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| 07:42.49 | rainfyre | does anyone else in here use a powerbook g4 with debian squeeze by any chance? |
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| 15:57.22 | Wizard | Hi. |
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| 16:48.58 | dougmencken | hi guys; what does this mean: W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_i18n_Translation-en Hash Sum mismatch |
| 16:49.20 | dougmencken | E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 16:49.25 | dougmencken | and upgrade fails |
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| 20:13.16 | crond | Hi, anyone around who can help me out with an xorg problem? |
| 20:13.27 | dougmencken | crond: which one? |
| 20:14.27 | crond | dougmencken: well, I have a Rev C imac g5, with a Radeon x600. Essentially, if I have radeon.modeset=1, I can load Xorg, etc, and glxinfo *claims* I have DRI, but everything is very very slow - videos dont play properly (i.e. 2 frames a second, maybe), 37 in glxgears, etc. |
| 20:14.48 | crond | if I use radeon.modeset=0, xorg locks up my entire system and I have to hard reboot |
| 20:14.49 | dougmencken | crond: glxinfo | grep -i renderer |
| 20:15.04 | dougmencken | crond: what does airlied on #radeon say? |
| 20:15.50 | crond | dougmencken: renderer is mesa, and uhm... I haven't checked on #radeon. I googled it, and it apparently has been some sort of issue with this card for a while. |
| 20:16.09 | dougmencken | crond: mesa? really? so it's not soft rendering |
| 20:16.39 | crond | dougmencken: yeah, there's just some sort of major issue because performance is atrocious :( |
| 20:16.55 | dougmencken | crond: can you pastebin dmesg output? |
| 20:18.04 | dougmencken | and Xorg.0.log too, crond |
| 20:18.30 | crond | dougmencken: not at the moment, i went back to OSX... it is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=607767 <-- that bug, however. If necessary, I can boot off a live usb and get the logs though. |
| 20:18.46 | dougmencken | crond: real long would help much more |
| 20:18.51 | dougmencken | s/long/logs/ |
| 20:19.13 | crond | okay I'll have to figure out how to get my live usb to stop before it locks up. |
| 20:19.17 | crond | so I can get the logs |
| 20:19.46 | dougmencken | Tue, 21 Dec 2010 << hell, old bug |
| 20:19.51 | crond | yeah |
| 20:20.06 | crond | but apparently it's specific to the revC imac g5 with that radeon card :S |
| 20:20.09 | dougmencken | crond: message to control to rise it to imporatnt |
| 20:20.52 | dougmencken | crond: there're about 10 radeon mac edition cards |
| 20:21.02 | crond | dougmencken: how do I do that? I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with how to do bug reports for debian |
| 20:21.50 | dougmencken | crond: control@bugs.debian.org ; in body: severity 607767 important |
| 20:21.59 | crond | okay, will do |
| 20:23.30 | crond | okay done |
| 20:24.01 | dougmencken | control ate that? |
| 20:24.26 | dougmencken | ah, it tooks hours usually |
| 20:24.33 | crond | well I sent it |
| 20:24.39 | crond | it hasnt spit anything back |
| 20:25.53 | crond | I wish I had the expertise to diagnose and fix it, I really really want off of leopard. This is my only PC, so I'd like a modern OS. lol |
| 20:25.55 | dougmencken | crond: it will, eventually |
| 20:26.15 | dougmencken | crond: cool; you came to the right place |
| 20:27.02 | crond | everything else worked, at least, got my firmwares installed, had sound, wifi, etc. Just the video issue remains. |
| 20:27.16 | dougmencken | crond: which machine are you on? |
| 20:28.15 | crond | dougmencken: Revision C iMac G5 ( http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_g5_2.1_20.html ) |
| 20:28.20 | crond | the one with the built-in isight |
| 20:28.23 | dougmencken | ah yep, sorry |
| 20:29.30 | dougmencken | I do have iMac G5 too; my main machines are 4 x Power Mac G5 Late 2005 liquid-cooled 2.5 2x2core 970MP ones |
| 20:30.06 | crond | there's some threads about this same issue in ubuntu and mintppc - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1723114 and http://www.mintppc.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=69 |
