| 00:08.30 | donofrio | too cool....learning more each day |
| 00:50.54 | donofrio | bikerr: tryin "debian-testing-powerpc-DVD-1.iso 2016-02-01 20:17 3.5G " in a few just to see.... |
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| 01:13.54 | donofrio | well that didn't even boot....oh well |
| 01:14.05 | donofrio | I mean it did just did't start the kernel |
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| 02:20.22 | bikerr | donofrio, you held c while booting ? |
| 02:29.02 | donofrio | yah... |
| 02:34.48 | bikerr | well, if you got debian 8 installed, just add testing to /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 04:45.40 | bikerr | aah |
| 04:45.52 | bikerr | yaboot 1.3.16-4 is broken |
| 04:46.01 | bikerr | which i just discovered ! |
| 04:46.12 | bikerr | and thankfully was tipped off to just now |
| 04:46.35 | bikerr | or i'd probably have screwed up my partition table trying to mend this |
| 04:47.44 | bikerr | that might be why it doesnt boot donofrio |
| 05:31.34 | bikerr | phew, false alarm, apparently was some unformatted partitions causing issues |
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| 13:19.30 | donofrio | lol |
| 13:20.05 | donofrio | my debian 8 build finished sometime last night, I have X up but just I-beam no desktop ;( I mean it moves around too if that helps you help me ;) |
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| 15:16.52 | donofrio__atwork | mornin |
| 15:16.58 | donofrio__atwork | o.0 |
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| 15:53.50 | mns | donofrio: what desktop do you have instaled ? |
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| 16:11.23 | donofrio__atwork | debian 8 |
| 16:11.36 | donofrio__atwork | powerbook g4 |
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| 19:34.35 | donofrio | ok back home time to try to get my debian 8 ppc xorg/x11 to work.... ;) |
| 19:35.25 | MrBIOS | donofrio: does it segfault for you on start as well? |
| 19:35.31 | MrBIOS | if so, which hardware? |
| 19:37.40 | donofrio | no it's up just not doing more than "moving mouse" nothing more dispalyed |
| 19:37.49 | donofrio | so x is up but ..... |
| 19:41.01 | donofrio | lightdm is all that is running, but no dialogs or anything |
| 19:41.08 | bikerr | how strange |
| 19:41.28 | donofrio | I've not done anything but netinstall with xfce |
| 19:41.34 | donofrio | fwiw |
| 19:41.39 | donofrio | it's a powerbook g4 |
| 19:41.58 | bikerr | what model? 5.6 or 5.9 or something , do you know? |
| 19:42.21 | donofrio | humm....dunno dmesg tell me? |
| 19:42.26 | bikerr | i had to grab the 8.3.0 iso yesterday and rescue my install . |
| 19:42.52 | bikerr | uuh, do you know how many ghz it is, the size of the display and the gpu |
| 19:43.08 | bikerr | then if it's ddr2 its the 5.9 one if it's 15" |
| 19:43.26 | bikerr | if not its the 5,6 , if its the 15" |
| 19:44.19 | bikerr | err, im mistaken, the 5,9 is the 17" |
| 19:45.48 | donofrio | does this help - http://apaste.info/Eom |
| 19:46.19 | bikerr | aah , its 5.8 if its 15" and ddr2 with ati gpu and 1.66 ghz, 5,6 if its 15" with ddr and ati gpu at 1.66 ghz< |
| 19:46.58 | donofrio | 667mhz cpu fwiw |
| 19:47.01 | bikerr | RV100/M6 |
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| 19:47.40 | bikerr | thats radeon 9000 or something + |
| 19:48.06 | bikerr | or rage 128!? |
| 19:48.24 | donofrio | yah battery is out so I'll read the serial number |
| 19:48.36 | bikerr | ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 :S |
| 19:49.15 | bikerr | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_7000 |
| 19:49.23 | bikerr | there's an xorg example |
| 19:49.47 | bikerr | but i'd comment out the agp mode, it might be agp 2 |
| 19:50.01 | donofrio | it's apple model is M8407 |
| 19:50.35 | bikerr | http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/specs/powerbook_g4_667.html |
| 19:55.45 | bikerr | donofrio, dont know, but could be the vram, could you try getting the lxde dekstop? |
| 19:55.49 | bikerr | desktop even |
| 19:56.07 | bikerr | 16 megs of gpu memory |
| 20:04.33 | donofrio | I'm just trying to use hardware that I got, doing disto, it's rebooting now....well see how it fairs |
| 20:14.12 | donofrio | after disto upgrade no x displayed now - http://apaste.info/ElP |
| 20:14.22 | donofrio | at least I have ssh ;) |
| 20:14.57 | donofrio | these doesn't sound good... ;( [drm:drm_calc_timestamping_constants] *ERROR* crtc 14: Can't calculate constants, dotclock = 0! |
