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| 10:41.03 | wiseguysonly | Hi all. I was just wondering if the powerpc port is known to work on the PowerMac 9.1 (1.8GHz PPC) G5? |
| 10:46.24 | Nalle_ | I think it does |
| 10:54.01 | wiseguysonly | I'm not sure how these relate to the Mac models: "New World Mac, Old World Mac" |
| 11:01.04 | Nalle_ | "New World" is G4 onwards |
| 11:01.52 | Nalle_ | I think "New World" Mac's have the OF in them, while "Old World" do not |
| 11:02.14 | Nalle_ | So on "New World" you can boot directly to Linux where as in "Old World", the firmware only knwos how to boot into MacOS so you need an intermediate step |
| 11:02.33 | wiseguysonly | Ok. So from that I guess my G5 is New World |
| 11:02.39 | wiseguysonly | Thanks Nalle_ |
| 11:04.20 | Nalle_ | Yeah |
| 11:20.29 | pahartik | Nalle_: Not quite, but "PowerMacintosh G5" is definitely NewWorld |
| 11:23.14 | pahartik | Nalle_: Few earliest PowerMacintosh models did not have OpenFirmware, that was before OldWorld |
| 11:30.15 | Nalle_ | paha, ah ok :) |
| 11:30.32 | Nalle_ | paha, the earliest here meanas the 60x based? |
| 11:30.42 | Nalle_ | I think G3 also doesn't have OF ? |
| 11:32.12 | pahartik | Nalle_: It does have |
| 11:35.24 | Nalle_ | Oh |
| 11:35.28 | Nalle_ | Didn't know that |
| 11:35.32 | Nalle_ | So it is then the 60x ones that lack OF? |
| 11:36.22 | pahartik | Nalle_: All PowerMacintosh models before OldWorld were based on "PowerPC 601", but after those there were OldWorld models with same CPU... |
| 11:37.21 | Nalle_ | Err.. what? |
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| 14:36.04 | p8m | New world is anything with a usb port |
| 18:33.39 | simonlnu | no, old world has to do with an OF version before 2 |
| 18:34.23 | simonlnu | actually, no, before 3 |
| 18:34.41 | simonlnu | some beige g3s have of version 2b4 |
| 18:35.21 | simonlnu | nubus macs aren't supported very well or at all by linux |
| 18:40.43 | p8m | simonlnu: I stand by my statement. Builtin usb is a way to distinguish old-world vs new-world. I understand that the importance of ow vs nw wrt to linux is the openfirmware version. |
| 18:42.03 | p8m | Does it have a usb port? is an easy question for a user to answer. What version of openfirmware does it have? is harder. |
| 18:49.48 | simonlnu | oh yeh, that too. but the of version goes along with that. the usb thing is definitely easier for ordinary users to answer :). |
| 18:50.28 | simonlnu | notes p8m and himself are on the same page ;) |
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