| 00:05.09 | donofrio | so this part? Mesa 3D driver (radeon, r200, r300g, r600g, radeonsi)? |
| 00:07.27 | donofrio | what do I apt-get ;) |
| 00:27.05 | bikerr | ughm, its i need to test mesa 11.1.1-2 with this patch, cannot install anything worthwhile with this old 10.6 on testing .. . |
| 00:27.38 | bikerr | i'm not a debian dev either, and there is probably a bloody good reason why this patch is not in the mesa already |
| 00:27.51 | bikerr | might break everything else for everyone else for all i know |
| 00:29.13 | bikerr | uh, might not be 11.1 but thats what everything depends on now |
| 00:32.08 | donofrio | havn;t done much with mesa |
| 00:32.58 | donofrio | let me know what deb's I gotta install and I'll give it a try even 11.1.1-2 ... |
| 00:34.39 | bikerr | it'll take a while to build, but so far 10.6.3 has been stable |
| 00:35.04 | bikerr | so im optimistic |
| 00:35.44 | donofrio | ok just let me know what to type and I'll test whwatever version ;) lol, been a long day, nice to spend some time unwinding |
| 00:38.18 | bikerr | starting to wonder actually if i could send you 10.6.3. the mesa in stable is older i think. later, if its not too complicated , i'll apply the patch to the other driver which needs a patch for colours, depends on the difference really, |
| 00:38.51 | bikerr | aah, stable is on 10.3 |
| 00:38.53 | donofrio | sure ya that is fine....Im game |
| 00:39.21 | bikerr | would atleast identify if thats the issue |
| 00:44.03 | bikerr | oofh i could probably have halved this in size, uplading 70 megs.. the packages needed are probably more like 30... included the full output from dpkg-buildpackage , has debug packages too |
| 00:44.38 | bikerr | stuffed a little readme file in there with the content: dpkg -i libegl1-mesa_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb libegl1-mesa-drivers_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb libgl1-mesa-dri_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb libgl1-mesa-glx_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb mesa-vdpau-drivers_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb libglapi-mesa_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb |
| 00:44.54 | bikerr | hm, could have dropped egl too |
| 00:45.02 | donofrio | k |
| 00:46.15 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/ZiF ;( |
| 00:46.20 | bikerr | not quite correct i see, fuck, i took the wrong command :D |
| 00:47.35 | bikerr | dpkg -i libgl1-mesa-dri_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb libgl1-mesa-glx_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb libglapi-mesa_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb libosmesa6_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb mesa-vdpau-drivers_10.6.3-1_powerpc.deb |
| 00:47.59 | bikerr | https://www.sendspace.com/file/p3cel3 |
| 00:48.02 | bikerr | there you go |
| 00:48.07 | donofrio | oh cool tnx |
| 00:48.27 | bikerr | once installed you can run glxinfo | grep "OpenGL Version" |
| 00:48.56 | bikerr | if that doesnt say 10.6.3 you missed a package |
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| 00:55.20 | donofrio | installing now |
| 00:55.57 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/X2j |
| 00:59.36 | bikerr | humm, if you add strech ( http://apaste.info/H39 replace with your closest mirror ofc, ) and do apt-get update && aptitude -f install it |
| 00:59.40 | bikerr | should work |
| 01:00.11 | bikerr | comment it out afterwards so you dont accidentally upgrade everything to testing |
| 01:00.24 | donofrio | k |
| 01:01.13 | bikerr | yeah fuck , used gcc-5 of course, should have used gcc-4.9 compiling that ... |
| 01:01.20 | bikerr | that would have made it compatible |
| 01:01.49 | donofrio | should I hold off? |
| 01:02.08 | bikerr | nah, just an observation on my part =) |
| 01:02.13 | donofrio | k |
| 01:02.52 | donofrio | what's stretch while it's 37% doing apt-get update |
| 01:03.27 | donofrio | whoa aptitude just started (it's all blue lol) |
| 01:03.28 | bikerr | name of the next distro |
| 01:03.30 | donofrio | loading cahce |
