately a ppc64 kernel |
| 00:37.01 | Skrzyp | By the way... |
| 00:37.21 | Skrzyp | Why you need custom kern? |
| 00:37.22 | dclarke | dclarke@charon:/usr/local/src$ file linux-3.2.1/vmlinux |
| 00:37.22 | dclarke | linux-3.2.1/vmlinux: ELF 64-bit MSB shared object, 64-bit PowerPC or cisco 7500, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped |
| 00:37.35 | dclarke | file /boot/vmlinux-2.6.32-5-powerpc64 |
| 00:37.35 | dclarke | /boot/vmlinux-2.6.32-5-powerpc64: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, 64-bit PowerPC or cisco 7500, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped |
| 00:37.50 | dclarke | need ? |
| 00:37.53 | dclarke | no need |
| 00:37.58 | dclarke | just felt like doing it |
| 00:38.57 | Skrzyp | So... |
| 00:39.01 | dclarke | so ... |
| 00:39.02 | Skrzyp | Working? |
| 00:39.04 | dclarke | nope |
| 00:39.08 | dclarke | total fail |
| 00:39.08 | Skrzyp | Dont touch |
| 00:39.20 | dclarke | am stuck looking at the yaboot prompt |
| 00:39.29 | Skrzyp | Working ootb |
| 00:39.41 | dclarke | I'll see if I can load the old kern and initrd manually |
| 00:39.44 | Skrzyp | From default kernel |
| 00:39.58 | dclarke | bah .. where is the fun in that? I may as well install Windows 7 |
| 00:40.15 | Skrzyp | O.o |
| 00:40.32 | Skrzyp | Windows NT 4 Server for PowerPC :) |
| 00:41.40 | dclarke | or even Windows NT 3.5.1 for DecAlpha ? |
| 00:41.51 | dclarke | anywaya .. I made a nice room heater |
| 00:42.02 | dclarke | I pulled the plug from it |
| 00:42.03 | Skrzyp | :) |
| 00:42.13 | dclarke | nice experiment |
| 00:42.48 | dclarke | I wondwe if it has to be a 32-bit kernel |
| 00:42.54 | dclarke | no idea .. very odd |
| 00:42.56 | Skrzyp | If you're a programmer, you dont need coal heater, just install Gentoo :) |
| 00:43.17 | dclarke | I have a few older Sun Sparc boxes |
| 00:43.20 | dclarke | they work just fine |
| 00:43.37 | Skrzyp | Btw |
| 00:43.41 | dclarke | uh huh ? |
| 00:43.59 | Skrzyp | Can you sell this PPC to my friend? |
| 00:44.19 | dclarke | what ? a dual core dual 2.5GHz boxen with 8GB memory ? |
| 00:44.26 | Skrzyp | He looks for some PowerMac for MorphOS |
| 00:44.33 | Skrzyp | O.O |
| 00:44.41 | dclarke | well thats what this is |
| 00:44.43 | Skrzyp | Yyygh...? |
| 00:44.56 | dclarke | with an NVidia GeForce card in it |
| 00:45.33 | dclarke | nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600] (rev a2) |
| 00:45.39 | dclarke | see http://tinypaste.com/42d4ee5c |
| 00:45.51 | Skrzyp | gets out with little PowerMac G4 733MHz and 768MB RAM |
| 00:46.06 | Skrzyp | Lucky guy? |
| 00:46.19 | dclarke | no .. I simply paid for it |
| 00:46.21 | Skrzyp | How much it cost you? |
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| 00:46.30 | dclarke | this one was $1600 |
| 00:46.39 | dclarke | and it was just as an experiment box |
| 00:46.48 | dclarke | thus far .. not a great experiment |
| 00:47.00 | dclarke | I wonder if there is a rescue mode on the ppc install dvd |
| 00:47.14 | silvertip257 | just sold a PowerMac G4 when he inherited an old Xserve G4 :P |
| 00:47.38 | Skrzyp | Use OSX and MorphOS |
| 00:47.45 | dclarke | personally I think Apple sucks .. just a personal statement |
| 00:47.56 | Skrzyp | This is two best OSes for PPC |
| 00:48.09 | dclarke | MorphOS sounds cool |
| 00:48.18 | dclarke | I wanted a Debian box however |
| 00:48.24 | Skrzyp | Apple sucks, but Apple products don't. |
| 00:48.50 | dclarke | apple products suck in that they wreck standards to force you to pay money for stupid stuff |
| 00:48.56 | dclarke | even a usb cable is "special" |
| 00:49.03 | dclarke | a power cable is "special" |
| 00:49.07 | dclarke | and such bullshit |
| 00:49.42 | silvertip257 | dclarke: yeah ... good hardware in the end ... 1st Gen Xserve G4 with dual Gigabit ethernet |
