| 00:17.40 | deasy | Valandil: plop |
| 00:18.23 | deasy | yes it's new world |
| 00:18.54 | deasy | boot to usb hmm |
| 00:19.03 | deasy | Valandil: i think not possible |
| 00:19.20 | deasy | mac boot on firewire but not usb |
| 00:19.31 | deasy | (note i'm not so experienced in mac) |
| 00:19.37 | deasy | but i have read that today |
| 00:27.35 | Valandil | deasy, thanks for the reply.... reading more on google.... |
| 00:28.06 | deasy | i have install two mac with debian today :) |
| 00:28.22 | deasy | one imac g3 500 and one imac g4 700 |
| 00:28.41 | deasy | that's the first time i touch machines |
| 00:29.03 | deasy | i'm not familliar with mac |
| 00:29.47 | deasy | memory use on the g3 is 36Mo and g4 is 40Mo |
| 00:29.57 | deasy | without X of course |
| 00:31.00 | Valandil | did you create duo boot? or just replace os x? |
| 00:31.19 | Valandil | I would like to preserve the os x on the g4..... |
| 00:32.12 | deasy | i have all deleted |
| 00:32.24 | deasy | because apple don't support this two mac |
| 00:32.59 | deasy | Valandil: the debian documentation explain how to preserve and make dualboot |
| 00:33.26 | Valandil | do you have a link? |
| 00:33.45 | deasy | i have read that in french but that must be in english too |
| 00:34.24 | deasy | wait |
| 00:34.34 | Valandil | I seriously thought about mintppc that is based on debian. |
| 00:35.15 | Valandil | thank you deasy... |
| 00:35.47 | deasy | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/pr01.html.en |
| 00:35.50 | deasy | read this |
| 00:35.54 | deasy | slowly :) |
| 00:36.37 | Valandil | okay..... thanks again.... |
| 00:36.50 | Valandil | how did the debian run you your machines....? |
| 00:37.14 | deasy | you have some page who talk about dualboot and preservation |
| 00:37.24 | deasy | but i advice you to read almost |
| 00:37.39 | deasy | (sorry for my bad english) |
| 00:38.18 | deasy | i don't understand your last sentence |
| 00:39.04 | deasy | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/index.html.en |
| 00:39.07 | Valandil | your two mac installs today with debian, Did they work well.... |
| 00:39.34 | deasy | yes |
| 00:39.41 | deasy | it works perfectly |
| 00:39.47 | Valandil | great news... ! |
| 00:39.56 | deasy | for server |
| 00:39.59 | deasy | i don't have try user side |
| 00:40.37 | Valandil | okay,,, what application firewall, print server? |
| 00:40.46 | deasy | both start with the prompt and no error :) |
| 00:40.56 | deasy | like all linux |
| 00:41.07 | deasy | cups and iptables |
| 00:41.18 | Valandil | okay.. thanks for your kindness. |
| 00:42.09 | deasy | like apple don't support this hardware... if debian works really well i recommand to quit os x |
| 00:42.27 | deasy | because all security issues are never fixed |
| 00:42.39 | deasy | and you stay with old software ever |
| 00:43.19 | deasy | maybe i try userside on the g3 500 a day |
| 00:43.37 | deasy | the g4 700 is convert to server :) |
| 00:44.08 | deasy | ppc is nice because software use less memory than x86 |
| 00:44.59 | Valandil | well I even considered BSD,,,, and may place this on partition if I totally give up on os x in the future.... |
| 00:45.06 | deasy | yes me too |
| 00:45.18 | deasy | debian or free/netBSD for the server |
| 00:45.37 | deasy | i'm curious to know how much memory that use |
| 00:46.14 | Valandil | I guess we are of similar mind.... not sure what bsd apps exist, possibly more than linux? |
| 00:46.35 | deasy | i dont know |
| 00:46.53 | deasy | if you want a full desk env on bsd i recommand kde |
| 00:47.07 | deasy | because gnome don't support alot other thing than linux kernel |
| 00:47.26 | deasy | that's "linux centric" |
| 00:47.48 | Valandil | yeah, I am not a command line expert... GUI is nice.... |
| 00:48.09 | Valandil | just a weekend hobby.... |
| 00:49.12 | Valandil | I am impressed mostly with puppy linux running totally in ram.... if you not try I recommend rexbang puppy linux. |
| 00:49.31 | Valandil | just no puppy linux for ppc architecture,,,, sad but true... |
| 00:49.47 | deasy | damn small linux is also impressing |
| 00:51.30 | deasy | impressive* lol |
| 00:51.48 | Valandil | yes but is it still maintained? other small linux are tiny core and slitaz..... |
| 00:52.10 | deasy | slitaz is good for cracking windows xp password |
| 00:52.15 | deasy | wait |
| 00:52.24 | deasy | not it's ophcrack |
| 00:52.30 | deasy | a distro based on slitaz |
| 00:53.06 | Valandil | did not know about that one.. |
| 00:53.15 | deasy | Valandil: not really maintained i think |
| 00:53.27 | deasy | i have use that long time ago |
| 00:53.31 | deasy | on a xbox |
| 00:53.36 | deasy | (xdsl) |
| 00:55.08 | Valandil | I also read about yellowdog for ppc but not tried this ... did see it on youtube .... |
| 00:55.37 | deasy | yes that run on ps3 |
| 00:56.01 | Valandil | I mainly wanted small ppc distro similar to puppy that runs totally in ram when booted live.... |
| 00:56.58 | Valandil | did not find such a distro... yet.... |
| 00:57.16 | deasy | knoopix is alwaus maintained? |
| 00:57.23 | deasy | that the first distro to be live |
| 00:57.27 | deasy | always* |
| 00:57.52 | Valandil | hmm.... good idea... will check to see if ppc variant exists... |
| 00:57.56 | deasy | yes always maintained |
| 01:01.03 | deasy | https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/16/ppc/ |
| 01:01.09 | deasy | i use this distro on my pc |
| 01:01.41 | deasy | oops |
| 01:01.46 | deasy | no live sorry |
| 01:03.29 | deasy | i search if live |
| 01:03.37 | Valandil | looking for knoppix ppc variant now.. |
| 01:07.16 | deasy | hmm matter here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_live_CDs |
| 01:07.23 | deasy | i go sleep |
| 01:09.03 | deasy | Valandil: http://www.finnix.org/ |
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