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| 06:28.14 | Nalle_ | Morning |
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| 11:59.00 | pahartik | Hello Nalle_ Morning |
| 12:44.11 | Nalle_ | Heya paha |
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| 19:31.13 | dougmencken | hello |
| 19:31.33 | dougmencken | I have decided to move to T2 |
| 19:31.43 | dougmencken | http://t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html |
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| 20:26.56 | simonlnu | t2? /me checks it out |
| 20:27.44 | simonlnu | oh a distro |
| 20:29.12 | simonlnu | cute, though better for clusters, possibly a good choice to get ppc64 going |
| 20:29.32 | simonlnu | i would certainly give it a try out |
| 20:29.36 | simonlnu | dougmencken: ^^ |
| 20:30.51 | dougmencken | yeah |
| 20:30.55 | dougmencken | the problem is |
| 20:31.37 | dougmencken | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.19 | dougmencken | it failed at < tenth package |
| 20:32.30 | simonlnu | !> add --enable-cxx to the configuration options. |
| 20:32.34 | simonlnu | clue |
| 20:32.38 | dougmencken | yes, I got it |
| 20:33.00 | simonlnu | you sure? and you should probably ask them, not here ;) |
| 20:33.16 | dougmencken | ~/t2_distro/t2-trunk/src.ppl.system.20120305.123926.26519.g5/ERROR-LOG >> http://pastebin.com/LhYU8g3j |
| 20:33.24 | dougmencken | simonlnu: I did, yes |
| 20:33.48 | dougmencken | there's only one developer; like me with my manulix :) |
| 20:35.31 | simonlnu | sorry not seeing it |
| 20:35.33 | simonlnu | ok |
| 20:37.56 | dougmencken | not seenig what? checking how to link with libgmpxx... << this is a spot |
| 20:39.28 | dougmencken | my debian problem is http://pastebin.com/b9J6Qjum |
| 20:39.55 | dougmencken | I had a great damage of 2Tb hard drive |
| 20:40.31 | dougmencken | logical damage; only OS X tool (paid one, it costs $149.95) was able to heal my drive |
| 20:41.20 | dougmencken | partially, very partially, about 60% of data has been lost |
| 20:42.10 | simonlnu | yikes :( |
| 20:42.41 | dougmencken | yep, I was told never use non-ext drives in linux |
| 20:42.57 | dougmencken | but I do need to have anexchange |
| 20:43.19 | dougmencken | with os x; and os x can't even read ext4 volumes |
| 20:43.36 | dougmencken | so I chose hfs+, non-journaled |
| 20:46.39 | dougmencken | the very interesting fact is that os x 10.7.x (and even 10.8) does/will use hfs+ too |
| 20:47.12 | simonlnu | it can do ext2 ok |
| 20:47.23 | dougmencken | and nobody in gnu/linux world cares about having a cool and stable hfs+ driver (like ntfs-3g for x86-only windows family of oses) |
| 20:47.37 | simonlnu | there's some 3rd partydrivers for os x |
| 20:47.56 | dougmencken | yep, only ext2; and ext2 is non-journaled too |
| 20:48.03 | simonlnu | i know. os x is like the neglected step-child of bsd |
| 20:48.06 | dougmencken | I used it before, and lost data |
| 20:48.56 | dougmencken | simonlnu: but why gnu/linux world likes ntfs better than hfs+? |
| 20:49.07 | dougmencken | is ntfs documentede better maybe? |
| 20:49.43 | dougmencken | (I doubt it, I saw a lot of hfs+ official publically avail docs) |
| 20:50.35 | dougmencken | and ext2 is even more volatile than hfs+ |
| 20:50.43 | dougmencken | (non-journaled) |
| 20:51.26 | dougmencken | maybe does it worth to send that dmesg log to lkml? |
| 21:09.39 | simonlnu | for various reasons, mostly because x86 is more common. ext2 isn't volatile, it's stable. the os x <-> ext2 however is. |
| 21:10.13 | simonlnu | more people to debug it, more people to fix it. |
| 21:10.38 | dougmencken | like benh did |
| 21:10.55 | dougmencken | he did wrote over 80% of all linux kernel for ppc |
| 21:11.16 | simonlnu | yes, and was for a long time that way. |
| 21:11.26 | dougmencken | and he alsmost disappeared since 2007 |
| 21:11.42 | dougmencken | the ppc kernel is still in that state |
| 21:11.52 | simonlnu | he doesn't come in this channel any more, but he's still in #mklinux AFAIK |
| 21:12.16 | dougmencken | I was there... there's no mklinux anymore, you know |
| 21:12.30 | dougmencken | (not channel, but the project) |
| 21:13.44 | dougmencken | he sometimes does appear on videocard's channels (#radeon, #nouveau) |
| 21:13.54 | simonlnu | i know; the chan still exists |
| 21:14.00 | simonlnu | *nods* |
| 21:15.29 | dougmencken | on some side, you know that you do use the most advanced hardware on this planet; on the other side, you do realize that nobody cares about it anymore... |
| 21:16.14 | dougmencken | the constant fight |
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| 21:48.15 | dougmencken | hmm... http://debian-ppc64.alioth.debian.org/ --> The requested URL / was not found on this server. |
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| 23:52.31 | simonlnu | pretty much |
| 23:53.05 | simonlnu | file a bug on i think websites or alioth, can't remember. or just email the site maintainers |