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| 13:55.21 | saptech | hello all |
| 13:55.59 | saptech | so there is no flash plugin for the ppc version? is there a substitute? |
| 14:06.31 | markos_ | saptech, flash is on the way out in general in a few years it won't exist at all, let alone ppc -which it has stopped being supported for years |
| 14:06.47 | markos_ | if you really need flash, I'd suggest you try gnash or lightspark |
| 14:06.56 | markos_ | it may work for you or not |
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| 14:10.31 | cascardo | as for substitutes, there are pygame, vlc, even html5 with video, canvas and JS |
| 14:12.34 | saptech | ok, thanks |
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| 14:38.19 | saptech | I was thinking along the lines of Youtube. Doesn't it use the newer format, html5 or whatever it's called? |
| 14:38.37 | saptech | currently the video show but it's jerky |
| 14:38.56 | saptech | audio is ok |
| 14:39.29 | saptech | i'm using a Mini Mac 2005 |
| 14:55.39 | markos_ | saptech, iirc, youtube switched to html5 recently |
| 14:55.52 | markos_ | so you could view the videos on a modern browser like firefox/iceweasel |
| 14:57.11 | saptech | I am using iceweasel |
| 14:57.40 | saptech | i'm running Wheezy also, which ver of debian are you using? |
| 15:02.32 | saptech | I tried upgrading to Jessie but the system was worser then wheezy |
| 15:07.53 | markos_ | in what way? |
| 15:08.18 | markos_ | i have both a powerbook g4 and an imac g5 both running jessie |
| 15:08.48 | markos_ | in general -and excluding 3d acceleration which doesn't work in either- the systems behave well |
| 15:09.41 | markos_ | i've replaced the old disks with ssds and they're much much more bearable, I only need to fix the fan noise problem in the g5 and it would be great for daily use |
| 15:10.56 | saptech | I read upgrading jessie, I had to do some extra steps for video |
| 15:11.23 | saptech | iceweasel wasn't working like it is now, and I haven't done anything to video with wheezy |
| 15:11.43 | saptech | i'm using original hdd and 1gb mem |
| 15:12.40 | saptech | using iceweasel with jessie was jerky when scrolling |
| 15:13.00 | markos_ | which video driver? |
| 15:13.04 | markos_ | nvidia/ati? |
| 15:13.22 | saptech | ati |
| 15:13.31 | saptech | radeon I believe |
| 15:13.41 | markos_ | hm, both my systems are nvidia -which also sucks as nouveau works only for 2d) |
| 15:13.54 | markos_ | nv34 tbe |
| 15:14.02 | saptech | mine 2d only |
| 15:14.16 | markos_ | yeah same |
| 15:14.51 | markos_ | so I'm curious why it felt slower in jessie, in general performance seems better for me with jessie |
| 15:15.18 | markos_ | though, iceweasel has become worse in general in the recent months, even on x86 |
| 15:15.20 | saptech | I didn't understand why things got worse upgrading to jesse, I think sound didn't work out the box either. with jessie, but video/audio work good out the box with wheezy |
| 15:16.03 | markos_ | I guess it all has to do with how many people test and develop on powerpc still |
| 15:16.09 | markos_ | the number is constantly dwindling |
| 15:17.14 | saptech | right |
| 15:17.39 | saptech | i'm okay with wheezy but some things may not work good for the grandkids when they come visiting |
| 15:17.50 | saptech | have you tried upgrading to Sid? |
| 15:18.02 | markos_ | not on a live system :) |
| 15:18.22 | markos_ | for my kids I also have wheezy, they're fine with gcompris and some other stuff (they're still young) |
| 15:18.26 | saptech | my main box, an old HP dual core with 2gb of ram, had the usb ports died |
| 15:18.56 | saptech | i couldn't use the usb mouse & keyboard anymore |
| 15:19.14 | markos_ | if it's an old system maybe ps/2 would be available |
| 15:19.40 | markos_ | and you could use the same kbd/mouse with an adapter |
| 15:19.44 | saptech | yea I have a ps/2 mouse but no keyboard, I'm going to have to find one |
| 15:20.00 | saptech | the system have ps/2 ports |
| 15:20.29 | markos_ | I have tons of usb->ps/2 adapters, they were usually in every kbd/mouse I bought |
| 15:20.42 | markos_ | never even used them |
| 15:21.21 | markos_ | well ok I exaggerate, not tons, but definitely more than 2 in the next drawer:) |
| 15:21.41 | saptech | lol |
| 15:22.00 | markos_ | I suspect you could easily get them for very cheap nowadays |
| 15:22.17 | saptech | I did have a couple of KB & Mice but gave some of that stuff away last year |
| 15:22.29 | saptech | i found a mouse but no kb |
| 15:23.23 | markos_ | you don't need a new kbd/mouse, just get such an adapter and use the ones you have, just found it on ebay for $1 |
| 15:23.48 | markos_ | eg http://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-USB-Female-to-PS2-Male-Converter-Plug-Connector-Adapter-for-Keyboard-Mouse-/371157487620?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566ab5d004 |
| 16:43.14 | saptech | markos_ yea I'll do that or find it at the goodwill or such |
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| 21:56.31 | raleeha | hi |
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| 22:29.29 | parakeet | hi guys, i have a powerbook g4 with jessie. i was following ppcludite's blog to use old kernel to get sound working and then do video=radeon-1280x768-32@60 to get back to 32 bit color but video play back is very choppy as was said in the blog |
| 22:29.37 | parakeet | any experience on this? |
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