| 01:03.41 | donofrio | resolving depenadncies |
| 01:04.28 | donofrio | what do i do in aptitude? |
| 01:05.05 | bikerr | oh, you were supposed to run aptitude -f install |
| 01:05.37 | bikerr | it works same as apt basically, but lets you choose what to do |
| 01:05.43 | bikerr | might get away with apt-get -f install too |
| 01:05.52 | bikerr | but that might suggest removing mesa |
| 01:06.01 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/ZJZ |
| 01:06.03 | donofrio | oh ok |
| 01:06.05 | donofrio | lol |
| 01:07.41 | donofrio | uh what's this mean? http://apaste.info/OSM |
| 01:09.03 | bikerr | select no :D |
| 01:09.07 | bikerr | n |
| 01:09.34 | bikerr | if it suggests something like that again, just abort and try apt-get -f install |
| 01:09.49 | bikerr | aptitude might try and update or remove you'r entire system |
| 01:10.53 | donofrio | i quit - was in loop "Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies." |
| 01:10.53 | bikerr | hm, might need to dpkg install that libegl1-mesa-drivers too if it keeps complaining |
| 01:11.02 | bikerr | yeah, try apt-get -f install instead |
| 01:11.14 | bikerr | it might be sane and just install gcc-5 |
| 01:11.18 | donofrio | correcting dependancies |
| 01:11.38 | donofrio | ;) http://apaste.info/po1 |
| 01:12.13 | bikerr | uuhm , mmh, ookaaya ? :D |
| 01:12.20 | bikerr | no |
| 01:12.27 | bikerr | ok |
| 01:12.27 | donofrio | ok holding off |
| 01:12.28 | bikerr | hm |
| 01:12.34 | donofrio | almost hit yes |
| 01:12.34 | bikerr | yeah thats too massive |
| 01:12.44 | bikerr | and it will try and update mesa and everything |
| 01:12.47 | donofrio | bailed |
| 01:12.49 | bikerr | way beyond stable |
| 01:13.28 | bikerr | try apt-get install libstdc++6 |
| 01:14.30 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/FlU |
| 01:16.11 | bikerr | baah, out of interest what does glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version" say atm? |
| 01:16.36 | donofrio | glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-randr.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 01:16.54 | bikerr | mmh |
| 01:19.05 | bikerr | comment out testing from /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx mesa-vdpau-drivers libosmesa6 |
| 01:19.13 | bikerr | that should put everything back the way it ought be |
| 01:19.24 | donofrio | i doin that now |
| 01:19.47 | donofrio | do another apt-get update? |
| 01:19.53 | bikerr | ye |
| 01:19.58 | donofrio | after comment stretch? |
| 01:20.02 | bikerr | yep |
| 01:20.03 | donofrio | k |
| 01:20.33 | bikerr | i will need to rebuild with gcc-4.9 somehow |
| 01:21.02 | donofrio | my bad or just 'cause' |
| 01:21.24 | bikerr | to be compatible with stable, which is the only place this package is any use = ) |
| 01:22.05 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/zJ3 |
| 01:22.44 | bikerr | ok, what does aptitude -f install say ? |
| 01:24.02 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/GLr |
| 01:24.47 | bikerr | select no |
| 01:24.52 | donofrio | agreed ;) |
| 01:24.58 | bikerr | it should come up with the choice to degrade now |
| 01:25.04 | bikerr | downgrade * |
| 01:25.28 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/cC8 |
| 01:25.33 | donofrio | holdin |
| 01:25.36 | donofrio | on your call |
| 01:26.02 | bikerr | select no again, it wants to keep 10.6.3 |
| 01:26.32 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/4Et |
| 01:27.27 | bikerr | select no until it comes up with downgrading mesa , and not removing xorg and the desktop, that'll take ages |
| 01:28.15 | bikerr | though grabbing libgl1-mesa-swx11 might be a good idea |
| 01:28.21 | donofrio | seems better ? http://apaste.info/K01 |
| 01:28.23 | bikerr | that will cause it to get the other mesa packages i thin |
| 01:28.34 | bikerr | yep! |
| 01:28.38 | bikerr | eeh |
| 01:28.39 | bikerr | wait |
| 01:28.40 | donofrio | k I'll say yes now |
| 01:28.40 | bikerr | hang on |
| 01:28.42 | donofrio | or not |
| 01:28.44 | donofrio | lol |
| 01:28.46 | bikerr | why is it saying 11.1.1 |
| 01:28.54 | bikerr | aah you got backports |
| 01:28.56 | donofrio | I dunno o.0 |
