| 01:26.03 | donofrio | rebuild debian8 with lmde fresh install x is up and only mouse i beam movable |
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| 01:53.16 | donofrio | didn't take six hours to rebuild only three ;) |
| 02:22.41 | bikerr | humm, what happens if you run lxsession in ssh ? |
| 02:22.45 | bikerr | donofrio * |
| 02:23.08 | bikerr | there's a bug on the trackpad for 4.5.0... |
| 02:23.27 | bikerr | no input is registered :S wonder if its evdev related changes |
| 02:27.16 | donofrio | I'm here |
| 02:53.31 | donofrio | I'll try now, sorry got distracted by family ;) |
| 02:54.40 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/okp |
| 02:55.07 | donofrio | I can also do that on the console cause I can see it right now, if I do dist-upgrade it will go away |
| 02:57.33 | donofrio | same on tty1 ;) |
| 03:13.39 | bikerr | np, im watching Black Sails on hbo while doing all sorts of other stuff, thankfully i have time to do all this as im home with leave for a while = ) |
| 03:15.44 | bikerr | donofrio, thats with x started? |
| 03:16.05 | bikerr | telling that, no desktop set .. . hm, hang on |
| 03:16.26 | bikerr | fuck, how did one set defaults .. |
| 03:17.45 | bikerr | gaawd , cant remember a command , this may take a while :D |
| 03:18.24 | donofrio | yah x is running |
| 03:18.26 | donofrio | I can kill it |
| 03:19.11 | donofrio | it's cool I'm just smiling cause someone is helpin, you know work, work, work, then family when I figure I got me time, got jazz playin on mixrad.io and all is well |
| 03:20.13 | bikerr | aah , yes, some googling ofc, update-alternatives is a nice command |
| 03:20.42 | bikerr | update-alternatives --get-selections |
| 03:21.06 | bikerr | here it says x-window-manager auto /usr/bin/xfwm4 - i run xfce4 |
| 03:21.14 | bikerr | should say lxsession for lxde |
| 03:22.03 | donofrio | I installed only for lxde but don't see it like you suggested - http://apaste.info/2RZ |
| 03:22.20 | donofrio | I mean I see lxterminal and such |
| 03:22.23 | donofrio | fwiw |
| 03:22.46 | donofrio | #this I bet - x-session-manager auto /usr/bin/startlxde |
| 03:22.54 | donofrio | needs to be set to stop? |
| 03:24.09 | donofrio | how to set to manual state? |
| 03:27.25 | bikerr | hm, thats correct |
| 03:34.42 | donofrio | how do I change the state of that option? |
| 03:36.58 | bikerr | --set-selection |
| 03:37.03 | donofrio | k |
| 03:38.20 | donofrio | not "update-alternatives --config x-session-manager" ? |
| 03:38.35 | bikerr | might be , been a while |
| 03:38.45 | donofrio | k no biggie jusst wondered |
| 03:38.57 | donofrio | I've not used this command much more than for webbrowser userage |
| 03:39.04 | bikerr | ah correct, -- config |
| 03:39.16 | donofrio | kewl, tnx |
| 03:39.21 | bikerr | been years , back when messing about with jre and jdk |
| 03:39.27 | donofrio | ;) |
| 03:39.54 | bikerr | i've started having to leave small text files around so i can "remember" |
| 03:40.16 | donofrio | guessing set it to #1 http://apaste.info/f29 |
| 03:40.48 | donofrio | I use "drafts" like they are going outta style (saving bookmarks or othern 'note' like thoughts as gmail drafts ;) |
| 03:40.56 | bikerr | yep, could try openbox and see if anything happens ? |
| 03:41.25 | bikerr | thats a good use ! |
| 03:41.27 | donofrio | rebootin |
| 03:41.42 | bikerr | sec , smoke |
| 03:42.01 | donofrio | #itallgood #takeurtime #thankyouforbeingaround |
| 03:43.41 | donofrio | same i-beam, I gotta install that firmware nonfree again |
| 03:47.05 | bikerr | you can just run startx after changing the defaults btw, or xorg |
| 03:47.29 | bikerr | series of scripts and values the lot of that |
| 03:48.34 | bikerr | hrmm, im at a loss , but if you can move the mouse, x is running , but for some reason it's failing to display or load the WM |
| 03:49.18 | bikerr | you can try disabling everything accel in xorg |
| 03:49.28 | bikerr | i did that for a while getting around the freeze issue |
| 03:49.53 | bikerr | Option "RenderAccel" "false" |
| 03:50.22 | bikerr | think there are more options |
| 03:51.14 | bikerr | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver the reverse of anything that seems beneficial , basicallt |
| 03:51.38 | bikerr | bah, thought that had more options in it |
| 03:52.38 | bikerr | heres something to be explored http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver |
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| 03:54.58 | bikerr | Option "DRI" "false" |
| 03:55.16 | donofrio | wow it seems append="video=offb:off video=radeonfb:off radeon.agpmode=-1" causes my tty's and no video or something , I did the ybin and apt-get install firmwarew and not it's doing the not displaying anything again... |
| 03:55.36 | donofrio | yah ok I'll try that disable |
| 03:58.07 | bikerr | hrm, why isnt radeondrmfb working then .. |
| 03:59.54 | bikerr | didnt your dmesg say radeondrmfb was loaded.. ?! |
| 04:00.44 | donofrio | I dunno I've rebuilt sence we last talked this time did as you asked and just did the lxde thing |
