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| 06:58.41 | Nalle_ | Morning |
| 07:41.27 | pahartik | Hello Nalle_ Morning |
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| 08:00.47 | Nalle_ | Morning paha |
| 08:06.37 | simonlnu | hi Nalle_ and pahartik |
| 08:16.29 | pahartik | Hello simonlnu evening |
| 08:29.33 | Nalle_ | Heya simon |
| 08:29.44 | Nalle_ | Damn.. I think I need that G4 MDD for other use. |
| 08:29.59 | Nalle_ | I wonder where I could find cheap G4 PowerMac to replace it as Linux server |
| 08:31.17 | Nalle_ | Something with USB ports would be preferable |
| 08:39.31 | Nalle_ | Although I do have a 4 port USB PCI card with VIA chipset that is supposedly supported |
| 08:39.36 | Nalle_ | I have had some trouble with it though |
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| 11:21.25 | skilz | Nalle_, I'm running a G4 eMac |
| 11:21.34 | skilz | "The Cube" |
| 11:21.58 | bittin | i also got an eMac |
| 11:22.11 | skilz | pice of sh*# hey |
| 11:22.19 | skilz | Mines 700mhz |
| 11:22.20 | bittin | "Northern Lights" |
| 11:22.30 | bittin | 1,0ghz |
| 11:22.38 | skilz | I bought it other day for my girlfriend to use for $50 |
| 11:22.53 | bittin | ah i got mine from a guy at #gentoo-chat |
| 11:23.56 | Nalle_ | Heya bittin |
| 11:23.57 | Nalle_ | hi skilz |
| 11:24.06 | bittin | Hiya Nalle_ |
| 11:24.13 | skilz | hi Nalle_ |
| 11:24.37 | Nalle_ | I got the G4 MDD (1.25GHz with 2Gigs RAM) now but I'd need it for other use and hence would need to get another G4 machine as server |
| 11:24.53 | skilz | My cpu is around 80-100% most of the time |
| 11:25.00 | skilz | when using iceweasel and such |
| 11:25.07 | Nalle_ | I previously ran a G3 PowerMac as server but it lacks enough muscle to transfer data across LAN at decent speeds |
| 11:25.17 | skilz | scrolling is a bit jolty |
| 11:25.42 | skilz | My main server is a 2.4ghz p4 |
| 11:25.57 | Nalle_ | Also it didn't have USB ports so I bought a USB PCI card that was supposed to work well with Debian |
| 11:26.04 | Nalle_ | Had quite a bit of problems with it |
| 11:26.14 | Nalle_ | The built-in ports of G4 MDD work much better |
| 11:26.20 | Nalle_ | Although they are only USB 1.1 |
| 11:27.01 | Nalle_ | Other than that, it works well. |
| 11:27.03 | skilz | 1gb ram |
| 11:27.03 | skilz | wonder how I can get a faster browser |
| 11:27.03 | skilz | older software? |
| 11:27.19 | Nalle_ | Older versions are usually faster yea |
| 11:27.21 | Nalle_ | Mine is headless |
| 11:27.24 | Nalle_ | Since it is a server |
| 11:27.30 | Nalle_ | Haven't even got X installed |
| 11:27.31 | Nalle_ | :) |
| 11:28.31 | skilz | I put fluxbox on it for her to use |
| 11:28.56 | skilz | Hey 1 question |
| 11:29.09 | skilz | Can I download and install and .deb package or does it have to be for ppc? |
| 11:29.24 | skilz | like say skype.deb |
| 11:29.41 | Nalle_ | I am sure those are architecture specific |
| 11:29.54 | skilz | damn |
| 11:30.05 | skilz | So theres not much PPC software |
| 11:30.06 | Nalle_ | You could just try "apt-get install skype" tho |
| 11:30.09 | bittin | nah skype don't work on ppc :( |
| 11:30.12 | Nalle_ | If it is in the repositories |
| 11:30.22 | skilz | yeah but thats not I want |
| 11:30.23 | bittin | and i use seamonkey instead of firefox |
| 11:30.30 | Nalle_ | Although to my experience, PPC arch has less and gets updates slower than x86 arch |
| 11:30.33 | simonlnu | skype is too non-free for even debian's non-free |
| 11:30.36 | Nalle_ | Quite understandable really |
| 11:31.18 | Nalle_ | Even the kernel is still 2.6.32-5 on debian/ppc where as others already are >3.0 |
| 11:31.23 | simonlnu | sipwitch, asterisk, twinkle, jitsi, ... |
| 11:31.52 | simonlnu | well, it's still 2.6.32 in squeeze ;p |