| 01:29.08 | bikerr | ok , go for that |
| 01:29.16 | bikerr | might by some miracle work |
| 01:29.33 | bikerr | if you cancelled just retrace your steps :> |
| 01:29.38 | donofrio | k said yes |
| 01:30.15 | bikerr | try this again afterwards wither with aptitude or apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx mesa-vdpau-drivers libosmesa6 |
| 01:30.36 | bikerr | but atleast your out of package conflict |
| 01:30.53 | bikerr | where the hell did backports come from then ? :D |
| 01:31.07 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/JJy |
| 01:31.20 | bikerr | thats might be a good (or bad, make it worse ) idea actually |
| 01:32.29 | bikerr | can try startx now, and if that failes aptitude or apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx mesa-vdpau-drivers libosmesa6 , try to get them all the same version or |
| 01:33.00 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/nxj |
| 01:33.28 | bikerr | excellnt |
| 01:35.22 | donofrio | startx didn't go so I did http://apaste.info/8Ju |
| 01:36.02 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/GUj |
| 01:37.05 | bikerr | try deleting/moving away /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 01:37.13 | bikerr | let it default to something |
| 01:37.28 | donofrio | mv'ing |
| 01:37.38 | bikerr | or cut it down to a bare minimum, which is just driver "radeon" basically |
| 01:38.12 | bikerr | ah remembered too now, apt-get -t stable will get the packages from there |
| 01:38.52 | bikerr | so you can for instance do apt-get -t jessie-backports xorg xorg-driver-radeon or what its called if this now fails |
| 01:39.33 | donofrio | X is up! |
| 01:39.43 | bikerr | it worked worked?! |
| 01:39.54 | donofrio | setting yaboot opts now and rebootin |
| 01:40.08 | bikerr | whee! |
| 01:40.17 | bikerr | good stuff! |
| 01:41.11 | bikerr | now the big question is what does vblank_mode=0 glxgears say :D |
| 01:41.29 | bikerr | the defacto standard NIST benchmark of all benchmarks |
| 01:42.45 | bikerr | i'd try the thinkpad stuff and xxa , that will probably lead you to better performance then i get here, the radeon.agpmode=-1 really screwes with preformance , but at least its stable |
| 01:44.15 | donofrio | no video with them yaboot opts ;( |
| 01:44.20 | donofrio | I've of course got ssh |
| 01:53.06 | bikerr | ok, you left offb? |
| 01:53.13 | bikerr | thats the openfirmware framebuffer |
| 01:53.45 | donofrio | only running append="radeon.agpmode=-1" |
| 01:54.03 | donofrio | still now only ibeam shows up in X on bootup |
| 01:54.13 | donofrio | maybe I need to sysctr something... |
| 01:54.35 | bikerr | try getting the xorg too from backports |
| 01:55.39 | donofrio | did the "update-alternatives --config x-session-manager " and set it to maual and rebooted |
| 01:56.54 | bikerr | ok, you got a session on startx? |
| 01:58.31 | donofrio | ;( [ 63.636] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering |
| 01:58.39 | donofrio | and only the movable ibeam |
| 01:59.11 | donofrio | if I get it so x is down I can start it as root (i did before just a little ago) and got the 4 color x11 |
| 01:59.27 | donofrio | logged into lxde |
| 02:00.32 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/wFH |
| 02:03.00 | bikerr | interesting, try removing the agpmode again i guess? did you get the same beam then ? |
| 02:03.56 | donofrio | what I meant was with software accel it loaded....as root....then I logged out |
| 02:04.11 | bikerr | aah |
| 02:04.32 | bikerr | of , software on that thing must be sloooow |
| 02:05.00 | donofrio | everything is lol |
| 02:05.11 | bikerr | pains the soul here , tormented myself trough a few working like that |
| 02:05.14 | bikerr | its no way to love! |
| 02:05.17 | bikerr | live * |
| 02:05.22 | donofrio | I got two mac mini's supporting the powerbook lol |
| 02:05.45 | donofrio | waiting doe debian goodness ;) |
| 02:05.55 | bikerr | makes sense :D set up a cluster :D |
| 02:05.56 | donofrio | for I meant |
| 02:06.14 | donofrio | nah just get them setup maybe a macmini for kitchen lol |
| 02:06.14 | bikerr | run it all one 100mbps eth! |