| 20:30.11 | dougmencken | my iMac is 8,1 |
| 20:30.27 | crond | though I get a black screen with mouse cursor, then xorg locks up my entire machine |
| 20:30.33 | dougmencken | crond: what does lspci say for your card? |
| 20:31.42 | dougmencken | crond: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671103 << this is what I have with my ATi Rage 128 cards |
| 20:32.01 | crond | I'm on OS X right now, I know it detects it properly as a radeon, etc. I'm re-downloading a live image right now to write to USB, then I'll boot into it and try and save logs I can then provide |
| 20:33.04 | dougmencken | crond: okay |
| 20:34.47 | dougmencken | crond: and also, ask airlied on #radeon |
| 20:35.01 | crond | Okay |
| 20:35.05 | dougmencken | crond: he's a great guy |
| 20:37.22 | crond | apparently I can't talk on that channel |
| 20:37.32 | dougmencken | hmm.. why? |
| 20:37.59 | crond | [15:37] <crond> test [15:37] == Cannot send to channel: #radeon |
| 20:38.05 | dougmencken | crond: try to /query airlied |
| 20:38.27 | dougmencken | crond: ah, they introduced "only those who registered with nickserv"... ah |
| 20:39.30 | crond | I'm authed, I think |
| 20:39.37 | crond | oh guess not |
| 20:39.40 | dougmencken | +s-ed? |
| 20:39.52 | crond | [15:39] -NickServ- You are already logged in as crond. |
| 20:40.24 | dougmencken | you need just airlied |
| 20:40.40 | crond | I've messaged him |
| 20:40.44 | dougmencken | cool |
| 20:41.03 | crond | ty for helping |
| 20:41.24 | crond | the things I do to be able to play minecraft ;) lol |
| 20:41.29 | dougmencken | ah, no problem |
| 20:41.37 | dougmencken | crond: you wouldn't be able |
| 20:41.58 | dougmencken | crond: minecraft engine uses proprietary little-endin only stuff |
| 20:42.15 | crond | nooo! oh well. |
| 20:42.24 | crond | Still, I'd like to be able to watch vlc ;) |
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| 20:43.21 | dougmencken | crond: I was on the duty to figure out how to make minecraft work on BE machines... |
| 20:43.42 | dougmencken | actually, it's impossible; license doesn't allow you |
| 20:44.12 | dougmencken | they do use some lib |
| 20:44.20 | dougmencken | lemme recall its name |
| 20:45.03 | dougmencken | lwjgl |
| 20:45.10 | crond | oh that doesnt exist for ppc? |
| 20:45.59 | dougmencken | crond: it does; but they don't want to adopt it; they don't care |
| 20:46.05 | crond | weird. |
| 20:46.15 | crond | oh well though. |
| 20:46.26 | crond | there are other things to do. There's always tuxracer! |
| 20:46.54 | dougmencken | supertux too, heh |
| 20:47.10 | dougmencken | I just finished with Alien Arena |
| 20:47.59 | crond | well once my video is working, I will check out some games :) |
| 20:48.14 | dougmencken | crond: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=446515 |
| 20:48.39 | dougmencken | do you know what is funny? |
| 20:48.48 | crond | what? |
| 20:48.56 | dougmencken | debian maints built packages since 2007 |
| 20:49.03 | dougmencken | non-working ones |
| 20:49.14 | dougmencken | alien arena with data is ~1 GiB |
| 20:49.17 | crond | lol... geez |
| 20:49.25 | dougmencken | yeah |
| 20:49.50 | dougmencken | my current bug is libreoffice's base |
| 20:50.06 | dougmencken | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48567 |
| 20:50.16 | dougmencken | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=585829 |
| 20:50.41 | dougmencken | that's funny too... LO base never worked on PowerPC |
| 20:50.49 | dougmencken | (even OO.o didn't) |
| 20:50.54 | dougmencken | but they packaged it |
| 20:52.40 | crond | weird. I'm guessing people are just packaging stuff without testing it |
| 20:53.28 | dougmencken | bingo; they do; the maint's rule: "if it builds and works for me on x86, and build on some-arch, then it is okay for some-arch too" ;) |
| 20:53.52 | dougmencken | s/uild/uilds/ |
| 20:54.00 | dougmencken | heh |
| 20:54.15 | crond | okay back in a few, I need to reboot |
| 20:58.01 | dougmencken | s/uild/uilds/2 |
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