| 04:04.20 | bikerr | strange, you can omit the offb:off thing then |
| 04:04.23 | donofrio | are you west coast cause don't wanna keep you up, I removed the append and video working again |
| 04:04.43 | bikerr | only thing that's important is to keep the radeon as unused as possible |
| 04:18.19 | donofrio | if I do this by itself i'm ok for tty's for if I add others I do not get tty0 bootup text and no x11 reguardless I get no x |
| 04:19.52 | bikerr | removing "video=offb:off " ought do |
| 04:20.15 | bikerr | god damnit, just saw that the options i were reading were for the ati not radeon |
| 04:27.23 | bikerr | htmf, 815 fps in glxgears is the max i can get |
| 04:33.15 | donofrio | I'm not getting that but it feels like a tomorrow thing.... |
| 04:36.40 | bikerr | hehe, likewise, going to have a sit down and look at the mesa issues again |
| 04:37.32 | donofrio | as I said and I'll say again thank you for being here I really do love getting these older systems back to as current as I can... |
| 04:37.34 | donofrio | nite |
| 04:37.36 | bikerr | or maybe not, im dead out of space :S |
| 04:37.39 | bikerr | g'nite |
| 04:37.53 | bikerr | np, its all a learning experience ; ) |
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| 04:38.12 | bikerr | everything is tweaked and coded for x86... hence were in a sorry state |
| 04:39.56 | bikerr | shame, that's not the way its "supposed to be" , all these things should be portable and work , of course the bugs need to be found and the offending code identified .. but that's hard when it's years back and it takes ages compiling |
| 04:49.49 | jnavarro | thinks old PowerPC Macs have mojo |
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| 11:16.23 | donofrio | jnavarro: agreed ;) |
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| 12:52.02 | donofrio | off to work will be back in 8 hours (got class all day, ugh mandatories...) |
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| 22:17.38 | donofrio | hey, evening all..... |
| 22:20.38 | bikerr | aloha |
| 22:21.05 | donofrio | how ya doing this evening |
| 22:21.32 | donofrio | powering powerbook up ;) |
| 22:22.04 | bikerr | i've been doing Mesa all day |
| 22:22.21 | donofrio | really......sooooo cool - what'cha know.... |
| 22:22.24 | bikerr | found i had missed a few lines manually applying a patch a few moons back :S |
| 22:22.41 | bikerr | might account for why it was so unstable |
| 22:22.46 | donofrio | so I gotta apply a DIFF or .deb? |
| 22:23.06 | bikerr | got it on github and just compiled the deb actually |
| 22:23.22 | donofrio | sweeet let me know when you need a "tester" |
| 22:23.23 | donofrio | ;) |
| 22:23.37 | bikerr | https://github.com/threader/mesa-ppc-debian - patch has been out for a while, need to test it on myself first :D |
| 22:23.48 | bikerr | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2013-December/050218.html |
| 22:24.13 | bikerr | got it applied to the mesa in testing too, but going to test 10.6.3 first |
| 22:24.18 | bikerr | as i know what it did last time |
| 22:24.42 | bikerr | only applies to the r300 driver this though, it will need to be adjusted for r600 and r200 |
| 22:24.53 | bikerr | think r600 only struggles with the texture |
| 22:25.06 | bikerr | so might get away with the part in r300_texture.c |
| 22:25.35 | bikerr | if it works i'll up the mesa from testing with the patch afterwards |
| 22:25.54 | bikerr | i usually keep one original and one modified source, but apparently failed to do so back then |
| 22:34.01 | donofrio | ok I'll try it |
| 22:36.00 | bikerr | donofrio, i think you're using r100 |
| 22:36.15 | bikerr | err. r200, so the patch will need to be adjusted if accel is not working there |
| 22:39.13 | donofrio | you got a deb or should I just use diff |
| 22:39.42 | bikerr | hang on, let me read up on the driver first |
| 22:39.51 | bikerr | i've only adjusted for r300 |
| 22:40.07 | bikerr | which is radeon 9000 and up if not 9200 and up |
| 22:40.09 | donofrio | ok I'm holdin....looking for .deb if you feel like it ;) |
| 22:40.49 | bikerr | https://wiki.freedesktop.org/xorg/RadeonFeature/ |
| 22:41.15 | bikerr | woaw, antiquated |
| 22:42.22 | bikerr | https://wiki.freedesktop.org/xorg/RadeonFeature/#index5h2 |
| 22:45.50 | bikerr | of throws up |
| 22:45.56 | bikerr | when i prepare the disks.. |
| 22:46.03 | bikerr | think it tries searches them |
| 22:46.51 | donofrio | I agree that this work is the chosen ones - should be tested moar on multiple arches but no-one does....so glad your here |
| 22:47.34 | bikerr | wops wrong channel |
| 22:48.15 | bikerr | yaboot throws up when i prep the disks for netbsd |
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| 23:05.23 | bikerr | good news is it seems to be working, colours are correct , loads ,etc |
| 23:14.59 | bikerr | oofh, osx 10.3.9 which i have in kvm isnt too happy though, its slower then i can remember . booting and loading ... |
| 23:15.09 | bikerr | but all is well, |