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| 03:04.19 | simonlnu | try pinging something... |
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| 11:25.43 | pahartik | Hello Nalle_ Morning |
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| 11:52.36 | dougmencken | hi |
| 11:52.55 | dougmencken | I updated current Sid and got no networking at all |
| 11:53.04 | dougmencken | ping 127.0.0.1 gives "Network not reachable" |
| 11:57.00 | pahartik | dougmencken: How about "ping6 -n -c 2 ::1"? |
| 12:07.46 | dougmencken | pahartik: I do have only ipv4 |
| 12:07.55 | dougmencken | my routers don't support ipv6 |
| 12:08.14 | dougmencken | ip addr show now shows only ipv6 stuff |
| 12:08.22 | dougmencken | are debian folks crazy? |
| 12:08.41 | dougmencken | (to force everybody to be stuck with only ipv6) |
| 12:12.09 | dougmencken | and no, ping6 -n -c 2 ::1 says "Network is unreachable" too |
| 12:12.29 | dougmencken | yesterday everything was okay (before dist-upgrade) |
| 12:47.31 | simonlnu | uh, don't make up things. check your logs, and check your interfaces file |
| 12:59.05 | dougmencken | which logs? |
| 12:59.14 | dougmencken | what are "interfaces files"? |
| 12:59.19 | simonlnu | syslog e.g. |
| 12:59.32 | simonlnu | file. /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:59.32 | dougmencken | dmesg? |
| 12:59.53 | dougmencken | okay, will look |
| 13:04.19 | simonlnu | also try enabling bootlogd, since that catches early stuff, and reboot |
| 13:06.17 | dougmencken | I'm on another machine now; G4 |
| 13:07.57 | dougmencken | /etc/network/interfaces from G5: |
| 13:08.17 | simonlnu | paste bin it somewhere |
| 13:08.47 | dougmencken | auto lo ; iface lo inet loopback ; allow-hotplug eth0 ; iface eth0 inet dhcp hostname 192.168.0.1 |
| 13:09.10 | dougmencken | (I didn't typed comments ;) |
| 13:09.44 | dougmencken | simonlnu: I wonder how to do pastebin anything from networkless machine :) |
| 13:09.54 | simonlnu | yeh, never mind ;) |
| 13:10.37 | simonlnu | well, you're missing things there, like address |
| 13:10.47 | simonlnu | iface lo inet loopback |
| 13:10.48 | simonlnu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.48 | simonlnu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.48 | simonlnu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.48 | simonlnu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.50 | dougmencken | doesn't it dhcp job? |
| 13:10.56 | simonlnu | not on lo no |
| 13:11.05 | simonlnu | you need lo to be up to do anything |
| 13:11.19 | dougmencken | hmm, okay |
| 13:11.30 | simonlnu | it's like the foundation of a western house |
| 13:12.01 | dougmencken | does edit interfaces file now |
| 13:12.20 | simonlnu | ip addr sh dev lo |
| 13:12.20 | simonlnu | 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN |
| 13:12.20 | simonlnu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.21 | simonlnu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.18 | dougmencken | I edited it, saved, and pingled 127.0.0.1 -- "network is unreachable" |
| 13:13.32 | simonlnu | well, you need to bring it up now |
| 13:13.42 | simonlnu | ifup lo |
| 13:13.43 | dougmencken | ah... |
| 13:13.51 | dougmencken | btw, where's 'ifconfig'? |
| 13:13.56 | simonlnu | then ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 |
| 13:14.03 | simonlnu | /sbin/ |
| 13:14.09 | dougmencken | ifup -- command not found |
| 13:14.34 | simonlnu | also /sbin |
| 13:14.42 | dougmencken | /sbin/ifconfig prints nothing |
| 13:14.49 | simonlnu | sounds like your PATH isn't set |
| 13:14.49 | dougmencken | but is present |
| 13:15.03 | dougmencken | $PATH is okay |
| 13:15.24 | dougmencken | maybe my cron doing apt-get -y autoremove is a bad idea... |
| 13:15.31 | simonlnu | if root's PATH doesn't have /sbin entries no it isn't |
| 13:15.33 | dougmencken | so it removed a lot of stuff maybe |
| 13:15.52 | dougmencken | simonlnu: /usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin... it has everything |
| 13:15.52 | simonlnu | um, yes, that's usually a bad idea ;) |
| 13:15.59 | simonlnu | hm ok |
| 13:16.27 | simonlnu | you might want to look at unattended-upgrades and cron-apt |
| 13:16.54 | dougmencken | so... how to resurrect the system? try to serach for .debs for ifup and so? download them, put on usb flash and dpkg -i?? |
| 13:17.21 | simonlnu | moment |
| 13:17.35 | dougmencken | and *how* can networking stuff be removed on after upgrade? |
| 13:17.46 | simonlnu | aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant |
| 13:18.08 | dougmencken | on networkless machine? |
| 13:18.51 | dougmencken | and yes, I don't have aptitude, i'm using apt-get, apt-cache, apt-file |
| 13:18.54 | simonlnu | um, if you can't find ifup there in /sbin you could fetch netbase (and deps) and stick it on that usb stick sure |
| 13:19.12 | dougmencken | okay, will do |
| 13:20.02 | simonlnu | once you get the network up - oh do you have iproute2 there? |
| 13:20.11 | simonlnu | you can do the aptitude thing |
| 13:23.35 | pahartik | simonlnu: One can set network up just fine if there is "ip", for example "sudo ip li set dev eth0 up" is enough for IPv6 autoconfiguration to take place |
| 13:23.54 | simonlnu | that's why i was asking about iproute2 ;) |
| 13:24.59 | dougmencken | ip [tab] gives me -- ip ip6tables ip6tables-apply ip6tables-restore ip6tables-save ipcmk ipcrm ipcs ipmaddr ipptool iproxy iptables iptables-apply iptables-restore iptables-save iptables-xm iptunnel |
| 13:25.04 | dougmencken | no "iproute2" |
| 13:25.39 | dougmencken | pahartik: the problem is that my provider will be on ipv6 not earlier than in 2112 |
| 13:31.26 | pahartik | dougmencken: I use tunnels for my subnets on wired and mobile networks |
| 13:39.15 | dougmencken | doesn't have any wireless devices and wirless stations |
| 13:46.38 | simonlnu | dougmencken: ip is from iproute2 |
| 13:46.59 | simonlnu | so yes you can do that |
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| 22:43.47 | svu | anyone having troubles with debian testing on ppc64, gdm3 restarting endlessly? |
| 22:44.35 | simonlnu | it restarting means there's a problem with xorg |
| 22:44.45 | simonlnu | or, with the session |
| 22:45.44 | svu | simonlnu, how would I check? |
| 22:46.11 | simonlnu | the Xorg.0.log or gdm logs. sometimes syslog is helpful |
| 22:49.34 | svu | simonlnu, http://pastebin.com/9dZ9ZWXx |
| 22:49.38 | svu | X crashes |
| 22:53.03 | simonlnu | yikes, segfault... check the bts (bugs.debian.org/xorg) and look for some ppc bugs and radeon (also xf86-video-ati) |
| 23:10.30 | svu | simonlnu, well, nothing for ppc |