| 20:15.42 | donofrio | this is why my video not working.... what .deb package provides firmware? radeon 0000:00:10.0: firmware: failed to load radeon/R100_cp.bin (-2) |
| 20:16.07 | donofrio | ;( radeon 0000:00:10.0: Invalid ROM contents |
| 20:16.23 | bikerr | firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 20:16.54 | donofrio | full dmesg dump fwiw http://apaste.info/EYy |
| 20:17.01 | donofrio | kI'll apt-get it now... |
| 20:17.08 | bikerr | you need to add non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib |
| 20:17.15 | bikerr | like that |
| 20:17.24 | donofrio | oh ok tnx |
| 20:27.37 | donofrio | this one reads better (http://apaste.info/3Xo - you can see the firmware loads this time) but still no desktop ;( |
| 20:30.43 | donofrio | radeon 0000:00:10.0: Invalid ROM contents & [drm:radeon_get_bios] *ERROR* Unable to locate a BIOS ROM (guessing this is my issue?) |
| 20:32.27 | bikerr | nah thats common, been around for ages, doesnt matter |
| 20:32.35 | donofrio | k kewl |
| 20:32.39 | donofrio | what do I check next.... |
| 20:32.48 | donofrio | this is a great channel fwiw |
| 20:33.02 | bikerr | try setting up an xorg with the right address to the card, use lspci to figure that out |
| 20:34.20 | donofrio | humm what dir? tried to tab complete from root /etc/x11 but no x11 directory only xdg, xfce4, xml ?? |
| 20:36.09 | bikerr | X11 |
| 20:36.13 | bikerr | big x |
| 20:36.43 | bikerr | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_7000 this one ought work |
| 20:37.35 | bikerr | add " BusID "PCI:0:16:0" under the driver radeon entry, though your bus id will vary |
| 20:38.24 | bikerr | hum, strange, lspci says 0000:00:10.0 here |
| 20:38.33 | bikerr | i've got that line edited out tho |
| 20:43.45 | donofrio | yah I got the new range just looking for the file... |
| 20:44.37 | donofrio | my /etc directory dump http://apaste.info/PxQ |
| 20:45.03 | bikerr | i dont much like this entry tho [drm:drm_calc_timestamping_constants] *ERROR* crtc 14: Can't calculate constants, dotclock = 0! |
| 20:45.06 | donofrio | caps yah that is my issue #facepalm |
| 20:45.32 | bikerr | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.47 | bikerr | just create a new xorg.conf file in that directory and dump the thinkpad stuff in |
| 20:46.22 | donofrio | no xorg (thought we didn't make these anymore?) http://apaste.info/OL2 ok I'll just grab that linked xorg conf |
| 20:48.18 | bikerr | some default configs are in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ these days |
| 20:49.15 | donofrio | so this is all I need in xorg.conf? http://apaste.info/FKl |
| 20:51.24 | bikerr | i'd say thats a good start |
| 20:51.58 | bikerr | http://pastebin.com/v4X3H28D posted mine yesterday, tho that's for a ati 9600 |
| 20:52.06 | bikerr | or 9700 or whatever is in this pup |
| 20:52.16 | donofrio | lightdm log http://apaste.info/iIo |
| 20:52.51 | bikerr | can you post your /var/log/Xorg log afterwards? |
| 20:53.07 | donofrio | sure thing |
| 20:53.09 | bikerr | if all this fails now that is |
| 20:54.42 | bikerr | easier to work out if you invoke startx directly from a shell ( with lightdm stopped ) gives you a more verbose output right there and then which might be revealiong |
| 20:56.47 | donofrio | i put your pastebin xorg in place and restarted here is the most recent xorg log http://apaste.info/Lfr |
| 21:03.50 | donofrio | oh and I cannot see anything on any tty's fwiw |
| 21:03.55 | donofrio | ssh only access |
| 21:16.18 | donofrio | no EE's so it should be workin.... |
| 21:21.47 | donofrio | this is a good sign (you'd think) "sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:10.0-drm-card0-card0\x2dLVDS\x2d1-radeon_bl0.device loaded active plugged /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0/drm/card0/card0-LVDS-1/radeon_bl0" |
| 22:03.59 | donofrio | anything I can type to give info that gets lightdm/x11 working....or at least tty text visible.... |
| 22:14.41 | bikerr | donofrio, ctrl+alt+f1(2-3-4-5??) |
| 22:15.16 | donofrio | ya nothin....i mean they seen to switch but nothing visable....just a flash of the lcd scrren per ttyp |
| 22:15.25 | bikerr | donofrio, that config is for newer cards, i think your card must use the xxa instead of exa |
| 22:15.58 | bikerr | huh, no erros in the xorg i can spot |
| 22:16.58 | bikerr | hmm, does the [drm:drm_calc_timestamping_constants] *ERROR* persist ? |
| 22:17.01 | bikerr | in dmesg? |