| 11:32.10 | Nalle_ | I prefer stable branch on server :P |
| 11:32.13 | bittin | i got one > 3.0 in testing |
| 11:32.19 | skilz | If I get an older version browser should I get an older flash version? |
| 11:32.27 | simonlnu | preferably not |
| 11:32.30 | bittin | does flash work on PPC? |
| 11:32.33 | simonlnu | no |
| 11:32.42 | Nalle_ | Even so, 2.6 vs. 3.1 (or is the latest 3.2.* already?) is pretty bad |
| 11:32.47 | simonlnu | not adobe's |
| 11:32.48 | skilz | Well I was watching youtube before |
| 11:33.05 | simonlnu | probably with gnash or some other one |
| 11:33.07 | Nalle_ | Isn't youtube mostly html5 thesedays |
| 11:33.15 | skilz | ah |
| 11:33.18 | simonlnu | it's still opt-n |
| 11:33.20 | simonlnu | in |
| 11:33.25 | skilz | well what about an older version of gnash? |
| 11:33.55 | Nalle_ | Well, gotta take a break and see if the MOT likes my car or not. |
| 11:34.00 | simonlnu | the html5 for youtube runs better than the flash ;p |
| 11:34.00 | Nalle_ | Back in an hour or so |
| 11:36.13 | bittin | simonlnu, yea :> |
| 11:37.01 | simonlnu | in just about any browser, in fact |
| 12:26.13 | Nalle_ | re |
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| 19:55.01 | gregounours | Hey there. I am trying to compile a custom version of NV under mintppc and somehow i can't find the source code |
| 19:55.22 | gregounours | mintppc11 is based on Wheezy |
| 19:56.10 | simonlnu | cp your deb lines and add another, but change the 'deb' to 'deb-src'. you can then do apt-get source sourcepackagename |
| 19:56.39 | simonlnu | only loosely, and not debian; but that ^^^ will work on any .deb-based distro |
| 19:57.22 | simonlnu | apt-cache search video xorg nvidia will give you the package name, and apt-get source can figure out thesource package for you |
| 19:57.36 | simonlnu | the source* |
| 19:57.53 | gregounours | in sources.list right ? |
| 19:58.09 | gregounours | will try that |
| 19:58.15 | simonlnu | yes |
| 19:58.33 | gregounours | I am under Squeeze right now gotta reboot under Wheezy to try |
| 19:59.37 | gregounours | thanks |
| 20:00.22 | gregounours | I'll be back in a few (hours, days who knows) to pick people's barin about having nouveau run on my imac |
| 20:01.06 | simonlnu | it might not work very well, but who knows, maybe debian sid's will |
| 20:01.38 | gregounours | the main drw of mintppc11 for me right now is that I can get a newer mozilla browser. Any trick to get iceweasel update on squeeze? |
| 20:02.09 | simonlnu | you're in #debian now right? do /msg dpkg mdn |
| 20:02.31 | simonlnu | the bot won't respond to people if they're not in the same channel as it |
| 20:09.50 | gregounours | I added the deb lines, I went to aurora even but I still get that 3.5.16 is the latest |
| 20:16.02 | Guest58470 | really |
| 20:16.35 | Guest58470 | gregounours, have you considered using iceweasel? |
| 20:25.34 | gregounours | I am using iceweasel |
| 20:25.54 | gregounours | I am just using sunc and iceweasel 3.5.16 does not have that |
| 20:26.03 | gregounours | I think it comes in 4 or 5 |
| 20:26.50 | gregounours | yes really |
| 20:30.40 | gregounours | this is my sources.list : http://pastebin.com/XwCC5mpE |
| 20:31.57 | simonlnu | did you got to the web site at all? |
| 20:32.06 | simonlnu | go to* |
| 20:32.37 | gregounours | I did and that's how I modified my list before coming here |
| 20:33.57 | simonlnu | ok |
| 20:35.34 | gregounours | do any of you run anything more recent under squeeze? |
| 20:35.41 | gregounours | is that even possible on ppc? |
| 20:35.58 | gregounours | if it is may be I haven't tried hard enough |
| 20:36.07 | simonlnu | with iceweasel yes |
| 20:36.15 | gregounours | but if not then I'll keep pesterig people here :-) |
| 20:36.15 | simonlnu | use aptitude |