| 00:49.43 | Skrzyp | ... |
| 00:49.52 | silvertip257 | s/good/decent/ ? |
| 00:50.00 | dclarke | I got this G5 just for the heck of it |
| 00:50.34 | silvertip257 | their usb cables/keyboards aren't special/proprietary... |
| 00:50.52 | silvertip257 | is looking put Debian on my Xserve |
| 00:51.11 | silvertip257 | not MorphOS, though it does look nice Skrzyp |
| 00:51.20 | Skrzyp | uses hardware from old PC in their PowerMac |
| 00:51.32 | silvertip257 | ah |
| 00:51.36 | Skrzyp | Without GPU |
| 00:52.00 | Skrzyp | I can't remake it. |
| 00:52.51 | Skrzyp | MorphOS is fastest OS in the world, IMHO |
| 00:52.57 | Skrzyp | Try it. |
| 00:53.22 | dclarke | okay .. you have me sold |
| 00:53.27 | dclarke | let me check in on that |
| 00:53.44 | silvertip257 | Skrzyp: it's not Linux or BSD based, is it? |
| 00:53.57 | Skrzyp | No |
| 00:54.08 | dclarke | it says PowerMac G4 |
| 00:54.13 | dclarke | will it run on a G5 ? |
| 00:54.28 | Skrzyp | It's indep, but targeted to AmigaOS4 compatible |
| 00:55.00 | Skrzyp | It runs on G5 too, probally |
| 00:55.12 | dclarke | EFIKA ? wtf ? I thought that was a dead hardware platform |
| 00:55.22 | Skrzyp | But one thing |
| 00:55.35 | Skrzyp | EFIKA is not dead :) |
| 00:55.42 | dclarke | really ? |
| 00:55.46 | dclarke | you have one ? |
| 00:56.44 | silvertip257 | Skrzyp: max. 1.5 GB RAM |
| 00:56.52 | Skrzyp | This is paid OS, with hardware-special key file licensing, unregistered version works half hour and slowdowns. |
| 00:56.55 | silvertip257 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphos#Supported_hardware |
| 00:57.03 | dclarke | see http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9009122/Developer_s_micro_server_makes_the_case_for_Solaris_on_Power?taxonomyId=12&intsrc=kc_top&taxonomyName=hardware |
| 00:57.23 | Skrzyp | It will be expanded in MorphOS 3.x |
| 00:57.29 | silvertip257 | -1 MorphOS .. no thanks :) |
| 00:58.25 | dclarke | I am somewhat familiar with the efika |
| 00:58.51 | Skrzyp | Just try this OS, you paid for further development and insanely speed. |
| 00:59.21 | dclarke | types wget http://www.morphos-team.net/morphos-2.7.iso |
| 00:59.31 | dclarke | 167M ? its tiny |
| 00:59.42 | dclarke | heck .. I can burn this on a CD |
| 01:00.10 | dclarke | okay .. I'm game .. will boot MorphOS and se what it is |
| 01:00.51 | Skrzyp | try boot it from USB, but failed |
| 01:01.16 | Skrzyp | BTW, look for FAQ and About pagd |
| 01:01.27 | Skrzyp | page* |
| 01:01.51 | dclarke | not exactly cross platform useful but I'll give it a shot |
| 01:03.10 | dclarke | I'm still curious why my mac G5 didn't boot my kernel |
| 01:03.16 | dclarke | pretty unhappy about that |
| 01:03.35 | Skrzyp | Try again next day |
| 01:03.46 | Skrzyp | Hack Murphy's laws |
| 01:04.48 | dclarke | yep .. |
| 01:05.02 | dclarke | I'll just give it another try .. later .. scotch required now |
| 01:07.08 | Skrzyp | Do like a windowsfan support service: |
| 01:07.18 | dclarke | uh huh ? |
| 01:07.30 | Skrzyp | - I have a some error message... |
| 01:07.38 | Skrzyp | - FUCK AND FORMAT! |
| 01:07.43 | dclarke | I'm in Canada .. I should install ubuntu for the nite to keep the place warm |
| 01:09.27 | Skrzyp | is from Poland, largest MorphOS an Amiga users fandom, crazy goverment, financial and education system |
| 01:10.13 | dclarke | and great vodka |
| 01:10.39 | Skrzyp | And Linux/Mac's haters, who is threatead as niggas |
| 01:10.52 | Skrzyp | dclarke++ |
| 01:11.09 | dclarke | well ukrainian vodka is awesome too |
| 01:11.33 | Skrzyp | But Russian guys drinked all our magazines in PRL |
| 01:12.25 | dclarke | okay .. on that note .. I have to go burn a CD |
| 01:12.36 | dclarke | must try this morphos stuff and also .. get a drink |