| 22:17.15 | donofrio | yah I dunno.... |
| 22:17.44 | donofrio | I can type and apaste what you need....its great that your helping this issue has been money on my back for a few years lol |
| 22:20.04 | bikerr | have a few years experience on ppc so np, info and sw has gotten harder to get working tru the years tho, it's like linux on x86 in the 90's all over again. and nailing down one bug somewhere likely solves other issues as well |
| 22:21.06 | donofrio | amen to that logic, I used to spend days and weeks on quad head xorg files....don't miss them times lol |
| 22:21.39 | bikerr | hehe, thought we were past that as well, till i gathered what state everything is in on non x86 |
| 22:22.33 | bikerr | good experience to have tho, in 2010 i managed to get a proper desktop running on a 1ghz android huawei using xorg due to the years of fiddling and persistence , there werent any linuxdeploy's back then |
| 22:22.33 | donofrio | does this matter when I typed systemctl I seen "â systemd-modules-load.service loaded failed failed Load Kernel Modules" |
| 22:23.01 | bikerr | wtf :D |
| 22:23.30 | bikerr | systemd is ... nasty ... it'll be the demise of the linux at one point, weakest link |
| 22:23.46 | bikerr | no one component should have that much power |
| 22:24.05 | donofrio | agreed.....rebootin after chnagin gthat XXA stuff |
| 22:24.27 | donofrio | only takes two min not bad for 667 mhz system |
| 22:24.49 | donofrio | somethin failed to start....gotta ssh |
| 22:24.54 | bikerr | you might want to move /etc/init.d/lightdm out of the way for now, so you can use startx and not have it crash on startup annoyingly |
| 22:27.49 | donofrio | huge full message output fwiw http://apaste.info/0Gb |
| 22:28.28 | donofrio | doens't show that erro I seen on boot...weird |
| 22:29.13 | donofrio | ok how do disable lightdm starting (for now) |
| 22:29.51 | bikerr | there is probably a better way, but i just move the init script from /etc/init.d/lightdm somewhere to /root for instance |
| 22:30.03 | donofrio | kewl that works for now... |
| 22:30.42 | donofrio | done rebootin |
| 22:32.32 | donofrio | tty's still not usable..... |
| 22:32.45 | bikerr | thats not good :S |
| 22:32.49 | donofrio | usr/sbin/lightdm |
| 22:32.49 | donofrio | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.55 | donofrio | why'd this start |
| 22:32.57 | bikerr | just use startx |
| 22:32.59 | donofrio | weird |
| 22:33.33 | bikerr | what i think you need to do then is edit /etc/yaboot.conf |
| 22:33.51 | donofrio | ok |
| 22:34.06 | donofrio | pico'ed and its open |
| 22:34.10 | bikerr | http://apaste.info/oJj have a look at that |
| 22:34.20 | bikerr | thats the one i'm using now |
| 22:34.45 | bikerr | note the .old . thats a good backup to have a working working WORKING setup at |
| 22:35.17 | bikerr | try adding this append="video=offb:off video=radeonfb:off radeon.agpmode=-1" . save the file, and run ybin when you'r done |
| 22:35.22 | donofrio | whta'a I gotta run to get yaboot changes to stick? |
| 22:35.33 | bikerr | ybin |
| 22:35.49 | donofrio | k done rebootin |
| 22:35.51 | bikerr | that will turn off all displays until radeondrmfb is up |
| 22:40.01 | donofrio | no difference.... ;( |
| 22:43.17 | bikerr | ok, did you change EXA back to XXA? in xorg? |
| 22:43.27 | bikerr | or is the mouse still there but nothing happening ? |
| 22:43.36 | donofrio | yep |
| 22:43.44 | donofrio | no mouse no screen on console |
| 22:43.49 | donofrio | ssh still working |
| 22:43.58 | bikerr | it's a live then at least |
| 22:44.30 | bikerr | try running tasksel from ssh, and select lxde |
| 22:44.40 | bikerr | bloody odd tho, cant imagine what would fail ' |
| 22:44.43 | donofrio | yah sorta... ;) wish tty's worked, I mean they did before I dist-updated two hours ago |
| 22:45.03 | bikerr | you up to testing then? or still stable `? |
| 22:45.21 | donofrio | I could do testing but it took 6 hours to install stable... ;) |
| 22:45.31 | bikerr | haha, dont do that hen :D |
| 22:45.54 | bikerr | and besides, with 512 ram and 16 mb vram, you ought just go LXDE anyway |
| 22:45.58 | bikerr | it's tonnes lighter |
| 22:46.04 | donofrio | smaller than xfce? |
| 22:46.06 | bikerr | yep |
| 22:46.15 | donofrio | humm.... |
| 22:46.52 | bikerr | try that from taskel |
| 22:46.54 | bikerr | sel* |
| 22:46.59 | bikerr | i'll brb |
| 22:48.21 | donofrio | k |
| 22:51.47 | donofrio | init 3 didn't bring back text....weird |