| 08:10.31 | *** join/#debianppc Nalle_ (~janik@a91-153-38-154.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 08:10.51 | Nalle_ | Morning |
| 08:37.07 | pahartik | Hello Nalle_ Morning |
| 08:37.21 | Nalle_ | Morning paha |
| 10:00.16 | *** join/#debianppc libertyprime (~libertypr@182.236.125.102) |
| 19:58.28 | *** join/#debianppc rainfyre (~rainfyre@228.sub-166-250-10.myvzw.com) |
| 19:58.57 | rainfyre | hello everyone |
| 20:05.41 | pahartik | Hello rainfyre |
| 20:07.15 | rainfyre | hi pahartik |
| 20:07.41 | Nalle_ | 'ey rainfyre |
| 20:07.54 | rainfyre | I'm looking at installing ppc squeeze on my partner's G5 tower this weekend, just wanted to check into the irc channel and say hi :) |
| 20:08.13 | rainfyre | hey Nalle_ ! |
| 20:08.36 | pahartik | rainfyre: Very good |
| 20:09.03 | rainfyre | yeah |
| 20:09.05 | Nalle_ | I'd need to do the same to free the G4 MDD to other use |
| 20:09.16 | rainfyre | I've installed squeeze on my g4 powerbook, but it was a while ago |
| 20:09.22 | Nalle_ | When a cheap G5 comes around, I'll grab one :) |
| 20:09.23 | rainfyre | yea |
| 20:09.29 | rainfyre | heh |
| 20:09.33 | rainfyre | they're awesome machines |
| 20:09.43 | rainfyre | do any of you prefer ppc over intel? |
| 20:10.11 | Nalle_ | PPC is nice, too bad it didn't take off on the desktop market |
| 20:10.20 | rainfyre | or are there any advantages? |
| 20:10.23 | rainfyre | yeah |
| 20:10.33 | Nalle_ | Well, PPC is two decades newer arch |
| 20:10.39 | Nalle_ | So it is much more modern |
| 20:11.15 | Nalle_ | On the other hand, on the x86 CPUs thesedays, there isn't much of the old legacy x86 there. They are all modern RISC CPUs at the core with just a x86 front-end for compatibility purposes |
| 20:12.17 | rainfyre | ok |
| 20:12.22 | rainfyre | ppc is newer than intel? |
| 20:12.28 | Nalle_ | Sure |
| 20:12.31 | rainfyre | wow |
| 20:12.41 | Nalle_ | x86 is based on 1970s roots, PPC is 1990s CPU |
| 20:12.53 | rainfyre | wow |
| 20:13.05 | rainfyre | I had no idea |
| 20:13.39 | rainfyre | I was just browsing the arch linux ppc homepage. |
| 20:14.12 | rainfyre | cool to see that there is active development for ppc happening |
| 20:14.53 | Nalle_ | Yeah, PPC and ARM are still going strong, but in the embedded sector. Not on mainstream desktop. |
| 20:16.14 | rainfyre | ok |
| 20:16.39 | rainfyre | what do you mean that ppc is going strong in the embedded sector? what would be an example of that? |
| 20:17.00 | Nalle_ | Various routers for example use embedded PPC CPU |
| 20:17.40 | rainfyre | oh ok |
| 20:17.40 | rainfyre | :) |
| 20:17.43 | rainfyre | that's cool |
| 20:17.52 | rainfyre | what are you using right now, Nalle_ ? |
| 20:18.05 | Nalle_ | This machine? This is an G4 MDD Mac |
| 20:18.09 | Nalle_ | Running debian/ppc :) |
| 20:18.25 | rainfyre | I'm on my old G4 powerbook. running debian ppc :) |
| 20:18.29 | rainfyre | I love this thing |
| 20:18.42 | rainfyre | what's a MDD mac? I can just google it.. |
| 20:18.51 | Nalle_ | Well, this is a server machine, running headless :) |
| 20:18.59 | rainfyre | sweet |
| 20:19.08 | rainfyre | that's so cool |
| 20:19.26 | Nalle_ | Acts as my LAN server and also has apache and sshd that can be reached from outside (http://gargoyle.dyndns.info/) |
| 20:19.36 | rainfyre | wow |
| 20:20.10 | rainfyre | I've been talking with my g/f about what to install on her G5 |
| 20:20.25 | rainfyre | she wants squeeze because she runs that on her lenovo |
| 20:20.26 | rainfyre | and loves it |
| 20:20.32 | Nalle_ | nods |
| 20:21.18 | Nalle_ | Haven't run Linux as a desktop OS in years. |
| 20:21.33 | rainfyre | wow. really? |
| 20:21.36 | Nalle_ | My desktop machines (Amiga 4000 and iMac) run AmigaOS 3.9 and OS X respectively |
| 20:21.39 | rainfyre | what do you use for desktop? |
| 20:21.43 | rainfyre | wow |
| 20:21.49 | rainfyre | amiga 4000? |
| 20:21.53 | Nalle_ | Yea |
| 20:22.12 | rainfyre | wow |
| 20:22.32 | rainfyre | googling amiga 4000 |
| 20:22.47 | rainfyre | I have a mac mini that gets used less than any of my other computers. |
| 20:22.58 | rainfyre | it's awesome, fast, and I just prefer linux to osx |
| 20:22.59 | Nalle_ | PPC based? |
| 20:23.07 | rainfyre | no, intel, it's a newer one |
| 20:23.12 | Nalle_ | Ack |
| 20:23.17 | rainfyre | got it for my business and never use it :p |
| 20:23.22 | Nalle_ | Heh |
| 20:23.26 | rainfyre | heh :) |
| 20:23.59 | rainfyre | I run arch linux on one laptop and Linux Mint Debian Edition (testing) on the other one |
| 20:24.06 | rainfyre | squeeze on this one |
| 20:24.29 | Nalle_ | I like OS X. It is UNIX'ey but you do not have to deal with any of it if you do not want to. You can just use it and everything just works BUT if you want, it still has fully blown UNIX environment underneath and a real shell and can compile all the standard GNU apps that use GCC and normal toolchain etc |
| 20:25.21 | rainfyre | yes |
| 20:27.54 | rainfyre | and what do you do with that amiga 4000? |
| 20:30.15 | rainfyre | bbl. thanks for all the input and information |
| 23:46.31 | svu | can anyone tell - what could be the reason for the input driver to see usuall usb mice but not logitech unifying device? |