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| 05:16.51 | Nalle_ | Morning |
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| 06:10.27 | simonlnu | hey |
| 06:10.50 | Nalle_ | Hey simon |
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| 17:25.50 | ARBrad | Is yaboot known to stop macs from being able to boot official mac OS cds? |
| 17:36.17 | simonlnu | no |
| 17:36.44 | simonlnu | press c after the boing |
| 17:36.58 | ARBrad | Did that. |
| 17:37.01 | ARBrad | Held "option" |
| 17:37.21 | ARBrad | Tried boot from from open firmware. Reset PRAM and NVRAM. pressed the reset button on the system itself. |
| 17:37.52 | ARBrad | None worked. |
| 17:41.10 | simonlnu | ok, so you're trying to boot a cd, right? maybe the cd is defective (now)? |
| 17:42.42 | ARBrad | Ripped a working image of the disc. |
| 17:43.02 | ARBrad | And poweriso is able to examine all the contents located inside of it. |
| 17:43.04 | simonlnu | ok |
| 17:43.34 | simonlnu | so, what *does* happen? you haven't said anything about that. |
| 17:44.40 | ARBrad | I put the CD in, I start up. When I hold the "C" key, nothing happens and it goes straight into Yaboot. When I hold the "option" key, it only lists the hard drive as bootable. When I use my Debian CD in place of my Mac OS CD, the Debian disc appears as a bootable option. |
| 17:45.33 | ARBrad | Ever since I cleared the PRAM and NVRAM, when I boot, instead of flashing between a question mark and smiley face like before, now it just goes right into Yaboot without displaying this animation. |
| 17:45.38 | simonlnu | this after you've zapped the pram too? |
| 17:45.42 | ARBrad | Yes. |
| 17:45.48 | ARBrad | And reset-all. |
| 17:46.48 | simonlnu | what sort of box is this? |
| 17:46.56 | simonlnu | i.e., model |
| 17:47.15 | ARBrad | iBook G3 clamshell, Indigo model, PPC G3 @ 366MHz, 128mb of RAM. |
| 17:48.08 | simonlnu | (you might want to increase the ram later on, it'd be more pleasant to use, ppcs like lots of ram) |
| 17:48.13 | simonlnu | how odd |
| 17:48.40 | simonlnu | hmm, try this. re-run ybin in debian, then set boot to macboot |
| 17:48.46 | simonlnu | in nvsetenv |
| 17:48.54 | ARBrad | ybin? |
| 17:49.05 | ARBrad | Is this a file or a program? |
| 17:49.08 | simonlnu | yeh, it installs yaboot |
| 17:49.14 | ARBrad | oh I see. |
| 17:49.56 | simonlnu | even if 'macboot' doesn't exist, it'd be good to try. you should run ybin when you make a change to yaboot.conf |
| 17:50.29 | simonlnu | also, look into adding the cdboot option in your conf. man yaboot.conf has it, iirc |
| 17:50.32 | ARBrad | Where would I find this? Just by running ybin in a terminal or by using my CD? |
| 17:51.24 | simonlnu | the macboot thing you would do nvsetenv boot macboot. run nvsetenv by itself to see your nvram |
| 17:51.40 | simonlnu | terminal, of course |
| 17:53.56 | ARBrad | Ok. |
| 17:53.58 | ARBrad | I did that. |
| 17:54.16 | ARBrad | So, reset and test again? |
| 17:54.23 | simonlnu | also, there's an easter egg in ybin (add -v option) |
| 17:54.56 | simonlnu | nah, just reboot. it might error out when OF kicks in, but that's intentional (with that 'macboot' thing). |
| 18:04.36 | ARBrad | Ok, it rebooted staight into Yaboot like it did before. |
| 18:07.59 | simonlnu | ok, so, did you add the cdrom boot option to your conf? i would if you haven't (though it's probably already there) |
| 18:09.05 | ARBrad | Yaboot.conf has the line "enablecdboot" in it |
| 18:10.37 | simonlnu | ok, there should also be a mac os x boot option as well if you have a mostly default conf |
| 18:12.30 | ARBrad | There is |
| 18:12.37 | simonlnu | ok |
| 18:13.00 | simonlnu | you could try booting to the cd via yaboot |
| 18:13.07 | simonlnu | *grin* |
| 18:13.22 | ARBrad | Tried. |
| 18:13.46 | ARBrad | Screen flickers then prompts me to either boot Linux by pressing L or CD by pressing C again |
| 18:13.59 | ARBrad | I press C, then it gives me an error and the whole thing locks up. |
| 18:14.50 | simonlnu | have you tried post your run of ybin? |
| 18:15.17 | ARBrad | ? |
| 18:15.24 | ARBrad | What does that mean? |
| 18:15.43 | simonlnu | have you tried to boot from cd, after your most recent running of the ybin command? |
| 18:16.04 | simonlnu | i admit the grammar there sucked =) |
| 18:16.20 | ARBrad | Yes. Still no dice. |
| 18:17.12 | simonlnu | try the boot cd (or boot cdrom) from OF |
| 18:17.19 | simonlnu | try the boot cd (or boot cdrom) command from OF |
| 18:18.16 | ARBrad | This is quite strange |
| 18:18.21 | ARBrad | It brought me to yaboot. |
| 18:18.36 | ARBrad | Pressing C in yaboot, gives me this error: |
| 18:20.17 | ARBrad | Booting CDROM... parsing <CHRP-BOOT> DEFAULT CATCH!, code=70 at %SRR0: ff80cff4 %SRR1: 0000b030 |
| 18:20.49 | ARBrad | Now it gives me this prompt: 0 > |
| 18:21.34 | ARBrad | This is new, because the error I received before gave no details in the code section, and would not give me a prompt after |
| 18:21.41 | simonlnu | hm ok. of prompt |
| 18:21.57 | simonlnu | do printenv |
| 18:22.05 | simonlnu | see what boot says |
| 18:22.29 | simonlnu | also, boot-image (i'm curious) |
| 18:23.11 | ARBrad | I see neither plain "boot" or "boot-image" listed. |
| 18:23.27 | ARBrad | I do see other items that say boot. |
| 18:23.39 | ARBrad | but followed by something else, like script, device, etc |
| 18:23.51 | simonlnu | ok |
| 18:24.08 | ARBrad | Would you like me to list them? |
| 18:24.10 | ARBrad | And their values? |
| 18:24.13 | simonlnu | on that thing there's probably 2 pages of that |
| 18:24.20 | simonlnu | nah, it's cool |
| 18:24.52 | ARBrad | It said "space to expand" or something. I'm viewing the entire thing now, and I have another OF prompt. |
| 18:25.28 | simonlnu | ok. one more thing. comment out all the mac ox boot thingies in yaboot.conf, re-run ybin, then try again. then try commenting out the cdboot things, and try. then alternate (have mac os x boot things there, but no cdboot). otherwise, i'm out of ideas. |
| 18:25.37 | simonlnu | yeh, that's normal |
| 18:26.33 | ARBrad | Commenting out means putting them in quotations? |
| 18:26.51 | simonlnu | no, you stick a # at the beginning of the line |
| 18:27.00 | ARBrad | ah, alright, gotcha |
| 18:27.19 | simonlnu | putting them in quote marks is "quoting" |
| 18:27.39 | simonlnu | like a string in perl, e.g. |
| 22:09.07 | peterrooney | smells a broken CD burning program |
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