| 02:06.23 | bikerr | buy three more g4s :D |
| 02:06.49 | donofrio | I got two g5 towers upstairs |
| 02:06.59 | bikerr | woaah , those are sweet |
| 02:07.22 | bikerr | power hungry i hear , but sweet |
| 02:07.41 | donofrio | yah they are unplugged at the moment |
| 02:07.42 | donofrio | lol |
| 02:07.56 | bikerr | hehe, meter runs just by having the cord in huh? :D |
| 02:07.58 | donofrio | so where to next or chill time? |
| 02:08.15 | bikerr | im thinking getting xorg and drivers from backports |
| 02:08.29 | bikerr | was about to go searching for em, but forgot as i closed a bunch of tabs instead |
| 02:08.33 | bikerr | im a tab horder |
| 02:08.36 | bikerr | hoarder |
| 02:09.07 | donofrio | #oneofus |
| 02:09.19 | bikerr | oh, no xorg |
| 02:10.54 | bikerr | hm, how do you feel about, no xorg? :D |
| 02:11.22 | bikerr | sweetness, 11.1.1 is done here, sec |
| 02:12.01 | donofrio | uh that is ok for a bit....i'm here to learn and leanr, would like xorg/lxde or xfce or something along with java and pepperflash just in case...oh yah and pianobar (commandline pandora) |
| 02:12.08 | donofrio | k holdin |
| 02:12.48 | bikerr | pepperflash is excellent, old days of adobe and manually trying to keep that beast alive and updated are finally gone |
| 02:13.16 | donofrio | if I can even get pepperflash for ppc #yahme ;) |
| 02:15.09 | bikerr | doubtful |
| 02:15.17 | bikerr | chrome isnt ported yet even |
| 02:15.48 | bikerr | firefox is a pain |
| 02:15.55 | bikerr | really tenfourfox needs to be ported |
| 02:16.43 | donofrio | chromium is my jam |
| 02:18.02 | bikerr | browsing i cant recommended on linux ppc at all , there is no JS jit as im aware |
| 02:18.24 | bikerr | if however , you applied tenfourfox changes on iceweasel , then maybe something usable would come out |
| 02:18.50 | donofrio | yah I've used 104fox.... so thoughts on x? |
| 02:28.03 | donofrio | would be great to get x up and kodi with accel rv200 ;) |
| 02:28.43 | bikerr | rather strange it doesnt throw any errors |
| 02:29.06 | bikerr | nothing concerning with dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon' ? |
| 02:29.07 | donofrio | i can keep looking didin't check dmesg yet |
| 02:29.09 | donofrio | lol |
| 02:29.14 | donofrio | we typed the smae thing |
| 02:29.17 | bikerr | :D |
| 02:29.27 | bikerr | did a quick google and flew by the ubuntu thing |
| 02:29.40 | bikerr | might simply be its too old |
| 02:29.45 | donofrio | http://apaste.info/dnf |
| 02:30.11 | bikerr | that looks entirely sane :S |
| 02:30.14 | bikerr | all the logs look sane |
| 02:30.17 | bikerr | wth :D |
| 02:30.20 | donofrio | i;m in no rush mind you, just would love to get it online again |
| 02:30.36 | bikerr | yeah, it's displaying all the signs of something that just need the right bit of tlc |
| 02:30.39 | donofrio | no xorg.conf fwiw |
| 02:30.57 | bikerr | a nudge in the right direction and it should work |
| 02:30.59 | bikerr | hm |
| 02:31.00 | donofrio | sooo close... :) |
| 02:31.12 | bikerr | you can try install the dbg packages of everything of course |
| 02:31.23 | bikerr | libgl-dbg etc , mesa dbg |
| 02:31.35 | donofrio | when I do full yabooot opts no video? |
| 02:31.56 | bikerr | just keep the default options since it doesnt seem to matter |
| 02:32.05 | bikerr | can safely remove the agpmode |
| 02:32.17 | bikerr | probably isnt a problem with that chip, everything else is |
| 02:32.18 | donofrio | wanna find this iso - http://kodi.tv/xbmc4xbox-update/ ;) |
| 02:34.26 | donofrio | yep still got love for xbox's lol |
| 02:41.26 | bikerr | fun times =) i cant give up commodores and amigas = ) |
| 02:42.01 | donofrio | #awesomeness |
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| 04:51.53 | bikerr | heeh, yeah, mmh, drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_agp.c _is_ likely the problem |
| 04:55.40 | bikerr | hmm https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2012-December/005986.html |
| 04:57.03 | bikerr | https://osdir.com/ml/freebsd-x11/2012-12/msg00010.html easier to read here me thinks |
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