| 04:51.13 | jnavarro | & Debian 8.3 being installed on G4 machine |
| 04:54.53 | jnavarro | had a hard time booting from USB so fixed Superdrive instead. |
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| 05:34.39 | bikerr | donofrio, you tried the xorg thing yet? |
| 05:34.56 | bikerr | we seem to have slipped in active hours :D |
| 05:35.16 | bikerr | i've been quite docile too tho |
| 05:35.37 | bikerr | jnavarro, congrats, was that nvidia or ati ? |
| 05:37.20 | jnavarro | bikerr: Hi, Thanks, actually I didn´t look while it was on Leopard, but I did looked at the CPU speed which is a 1.5GHZ PPC G4 17 inch, according to a search in Internet it has an ATI. |
| 05:38.26 | bikerr | mesa and kernel issues being hunted with spoons raised , fingers crossed we can all pull a solution out of this at long last https://www.mail-archive.com/mesa-dev%40lists.freedesktop.org/msg105276.html https://github.com/DespairFactor/bullhead/commit/650e1203c11354ba84d69ba445abc0efcfe3890a https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2012-December/005986.html https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-r128/+bug/1023975/comments/9 |
| 05:38.58 | bikerr | jnavarro, ok, nice one that. do you have any experience compiling shit ? |
| 05:39.23 | jnavarro | bikerr: Yes, basic but I have compiled some stuff. |
| 05:39.24 | bikerr | i cant remember the exact conversation we had a few days ago and how deep that went |
| 05:39.45 | bikerr | ok, then you can probably pull off an apt-get build-dep mesa |
| 05:40.09 | bikerr | and either try building this: https://github.com/threader/mesa-10.6.3-ppc-r300-debian or https://github.com/threader/mesa-11.1.1-ppc-r300-debian |
| 05:40.25 | bikerr | not sure 11.1.1 from testing will just magically work on stable |
| 05:40.56 | bikerr | it's in backports , tho, so if there are nasty nasty changes i could easily bake one |
| 05:41.30 | jnavarro | bikerr: Got it, will install building dependencies then clone either one of those |
| 05:42.22 | bikerr | i can vouch for 11.1.1 at least, found a "woops" in 10.6.3 after comparing it to 11.1.1 .. |
| 05:42.29 | bikerr | but it worked a few days ago |
| 05:43.17 | jnavarro | bikerr: Cool, I´ll go with 11.1.1 as you |
| 05:43.28 | jnavarro | bikerr: as you vouch for it :) |
| 05:44.00 | bikerr | applied the patch to 10.6.3 months ago in a not so optimistic way in a hurry , apparently, double checked it the other day and sure enough i'd forgotten stuff and managed to leave an extra ; |
| 05:44.30 | bikerr | so no wonder it crashed under load and gave magenta colours in glxgears :D |
| 05:46.22 | jnavarro | bikerr: Do you know if there is any downside on using the "non free" repositories given as a solution for the non-working WiFi? |
| 05:46.57 | bikerr | nope, its just where debian puts the non open source stuff |
| 05:47.08 | bikerr | like firmware needed for wifi and radeon et |
| 05:47.09 | bikerr | c |
| 05:47.31 | bikerr | no backside except you have to trust the vendor |
| 05:48.16 | jnavarro | bikerr: Oki dok, thanks for the info |
| 05:51.16 | bikerr | np, good luck , shout at me here if anything fails , gonna sleep for a few hours, if 11.1.1 cries for deps just adjust them down and cross fingers , you can get away with commenting out stuff in the debian/rules, personally i comment out dh_clean and the rm stuff when building, of course , it will decide to gzip the entire built sources on rebuild and create a 1.2 gig useless gzip, but building mesa takes a REALLY long time |
| 05:51.49 | jnavarro | bikerr: Sure have a good sleep, and thanks a lot for the help! |
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| 05:52.20 | bikerr | if you're really brave you add -mcpu and -mtune -maltivec etc etc etc too, specific to your cpu |
| 05:52.43 | bikerr | thanks, take care = ) |
| 05:53.49 | bikerr | i'll drop a line here on that tomorrow, gains might not even be wroth it |
| 05:54.34 | jnavarro | bikerr: Sounds good |
| 05:55.04 | bikerr | ye, good luck, and remember to run ybin after changing /etc/yaboot.conf |
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| 14:49.33 | donofrio | I'll try things today, gonna get breakfast first then it's playtime if your about... ;) |
| 15:25.19 | jnavarro | donofrio: Good morning, enjoy breakfast! |
| 15:41.53 | jnavarro | bikerr: Does the "Oh no something has gone wrong" message when issuing the command startx has to do with the issues you mentioned? |
| 15:42.07 | bikerr | moin |
| 15:42.44 | jnavarro | bikerr: Good morning |
| 15:42.58 | bikerr | whot, how wrong ?! :D |
| 15:44.24 | jnavarro | The above with only Debian desktop environment |
| 15:44.56 | jnavarro | I recall last night in my first install attempt installed xfce also and the system was always booting to xfce even if I choosed Debian desktop environment in the login screen |
| 15:45.17 | bikerr | that's probably set to the default then |
| 15:46.30 | jnavarro | bikerr: xfce desktop loaded fine, while now that I only installed the Debian desktop environment is giving me that message and asks me to logout |
| 15:48.23 | bikerr | probably acceleration issues |
| 15:48.45 | bikerr | does glxinfo | grep direct say anything positive? |
| 15:49.34 | jnavarro | Error unable to open display |
| 15:50.01 | bikerr | need to be run from an X session |
| 15:50.34 | jnavarro | Oh but I´m not even able to log in into an X session |
| 15:52.25 | bikerr | oh, not even xfce+ |
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| 15:52.44 | jnavarro | bikerr: I reinstalled the system again and did not installed xfce this time :( |
| 15:53.01 | bikerr | hum, you need to try a failsafe gnome or such |
| 15:53.30 | bikerr | the default gnome3 will try to use GL , and without a patched mesa and that radeon.agpmode=-1 it dies , either safely or hard |
| 15:55.33 | jnavarro | Tried #startx /etc/X11/Xsession failsafe |
| 15:56.23 | jnavarro | got a log file, |
| 15:56.58 | bikerr | well, if the login manager startx, you've basically got X , something else is failing |
| 15:57.28 | jnavarro | login manager did not started, it tried to but I was returned to terminal |
| 15:57.56 | jnavarro | Will read the log file tonight, and check, and maybe just install xfce and go from there. |
| 15:58.19 | jnavarro | bikerr: Thanks a lot for your support! |
| 15:58.34 | jnavarro | goes to grab breakfast |
| 15:58.42 | bikerr | no stress, i'm pretty much just repeating the steps to get everything working :D |
| 16:29.59 | donofrio | k I'm online and here - what'd I miss from my 11.1.1 attempt |
| 16:30.26 | donofrio | something about agp not workin on anything other than x86 |
| 16:36.55 | bikerr | correct, agp is disabled and running on agpmode=-1 (pci mode) only |
| 16:51.20 | bikerr | http://www.qnx.com/news/pr_4218_1.html mkay, until feb 19th to fix the error in mesa |
| 16:53.33 | donofrio | oh cool, so lets see that is yaboot and just wait three days after by birthday - cool.... |
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