| 01:12.44 | dclarke | wanders off in search of some ice |
| 01:13.04 | Skrzyp | What time you have? |
| 01:13.15 | dclarke | 20:13 HRS |
| 01:13.20 | dclarke | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.35 | Skrzyp | have 02:13 AM, Monday |
| 01:13.49 | Skrzyp | :p |
| 01:13.53 | dclarke | holy crap .. you're in the future ! Can you get me some lottery numbers ? |
| 01:14.05 | Skrzyp | :D |
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| 01:15.17 | Skrzyp | Losowanie Dużego Lotka na dziś, to... 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64! Gratulujemy wygranej! |
| 01:19.20 | dclarke | Congratulations on winning ? cool |
| 01:19.27 | Skrzyp | dclarke: are you OK with mos? |
| 01:19.38 | dclarke | dunnu .. its a fucking slow download |
| 01:20.07 | dclarke | 66% 74.8K 10m25s |
| 01:20.11 | dclarke | geez |
| 01:20.21 | Skrzyp | Because you aren't direct connected with Polish Telecom |
| 01:20.34 | Skrzyp | Try German mirror |
| 01:21.43 | dclarke | I am using the german mirror |
| 01:22.35 | Skrzyp | So I can't help you with it. |
| 01:22.56 | dclarke | hey .. nop prob .. |
| 01:23.00 | dclarke | I'm off to get a drink |
| 01:23.05 | dclarke | back in a while .. more or less |
| 01:23.15 | Skrzyp | Hitler sit on cable, or something. |
| 01:45.09 | Skrzyp | And...? |
| 01:45.16 | Skrzyp | Some progress? |
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| 06:51.12 | Nalle_ | Morning |
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| 12:27.52 | cocoadaemon | ola |
| 12:28.54 | cocoadaemon | got an Apple G4 Quicksilver PPC, is it safe to install DebianPPC on it as a server ie do most services including samba work |
| 12:29.18 | cocoadaemon | also, will I be able to use the linux filesystem to backup osx data |
| 12:30.26 | Nalle_ | I run debian on a G4 MDD |
| 12:30.27 | Nalle_ | Works well |
| 12:31.16 | Nalle_ | How do you mean, backup? Mount the filesystem or just throw stuff across Samba? |
| 12:41.14 | Nalle_ | I use Samba to copy stuff over the LAN to the Linux machine for backups (via cron to DAT-drive) |
| 12:41.23 | Nalle_ | Works well |
| 13:05.45 | cocoadaemon | ok |
| 13:06.49 | cocoadaemon | I always get confused by filesystems format mac / pc / nic |
| 13:06.53 | cocoadaemon | ^nic^nix |
| 14:08.34 | pahartik | Hello Nalle_ Morning |
| 14:10.28 | Nalle_ | HEya paha |
| 14:20.13 | Nalle_ | Time to hit the road |
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| 17:25.56 | AR-Brad | ... |
| 17:25.59 | AR-Brad | Hi guys |
| 17:26.29 | AR-Brad | Seems I missed alot :o |
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| 21:59.13 | AR-Brad | Yay! I just won an extra 512MB of RAM for my iBook :3 |
| 22:02.03 | pahartik | AR-Brad: Very good |
| 22:02.51 | AR-Brad | Yeah, I can finally get some more then just the 128mb soldered into the motherboard. |
| 22:07.14 | AR-Brad | Now I need to wait for it to come in the mail. |
| 22:07.26 | AR-Brad | And my airport card and power cord. |
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| 23:00.30 | Skrzyp | 1 |
| 23:21.15 | AR-Brad | 1? |
| 23:21.34 | silvertip257 | 2 |
| 23:21.41 | silvertip257 | 3 |
| 23:21.49 | AR-Brad | blast off? |
| 23:23.09 | silvertip257 | yes ... an old PPC with tannerite in it :P |
| 23:23.54 | AR-Brad | Whats tannerite? |
| 23:26.03 | silvertip257 | http://www.tannerite.com/ |
| 23:26.22 | AR-Brad | Sounds like some sort of toxic chemical. |
| 23:26.26 | silvertip257 | - a binary explosive |
| 23:26.37 | AR-Brad | Ah |
| 23:26.40 | AR-Brad | I want. |
| 23:26.47 | AR-Brad | Just to scare the neighbors. |
| 23:27.22 | silvertip257 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_NLV2KCnIE |
| 23:27.54 | silvertip257 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2AubRe6HoY |
| 23:28.07 | silvertip257 | :) AR-Brad |