| 00:02.13 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: That is not issue, they are there by default |
| 00:03.15 | DoctorBTC | so, what can i do to the the command 'arrow up' mapped to ctrl-opt-i or something like that? |
| 00:08.13 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: If kernel passes keyboard events to X11 server, "xev" shows them |
| 00:10.45 | DoctorBTC | well, these keys don't pass any events |
| 00:37.50 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: Did those arrow keys ever work for you with anything? |
| 00:43.14 | DoctorBTC | pahartik: back with it was running osx, i think they worked, but the system was shelved for a few years before i decided to nerd it up with debian |
| 00:43.19 | DoctorBTC | *when |
| 00:43.40 | DoctorBTC | * I know they worked.... |
| 00:44.01 | DoctorBTC | i just don't know if the stopped working physically, or OS-ly |
| 00:44.27 | DoctorBTC | but it looks like they don't respond to xev, so i'm thinking physically |
| 00:45.24 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: Easy test would be booting with "MacOS X install DVD" and trying if arrow keys have normal effect? |
| 00:45.48 | DoctorBTC | i can't find the disc :( |
| 00:46.01 | DoctorBTC | maybe i can scrounge something at work |
| 00:46.24 | DoctorBTC | i think i might have tried that 6mos ago, but now i'm not sure. |
| 00:46.34 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: I do not remember if arrow keys work at "OpenFirmware" prompt... |
| 00:48.43 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: That should be easy test, if one does not mind about rebooting |
| 00:53.01 | DoctorBTC | thx pahartik... i'm going to have to continue this quest tomorrow. I appreciate your help! |
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| 18:32.44 | DoctorBTC | pahartik: you around for some more pestering? |
| 18:33.39 | pahartik | Hello DoctorBTC evening |
| 18:34.26 | DoctorBTC | i tried to use the arrow keys at the firmware prompt... no response (i typed some gibberish, then tried to arrow back) |
| 18:41.03 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: I think it should have worked, but cannot try "NewWorld OpenFirmware" right now... |
| 18:43.15 | DoctorBTC | i'm convinced at this point the keys are busted. so... what to do so I can map 'ctrl-alt-i' or something to the up arrow? |
| 18:57.32 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: I would probably use "xmodmap" for such |
| 19:02.52 | DoctorBTC | pahartik: i have previously investigated it... but i don't understand what i need to do since I can't use xev to get the keycodes for the broken keys |
| 19:03.38 | DoctorBTC | also, will xmodmap work if i only boot to CLI? |
| 19:04.01 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: It does not |
| 19:06.28 | DoctorBTC | i see here the keycodes for the arrow keys... http://help.adobe.com/en_US/AS2LCR/Flash_10.0/help.html?content=00000520.html |
| 19:06.50 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: But that is usually not issue, since one can use "B", "F", "N", "P"... With <Control> or <Meta> keys |
| 19:08.06 | DoctorBTC | pahartik: you just made my computer more usable by telling me that. finally! |
| 19:09.02 | DoctorBTC | that really was all i needed to know. |
| 19:09.31 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: Oh... Well, those are present on "bind -P" output already |
| 19:23.07 | DoctorBTC | So, on another topic now that i'm happy with my setup... should i upgrade it to Wheezy PPC? |
| 19:23.53 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: That seems like good idea... |
| 19:24.39 | DoctorBTC | are there challenges I must face in doing and upgrade? |
| 19:25.43 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: It is not worse than before, on my "Apple iMac G4" |
| 19:26.30 | DoctorBTC | cool... is there a guide you recommend i follow? |
| 19:26.45 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: Straightforward upgrade is kind of beyond my experience |
| 19:27.53 | DoctorBTC | beyond? or beneath? |
| 19:29.02 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: Usually I have "stable", "testing" and "unstable" packages available and upgrade them manually over long time, choosing specific version of each package on "aptitude" |
| 19:33.12 | DoctorBTC | ok... i'm going to have to do some research i guess. |
| 19:33.35 | pahartik | DoctorBTC: Most users run "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" and observe how it goes, I assume |