| 20:36.32 | simonlnu | (search) type in iceweasel, then press enter |
| 20:36.47 | simonlnu | scroll to the bottom, you'll see several versions, pick one |
| 20:40.36 | gregounours | how do i serach in aptitue |
| 20:40.48 | gregounours | I am an apt-get person :-) |
| 20:42.30 | simonlnu | forgot the /, sorry |
| 20:42.43 | simonlnu | just like 'less' |
| 20:44.40 | gregounours | thanks |
| 20:44.47 | gregounours | gotta run wil try that later |
| 20:46.41 | pachyderm | gregounours, i am using iceweasel 7 |
| 20:47.17 | pachyderm | idk if debian or ubuntu repositories have 7 as an available package... but mintppc has it |
| 20:47.49 | pachyderm | so you could add that repository, get the pubkeys and dpkg-reconfigure iceweasel |
| 20:48.47 | pahartik | pachyderm: I refer to document at "http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=iceweasel" |
| 20:49.43 | simonlnu | pdo will only have the sid/wheezy/squeeze builds |
| 20:49.58 | pachyderm | yeah |
| 20:49.59 | simonlnu | mdn will have more recent ones, esp. for squeeze |
| 20:50.10 | pachyderm | im using mintppc, which is a variation of debian |
| 20:50.23 | simonlnu | please stop calling it debian |
| 20:50.24 | pachyderm | it has a lot more in the way of modern package versions |
| 20:51.23 | pachyderm | debiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebiandebian |
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| 20:54.36 | simonlnu | *tsk* *tsk* |
| 20:54.41 | pachyderm | what bothers you so much about debian |
| 20:54.59 | pachyderm | or my calling debian debian |
| 20:56.00 | simonlnu | it's not really accurate. it's like calling fedora rhel, or some such. |
| 20:57.13 | simonlnu | i know it's just a name, and i know many of the packages initially come from testing or unstable, but we in support terms, it's difficult because we don't know if they patched things, or repackaged them in some way, etc. |
| 20:57.43 | simonlnu | i removed you because that was just obnoxious, imo |
| 20:57.55 | pachyderm | it was. |
| 20:58.08 | pachyderm | i apologize, i can be a flamer at times |
| 20:58.23 | simonlnu | accepted |
| 20:58.35 | pachyderm | however, simonlnu you should look for a 7.0 package |
| 20:58.45 | pachyderm | i'm quite pleased with iceweasel 7 |
| 20:59.07 | simonlnu | gregounours was - i have 9 from sid on wheezy, and 10beta from mozilla ;p |
| 20:59.22 | pachyderm | iceweasel or firefox |
| 20:59.27 | simonlnu | both |
| 20:59.41 | pachyderm | bc if i was able to have firefox 9 on powerpc, id be much pleased |
| 20:59.52 | pachyderm | anytime i try to sign into myspace, it redirects me to mobile |
| 21:00.00 | pachyderm | but under firefox, it doesnt |
| 21:00.20 | pachyderm | try as i might, i cant get it to stop, short of changing my browser's client id |
| 21:00.21 | simonlnu | ff definitely not, they stopped ppc support in 4, the bastiges |
| 21:00.36 | pachyderm | it is a decaying architecture |
| 21:00.43 | pachyderm | outside of playstation 3 that is |
| 21:01.04 | simonlnu | icweasel though is different, debian repos will have it |
| 21:01.04 | pachyderm | I always liked it when it was in its prime |
| 21:01.23 | simonlnu | ppc is often used in embedded, almost as much as arm |
| 21:01.29 | simonlnu | brb |
| 21:01.39 | pachyderm | as far as a desktop platform though i mean |
| 21:02.36 | simonlnu | some co's plan on having ppc, but they're small. i wanna get a raspberry pi hehe |
| 21:03.48 | simonlnu | ok, brb, getting some muffins =) |
| 21:04.46 | pachyderm | jelly |
| 21:23.11 | simonlnu | back |
| 21:37.00 | pachyderm | what kind of muffins? |
| 21:37.12 | pachyderm | i really like lemon or pumpkin |
| 21:40.42 | simonlnu | double choco |
| 21:47.15 | pachyderm | nice |
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