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| 11:16.10 | danboid | Is mounting of USB drives not working a known bug within Jessie PPC? |
| 11:16.47 | danboid | I've tried under both KDE and XFCE on my friends G5 - neither would mount a USB drive |
| 11:17.05 | danboid | I suspect this is due to systemd |
| 11:17.45 | danboid | I'll prob have to reinstall with with Deb 7 |
| 11:18.33 | danboid | Also, Iceweasel and a bunch of other apps (like Konqueror) stopped working with a jessie update a few weeks back |
| 11:18.54 | danboid | Jessie PPC seems pretty fubar right now |
| 11:24.17 | danboid | These probs were still present when we dist-upgraded a few days ago |
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| 11:27.32 | danboid | Anyone tried mounting USB drives under Jessie? |
| 11:27.51 | danboid | (under a DE / file manager app) |
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| 13:26.19 | pahartik | danboid: Did you succeed mounting from shell? |
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| 14:30.52 | danboid | pahartik: I'll have to try that but installed it for a UNIX-illiterate who won't be (un)mounting from the shell. I don't see why it wouldn't work from the shell |
| 14:31.12 | danboid | *but I installed it |
| 14:31.50 | danboid | pahartik: Are you runnng Jessie PPC? Are you runnng a DE? Does mounting work for you? |
| 14:33.18 | danboid | Under both KDE and XFCE, USB drives would appear on insertion but I'd get a 'device/mount point doesn't exist' type error as soon as I tried mounting them |
| 14:33.42 | danboid | (by clicking on the drives icon under Dolphin/Thunar) |
| 14:33.55 | danboid | systemd prob? |
| 14:35.53 | danboid | TBH I've not tried Jessie on x86 since it went systemd |
| 14:38.49 | danboid | I think systemd has its own udev for (un)mounting that prob has had little to no testing under PPC - at least thats what I suspect |
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| 16:52.47 | pahartik | danboid: I do not have pure "testing" branch running right now, no "systemd" at least |
| 16:53.36 | danboid | pahartik: OK. You've not heard of anyone else having this prob either? |
| 17:18.42 | markos_ | pahartik, I have jessie running on a pbook g4, and afair -don't have it powered on atm- usb automounting works ok, but i'm also using systemd+xfce, so maybe that's it, I could take it out of the closet and test it but it would take a while if you would be willing to wait :) |
| 17:19.55 | danboid | markos_: I'm willing to wait. Whe did you last update it? |
| 17:20.03 | markos_ | couple of weeks ago |
| 17:21.34 | danboid | markos_: and usb autoounting 'just worked' under XFCE or did you have to install / configue something? |
| 17:23.40 | markos_ | well, it doesn't "automount" it, but it shows it on the desktop and I can mount it by just double-clicking on its icon |
| 17:24.00 | markos_ | so, sort of works |
| 17:24.26 | markos_ | but that's an option |
| 17:25.10 | markos_ | ok, changed the xfce settings and automounting (even opening file manager) works on usb stick insertion |
| 17:25.52 | markos_ | so, unless something changed the past 2-3 weeks, then what your friend's ppc experiences is not really ppc-specific, most likely a missing package |
| 17:28.17 | danboid | markos_: Yes, when I said 'automount' I really meant mount on double/single click (depending on DE/file manager settings) |
| 17:29.08 | danboid | markos_: I've never had to install an extra package to get this to work under Debian / Ubuntu - at least not before Systemd came along |
| 17:29.33 | danboid | markos_: I know very little about systemd |
| 17:30.08 | markos_ | tbh, I've never had a problem with systemd on all my systems (ppc/intel/arm), I do understand that special usecases might be problematic for some people, but that didn't happen to me, I guess I was just lucky |
| 17:34.11 | danboid | markos_: All the installed browsers stopped working after an updatea few weeks ago |
| 17:34.31 | markos_ | ok, testing an upgrade |
| 17:34.51 | danboid | markos_: Iceweasel doesn't even load, konq and qupzilla crash as soon as you try to load a page |
| 17:35.02 | markos_ | will take a while the pbook is not really a speed daemon (even if I have replaced it's hd with an ssd) |
| 17:35.06 | danboid | markos_: I'm surprised it still even boots |
| 17:35.49 | danboid | markos_: I expect we'll have to re-install with Deb 7 |
| 17:36.28 | danboid | markos_: Unless all these have been fixed in the last week |
| 17:39.57 | danboid | markos_: I know the Iceweasel not starting bug has reported along with a patch that fixes it but it hadn't made it into the repos as of last week |
| 17:42.21 | markos_ | I'd actually use my pbook much more, if only it wasn't for that damn noisy fan it has |
| 17:43.35 | danboid | markos_: You've tried playing with powersaving / CPU gov settings and its still noisy? |
| 17:43.55 | markos_ | yeah |
| 17:44.17 | danboid | too bad |
| 17:45.02 | markos_ | also replaced the thermal paste with really expensive one, did make it a bit cooler, but did not make much of a difference to the noise |
| 17:49.46 | markos_ | still upgrading, fyi |
| 17:50.12 | danboid | markos_: OK, thanks for the update |
| 17:50.39 | danboid | markos_: I should imagine it'll be at least another 30m+ yet |
| 17:51.09 | markos_ | thanks to the ssd, it's faster than it was, but it's still not very fast, blame the pata bus |
| 17:52.03 | danboid | markos_: So you have the SSD attached to a PATA/SATA adapter then? I've not seen any PATA SSDs |
| 17:52.14 | markos_ | there are, they're just very expensive |
| 17:52.26 | danboid | oh right |
| 17:53.22 | danboid | markos_: I'm going to b edriving home in 5m but I'll be leaving this IRC session open so I can check how you got on when I get home |
| 17:53.46 | markos_ | I got a 1.8" mSATA SSD, connected to a mSATA/44-pin PATA adapter, total cost ~70â¬, and went from ~25MB/s to ~70MB/s with hdparm, not super but at least it doesn't feel that slow anymore :) |
| 17:54.17 | danboid | markos_: Don't say I didn't warn you if you end up with a barely usable install ;) |
| 17:54.24 | markos_ | nah, i'm used to that |
| 17:54.28 | danboid | :) |
| 17:55.14 | danboid | Deb testing is normally pretty stable in my experience on x86. Its not the case on other archs it seems |
| 17:55.36 | markos_ | it's not that bad |
| 17:56.16 | danboid | Not having a working browser without having to compile one yourself is pretty shitty |
| 17:57.12 | danboid | markos_: Thanks for upgrading for me. I'll be back in 45/50m |
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| 19:07.08 | markos_ | danboid, ok, upgrade completed, running 3.16 kernel now, both icewasel + usb automount works just like before |
| 19:18.27 | danboid | markos_: Oh OK. Thanks for the update! If we're lucky those issues will disappear when I dist-upgrade my friends G5 tomorrow unless they're 64bit only bugs |
| 19:19.17 | danboid | Which I suppose could be a possibility |
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